eagleye13 Loc: Fl

How in the hell did you come up with that handle "America Only"?
That is false advertising.

emarine

Impossible... not so... each floor had a live load max capacity of 1300 ton... once that is exceeded its game over straight down... there was huge amount stored energy in the physical weight from the damage above the plane impacts to cause the collapse and it only gets faster as the added weight from the floors above overwhelm the floors below... watch this vid as many times as you need to.. notice the moment of failure around 6 secs in... the left corner of the south tower fails and moves 30 feet inward... no explosion, flash or shock wave even with all the smoke... the falling mass of the floors ejects the smoke and lighter materials... the floor system fell ahead of the steel frame work... This really isn't rocket science... just simple gravity with a lot of weight and distance to fall...
The fact that 60 stories of the center column stood for more than 12 seconds after the collapse proves that the failure was no where near free fall speed...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKx0Ebd3clQ

payne1000

Your explanation isn't rocket science or any kind of science. The undamaged lower floors of the towers could not be crushed by the same weight they had held up for over half a century. The North Tower only had about 20 floors above where the airliner hit. The 240 perimeter vertical steel columns were designed to support five times the weight they actually held up. The 47 massive vertical steel columns in the center core were designed to hold up three times the weight they actually supported. Those lower floors could have had 100 floors drop on them and they would not collapse. The floors dropped on them would just stop and fall off to the side.

Gener

You just keep thinking that.

emarine

it appears there is a lot you cant grasp here...

Gener

No, you don't get it, emarine. You are talking nonsense and you are not listening to anything anyone is saying. You are just wasting everyone's time.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Emar;
Even Forrest Gump had more common sense than you.
"Stupid is as stupid does".
http://youtu.be/tldGgGFe194

EMAR - You are a Forrest Gump to the 3'rd power.
That may be giving you too much credit.

Stupid is as stupid says.

okie don

" Life is just a box of chochlets"

payne1000

I never could grasp ignorance and/or deceit.

Neal

This video, and ANY claim for evidence in the 9-11 matter referencing data from 1962 is the purest hogwash. Perhaps you should look more carefully at the proponents reputations for truthful reporting - yucky, right wing political propaganda as usual . . .

emarine

Grasp this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKx0Ebd3clQ

Slow motion high definition proof you guys are full of shit.... if you need to invent crap go back to school

okie don

Yep, Larry Silver-stein, the owner of WTC as well as Building #7 said " PULL IT" and there came #7 down... Imploded in it's own footprint!
No plane hit it.
The ' official 9/11 report made no mention about this building.

Aw shucks folks, nothing here, move along and believe what we, the Mainstream media, tell 'ya. e.g.
A guy in a cave in Afghanistan did it with his cell phone. Had NORAD stand down too!

Damn wish I could find my tin foil. (:

emarine

A link just for you & Larry... notice the title...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9-11_conspiracy_theories

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

The ISIS-US Empire
Posted by Veterans Today on March 11, 2015
Their Unholy Alliance Fully Exposed
By Joachim Hagopian
http://www.veteranstoday.com/
Let’s be perfectly clear. The United States is not actually at war with ISIS. President Obama is simply waging “a fake war” against the Islamic State forces, putting on another propaganda show for mainstream media to keep his flock of American sheeple asleep in echo-chambered darkness. With a mere cursory review of recent historical events, one can readily realize that virtually everything Big Government tells us is happening in the world, you can bet is a boldface lie.
For over three and a half decades the US has been funding mostly Saudi stooges to do its dirty bidding in proxy wars around the world, beginning in Afghanistan in the 1980’s to fight the Soviets with the mujahedeen-turned al Qaeda that later would mutate into ISIS. Reagan and Bush senior gave Osama bin Laden his first terrorist gig. Our mercenary “Islamic extremists” for-hire were then on the CIA payroll employed in the Balkans during the 1990’s to kill fellow Moslem Serbs in Kosovo and Bosnia. For a long time now Washington’s been relying on the royal Saudi family as its chief headhunters supplying the United States with as needed terrorists on demand in order to wage its geopolitics chessboard game of global hegemony, otherwise known by the central banking cabal as global “Theft-R-Us.”
The Bush crime family were in bed with the bin Ladens long before 9/11 when that very morning George H W Bush on behalf of his Carlyle Group was wining and dining together with Osama’s brother at the posh DC Ritz Carlton while 19 box cutting Saudi stooges were acting as the neocon’s hired guns allegedly committing the greatest atrocity ever perpetrated on US soil in the history of this nation. And in the 9/11 immediate aftermath while only birds were flying the not-so-friendly skies above America, there was but one exception and that was the Air Force escort given the bin Ladens flying safely back home to their “Terrorists-R-Us” mecca called Saudi Arabia. On 9/11 the Zionist Israeli Mossad, Saudi intelligence and the Bush-Cheney neocons were busily pulling the trigger murdering near 3000 Americans in cold blood as the most deadly, most heinous crime in US history. If you’re awake enough to recognize this ugly truth as cold hard fact, then it’s certainly not a stretch to see the truth behind this latest US created hoax called ISIS.
Renowned investigative journalist and author Seymour Hersh astutely saw the writing on the wall way back in 2006 (emphasis added):
To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in
effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has
cooperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are
intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also
taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these
activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of
Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.
The US Empire along with its international partner-in-crime Israel has allowed and encouraged Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to be the primary financiers of al Qaeda turned ISIS. Even Vice President Joe Biden last year said the same. If Empire wanted to truly destroy the entire Islamic extremist movement in the Middle East it could have applied its global superpower pressure on its allied Gulf State nations to stop funding the ISIS jihadists. But that has never happened for the simple reason that Israel, those same Arab allies and the United States want a convenient “bad guy” enemy in the Middle East and North Africa, hiding the fact that al Qaeda-ISIS for decades has been its mercenary ally on the ground in more recent years in the Golan Heights, Libya, Iraq and Syria.
As recently as a month ago it was reported that an Islamic State operative claimed that funding for ISIS had been funneled through the US. Of course another “staunch” US-NATO ally Turkey has historically allowed its territory to be a safe staging ground as well as a training area for ISIS. It additionally allows jihadist leaders to move freely in and out of Syria through Turkey. Along with Israel and all of US Empire’s Moslem nation states as our strategic friends in the Middle East, together they have been arming, financing and training al Qaeda/ISIS to do its double bidding, fighting enemies like Gaddafi in Libya and Assad in Syria while also posing as global terrorist boogie men threatening the security of the entire world. Again, Washington cannot continue to double speak its lies from both sides of its mouth and then expect to continue having it both ways and expect the world to still be buying it.
A breaking story that’s creating an even larger crack in the wall of the US false narrative is the revelation that Iraqi counterterrorism forces just arrested four US-Israeli military advisors assisting (i.e., aiding and abetting) the ISIS enemy, three of whom hold duel citizenships from both Israel and America. This latest piece of evidence arrives on the heels of a Sputnik article from a couple weeks ago quoting American historian Webster Tarpley saying that “the United States created the Islamic State and uses jihadists as its secret army to destabilize the Middle East.” The historian also supported claims that the ISIS has in large part been financed by the Saudi royal family. Interviewed on Press TV the critic of US foreign policy asked why NATO ally Turkey bordering both Iraq and Syria where the Islamic State jihadists continue to terrorize, why can’t Turkey simply use its larger, vastly superior army to go in and defeat the much smaller ISIS, especially if the US and NATO were serious about destroying their alleged enemy. Again, if ISIS is the enemy, why did the US recently launch an air strike on Assad’s forces that were in process of defeating ISIS? The reason is all too obvious, the bombing was meant to afflict damage to stop Assad’s forces from beating back ISIS that the US is clearly protecting.
Finally, Tarpley reaffirmed what many others have been saying that chicken hawk Senator John McCain is actual buddies with ISIS kingpin Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Of course photos abound of his frequent “secret” meetings with ISIS leadership illegally conducted inside Syria. This confirmed fact provides yet one more obvious link between the high powered criminal operative posing as US senator and the so called enemy of the “free world” ISIS.
Recall that iconic photo from June last year of American supplied trucks traveling unimpeded in the ISIS convoy kicking up dust in the Iraqi desert fresh from the Syrian battlefields heading south towards Baghdad. It was no accident that they were equipped with an enormous fleet of brand new Toyota trucks and armed with rockets, artillery and Stinger missiles all furnished by US Empire. Nor was it an accident that the Iraqi Army simply did an about face and ran, with orders undoubtedly coming from somewhere high above in the American Empire. The Islamic State forces were allowed to seize possession of 2500 armored troop carriers, over 1000 Humvees and several dozen US battlefield tanks all paid for by US tax dollars. This entire spectacle was permitted as ISIS without any resistance then took control of Mosul the second largest city in Iraq including a half billion dollars robbing a bank. Throughout this process, it was definitely no accident that the United States allowed the Islamic State forces to invade Iraq as with advanced US airpower it could have within a couple hours easily carpet bombed and totally eliminated ISIS since the Islamic State possessed no anti-aircraft weapons. And even now with the hi-tech wizardry of satellites, lasers, nanotechnology and advanced cyber-warfare, the US and allied intelligence has the means of accurately locating and with far superior firepower totally eradicating ISIS if the will to do so actually existed. But the fact is there is no desire to kill the phantom enemy when in fact it’s the friend of the traitors in charge of the US government who drive the Empire’s global war policy.

payne1000

Your video is proof you are full of shit.
You only have to watch the first 10 seconds to see that when the explosions start to detonate the upper section starts to list to the left. If the lower part of the building had not been exploded below it, that entire top section would have toppled off to the side.

Top of the tower starts to fall to one side. Explosions destroy the resistance that caused that list.


Remnants of the outer perimeter wall. This is what was showing in the video instead of the central core.