payne1000

Trolls don't care if they look like idiots.
Acting like an idiot endears them to the idiots they are here to influence.

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I've heard it all now. That is the most ignorant assessment of what really happened on record. Hell, you've outdone the best demolition engineers on earth. You should share your revelations with them so they can go back to square one and rewrite the manual. Yeah, your brilliant understanding of physics will impress the hell out of them. WTF, the demolitions methods that have worked so well in the past just went out the window. Now we have Payne and Gener, Inc. to show the pros how it should be done.

emarine

@ 30 seconds in the video that's the center core you see wobbling around... there were 60 odd stories that fell after the main collapse... sill visible @ 60 seconds in the video... everything on earth falls straight down including buildings... you need another force to make it fall past its center of gravity ... you need to learn something about gravity before you spout stupid shit... same as Lego Larry professor of nothing... go back to school and learn something this time around or watch the slow motion video and see the events take place... pause the video every second past six seconds and see the truth with your own eyes... explosives travel faster than the speed of sound 343mps min ... gravity in most places on earth provides 9.7mps in air... if anything exploded you would clearly see it way before any movement of the building... no ka boom, no shock waves no explosives... many things explode but are not high explosives capable of cutting steel box tube... just because you can hear big bangs doesn't prove anything... many things explode in fires... just ask any fireman ... you guys are a bunch of paranoid jokers who don't know when you've gone too far pushing stupid shit... Lower Manhattan was being monitored by several seismographs for construction liability... not one recorded any explosions on 911... so you guys are selling Explosions that dropped two towers that produced no shock waves, flashes or vibrations like all other explosions do... even when you can clearly see the moment of failure @ 6 seconds into the video produces no shock wave and no flash at all... not enough to disturb the massive amount of smoke around both buildings ... you jokers should have gone with the alien theory like some other nuts..

Gener

You really are an idiot. The best engineers on earth have said it is not possible for buildings to fall straight down. What do you not understand about that? Take your ridiculous crap somewhere where some child might be fooled by it. You can't hear. You idiots all have the same argument. The government wouldn't do that so it didn't happen. Well they would, and they did. That is the long and the short of it. You people will not accept the truth if it is staring you in the face. That is stupidity by definition. You just keep trying, and trying, and trying, to pass off some lie as if it is the truth. Well, it isn't, and you have lost the argument, so move on. I don't want to hear your stupid crap anymore.

emarine

Your dumb ... this is as basic as it gets that doesn't require any real smarts...enjoy fella its all about gravity ...http://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/building-implosion.htm

Gener

Goodbye

I am tired of stupidity

emarine

I thought that might be a bit over your head... sorry... go back to your Lego's

payne1000

Gravity forces are straight down, not sideways:

payne1000

You're asking readers not to believe what their eyes tell them.
Buildings don't collapse from fire damage. None ever have in the hundred year history of skyscrapers. If a skyscraper could fall from fire damage it would be a gradual collapse over a period of hours and the towers would have to be totally consumed by flames. The debris from the collapse would fall straight down rather than being propelled hundreds of feet outward from the center. The concrete floors would remain intact until they hit the ground instead of being pulverized as they fall. The fires in the South Tower burned for less than an hour. That's not nearly enough time to weaken even the top section. The North tower caught fire on the 11th floor in 1975 and burned for three times as long as the South Tower on 9/11. The steel was not damaged enough to require repair or replacement.

DASHY

This back and forth discussion is a pretty good example of Confirmation Bias, which is the tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions.

1) Our Government leaders would never get involved in a horrific act against its own citizens and then lie about it.

2) Leaders have lied to its own people in the past and are capable of taking whatever course of action deemed necessary to gain the approval of their followers.

payne1000

I had no preconceptions when 9/11 happened. I base my opinions on the fact that the three towers were brought down by controlled demolitions. There is no other explanation which will conform to the laws of science and physics.

The fact that those towers were imploded means our government and mainstream media has lied to us in order to create a fake war on terror against Arab/Muslim countries.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Gee, no sh!t, Sherlock.

Flight 175 crashed through the South Tower at an angle where the fatal damage sustained was through the SE side. Do you think that had anything to do with why the structure failed there first and was obviously the reason why the upper floors tilted that direction before the entire support failed?

Yeah, damn that gravity, it has a way of doing things like that.

payne1000

The entire support of the 78 lower floors had no reason to fail. The 78 lower floors were not damaged by the fires or by the airliner. They were as strong as the day they were built.
The only way they could be taken down is by controlled demolition. The videos show controlled demolition.
The news commentator on this video compares the fall of the South tower to a controlled demolition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyu-fZ2nRA

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The Youtube Bandit strikes again.

emarine

well what do ya know... we're making some progress here... gravity's effect is straight down... now considering the towers were only 208' wide ... nothing was thrown hundred's of feet except dust and very light materials that could carry from the height and wind... the big chunks of what looks like steel beams are the light weight aluminum facing floating around and the heavy frame sections fell close to the building... you are still clueless on the energy involved from acre's of 4" concrete falling onto a floor system designed to carry 1300t getting heavier and falling faster with each floor... any idiot can understand that your statement of no steel frame building ever collapsed from a fire... which is false, but not my point ... back to the idiot part... no other skyscrapers were hit with fully loaded 757's cutting through a large portion of the steel frame and burned at the same time from a jet-A explosion and unknown amounts of residual fuel... the proof is in the video... use you eyes without the bullshit...The building failed @ the impact point from the plane... no ka boom putz... it's all about gravity...The weight and height involved was equal to 500,000lbs of TNT in kinetic energy... no explosives were necessary ... just a plane crash, Jet-A explosion and a huge fire... plus gravity pulling straight down ... the building fell exactly as it should have given the circumstances... straight down...