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Oct 19, 2015 00:11:25   #
Gener
 
Gener wrote:
The government will NEVER reinvestigate this. It is not in their interests to do so, and emarine, you are not even making any sense. There is NO possible gravitational anomaly that could have brought those buildings down. As far as hearing the sound of the explosions, give us a break. The building wasn't that close in the video and the explosions took place inside the building. How many sounds do you hear in the video? You are either deluded or you are purposely trying to create confusion. A building CANNOT come straight down like that. It CANNOT happen. Period.
The government will NEVER reinvestigate this. It i... (show quote)


I noticed that going into the videos posted here, after a short one, there is a video with Jim Marrs doing some of the narrating. I met Jim Marrs in Nashville a few years ago and was very impressed with his knowledge, his gentleness and friendliness, and the interesting way he presents facts. It might be a very good video to watch, no matter which side you are on.

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Oct 19, 2015 00:13:48   #
emarine
 
Gener wrote:
The government will NEVER reinvestigate this. It is not in their interests to do so, and emarine, you are not even making any sense. There is NO possible gravitational anomaly that could have brought those buildings down. As far as hearing the sound of the explosions, give us a break. The building wasn't that close in the video and the explosions took place inside the building. How many sounds do you hear in the video? You are either deluded or you are purposely trying to create confusion. A building CANNOT come straight down like that. It CANNOT happen. Period.
The government will NEVER reinvestigate this. It i... (show quote)


Gravitational anomaly... where did you learn that from?... The gravity involved in all 3 collapses was very normal... what goes up must come down... high explosives used in the demolition of large buildings tend to be very loud and produce shock waves... easily viewed with heavy smoke... you can view hundreds of controlled demolitions and clearly hear every explosion as well as see them... you can clearly view the moment of failure in slow motion video of the south tower... there were no explosives involved... except for people who want there to be explosives involved... then there were explosives involved if that's what you need.. even mini nukes... ka boom

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Oct 19, 2015 08:29:08   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Gravitational anomaly... where did you learn that from?... The gravity involved in all 3 collapses was very normal... what goes up must come down... high explosives used in the demolition of large buildings tend to be very loud and produce shock waves... easily viewed with heavy smoke... you can view hundreds of controlled demolitions and clearly hear every explosion as well as see them... you can clearly view the moment of failure in slow motion video of the south tower... there were no explosives involved... except for people who want there to be explosives involved... then there were explosives involved if that's what you need.. even mini nukes... ka boom
Gravitational anomaly... where did you learn that ... (show quote)


Why do you continue to deny the explosions when the proof of those explosions has been presented to you many times?
Watch this news video again and then tell readers there were no explosions. Most here already know you're a liar. Prove it again by saying this Youtube video was faked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

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Oct 19, 2015 10:12:47   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why do you continue to deny the explosions when the proof of those explosions has been presented to you many times?
Watch this news video again and then tell readers there were no explosions. Most here already know you're a liar. Prove it again by saying this Youtube video was faked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk


Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no visible flashes in any video anywhere of buildings that were 50% glass, no recorded sounds sounding like controlled demolition and 60 floors worth of center core that fell 20 seconds after the collapse...the only sections without glass were the mechanical floors where all the transformers were and huge transformer's in the base... ka boom... what sound does an acre of 4 inch concrete make when it falls on the floor beneath it 110 times? Transformers explode from ice storms... what happens when 3000 miles worth of electrical cable are cut by a jet plane? ka boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw

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Oct 19, 2015 10:29:26   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no visible flashes in any video anywhere of buildings that were 50% glass, no recorded sounds sounding like controlled demolition and 60 floors worth of center core that fell 20 seconds after the collapse...the only sections without glass were the mechanical floors where all the transformers were and huge transformer's in the base... ka boom... what sound does an acre of 4 inch concrete make when it falls on the floor beneath it 110 times? Transformers explode from ice storms... what happens when 3000 miles worth of electrical cable are cut by a jet plane? ka boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no vi... (show quote)


The witnesses in the news videos did not describe what they saw and heard as bangs. They called them what they were--explosions. Videos of the towers coming down reveal that the concrete slabs did not fall on one another. They were exploded outwards from the center and much of the concrete was pulverized to dust before it ever hit the ground. The debris pile on the ground shows little concrete. where did it all go? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

Where is the concrete?
Where is the concrete?...

Where is the concrete?
Where is the concrete?...

where is the concrete?
where is the concrete?...

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Oct 19, 2015 10:37:11   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Building 7?
The empty ditch in PA?
The nano thermite?
Testimonies of firemen on site?
Emar; who are you covering for?

emarine wrote:
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no visible flashes in any video anywhere of buildings that were 50% glass, no recorded sounds sounding like controlled demolition and 60 floors worth of center core that fell 20 seconds after the collapse...the only sections without glass were the mechanical floors where all the transformers were and huge transformer's in the base... ka boom... what sound does an acre of 4 inch concrete make when it falls on the floor beneath it 110 times? Transformers explode from ice storms... what happens when 3000 miles worth of electrical cable are cut by a jet plane? ka boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no vi... (show quote)

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Oct 19, 2015 11:43:56   #
DASHY
 
emarine wrote:
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no visible flashes in any video anywhere of buildings that were 50% glass, no recorded sounds sounding like controlled demolition and 60 floors worth of center core that fell 20 seconds after the collapse...the only sections without glass were the mechanical floors where all the transformers were and huge transformer's in the base... ka boom... what sound does an acre of 4 inch concrete make when it falls on the floor beneath it 110 times? Transformers explode from ice storms... what happens when 3000 miles worth of electrical cable are cut by a jet plane? ka boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw
Lots of people hearing the same few bangs... no vi... (show quote)


Another question goes unanswered. Where were the interceptors? How could the September 11 planners assume they would have up to an hour to fly around unopposed when newspaper reports revealed that Airforce interceptors routinely swoop alongside off-course planes within 21 minutes of receiving a scramble order? Was it catastrophic military incompetence or was NORAD part of the conspiracy?

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Oct 19, 2015 11:49:29   #
Gener
 
emarine wrote:
Gravitational anomaly... where did you learn that from?... The gravity involved in all 3 collapses was very normal... what goes up must come down... high explosives used in the demolition of large buildings tend to be very loud and produce shock waves... easily viewed with heavy smoke... you can view hundreds of controlled demolitions and clearly hear every explosion as well as see them... you can clearly view the moment of failure in slow motion video of the south tower... there were no explosives involved... except for people who want there to be explosives involved... then there were explosives involved if that's what you need.. even mini nukes... ka boom
Gravitational anomaly... where did you learn that ... (show quote)



I got it from you. Buildings cannot come straight down from gravity. That would require the superstructure to distort at the exact same level, the exact same amount every point in the way. That is impossible. It cannot happen. The only way it can happen is with controlled explosions happening in exactly the right order, exactly the right amount, and exactly the right time, otherwise the building buckles and falls to the side. This is especially true of the World Trade Center buildings. The airplane hit the tower well above the middle of the building. There is a gaping hole there, which already gives the building an incentive to buckle to the side. Yet it doesn't happen. Buildings CANNOT come straight down in this way. It is IMPOSSIBLE. Any good structural engineer will tell you. Also, the weight of the stories above could not possibly be enough to force the building to come down at the speed of gravity. That would require an anomaly, which is what you were proposing. And even if you could make an argument for everything else, the weight of the upper floors would have to be exactly the same on each point of the lower floors to keep them from buckling more on one side than the other. It is impossible. It is IMPOSSIBLE. It cannot happen.

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Oct 19, 2015 13:45:39   #
Gener
 
DASHY wrote:
Another question goes unanswered. Where were the interceptors? How could the September 11 planners assume they would have up to an hour to fly around unopposed when newspaper reports revealed that Airforce interceptors routinely swoop alongside off-course planes within 21 minutes of receiving a scramble order? Was it catastrophic military incompetence or was NORAD part of the conspiracy?



The official story is "we were playing war games." Does that explanation really make sense? Of course not. Our enemies would have destroyed us long ago if that were possible. It is ridiculous. Yet people just accept the explanation our government gives us. That is why the government never comes out and says, Here is the response to the conspiracy people. Because they CAN'T answer it, so they just call us nuts and conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy has become a bad word unless you are Hillary Clinton. She doesn't hesitate to blame her problems on a right wing conspiracy. That's a conspiracy people can believe in. But how dare you question the government.

Jets were eventually scrambled, when it was almost too late. But they got the wrong orders (for some strange reason) they flew out over the Atlantic, not to the spot they were needed. Why? The 9/11 commission went to a lot of trouble to say things I don't remember now, but something to the effect that different agencies thought it was another agencies responsibility and that the wrong people were notified, and so on and so forth til it gets ridiculous. But that's the government for you, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with....

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Oct 19, 2015 13:57:12   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
payne1000 wrote:
The witnesses in the news videos did not describe what they saw and heard as bangs. They called them what they were--explosions. Videos of the towers coming down reveal that the concrete slabs did not fall on one another. They were exploded outwards from the center and much of the concrete was pulverized to dust before it ever hit the ground. The debris pile on the ground shows little concrete. where did it all go? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc


You are not accurate at all. There is plenty of concrete all throughout the rubble. No explosive devices had been used on the twin towers! You discount the facts rapidly with wild conjecture.

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Oct 19, 2015 14:24:02   #
payne1000
 
DASHY wrote:
Another question goes unanswered. Where were the interceptors? How could the September 11 planners assume they would have up to an hour to fly around unopposed when newspaper reports revealed that Airforce interceptors routinely swoop alongside off-course planes within 21 minutes of receiving a scramble order? Was it catastrophic military incompetence or was NORAD part of the conspiracy?


Why did General Myers, acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, claim he was in Senator Max Clelland's office at the Senate for the duration of the attacks when Donald Rumsfeld claims Myers was with him at the Pentagon? Go to the 28 minute mark of this video to hear Rumsfeld contradict what Myers had told the press. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrD8VbAcB2A

Myers claims he was in Cleland's office at the Senate: http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a903myerslearns

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Oct 19, 2015 14:39:49   #
Gener
 
America Only wrote:
You are not accurate at all. There is plenty of concrete all throughout the rubble. No explosive devices had been used on the twin towers! You discount the facts rapidly with wild conjecture.



The debris from the situation was quickly removed in contrast to federal law so that there could be no investigation of the material.

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Oct 19, 2015 14:49:18   #
payne1000
 
America Only wrote:
You are not accurate at all. There is plenty of concrete all throughout the rubble. No explosive devices had been used on the twin towers! You discount the facts rapidly with wild conjecture.


Anyone who can see will note there are no large pieces of concrete in any of the debris photos. There were 110 floors of 4" thick concrete. What happened to all that concrete?
Watch this video to see what happened to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

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Oct 19, 2015 14:57:55   #
payne1000
 
Gener wrote:
The official story is "we were playing war games." Does that explanation really make sense? Of course not. Our enemies would have destroyed us long ago if that were possible. It is ridiculous. Yet people just accept the explanation our government gives us. That is why the government never comes out and says, Here is the response to the conspiracy people. Because they CAN'T answer it, so they just call us nuts and conspiracy theorists. Conspiracy has become a bad word unless you are Hillary Clinton. She doesn't hesitate to blame her problems on a right wing conspiracy. That's a conspiracy people can believe in. But how dare you question the government.

Jets were eventually scrambled, when it was almost too late. But they got the wrong orders (for some strange reason) they flew out over the Atlantic, not to the spot they were needed. Why? The 9/11 commission went to a lot of trouble to say things I don't remember now, but something to the effect that different agencies thought it was another agencies responsibility and that the wrong people were notified, and so on and so forth til it gets ridiculous. But that's the government for you, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with....
The official story is "we were playing war ga... (show quote)


The war games were designed to confuse the FAA controllers. There were so many unidentified aircraft in the air it was very difficult for the alleged hijacked planes to be tracked. General Richard Myers and General Eberhardt at Norad claimed the war games actually helped on 9/11 by having so many planes in the air and at a heightened readiness. Do they think we are idiots? What difference did having the planes in the air and at a heightened readiness make if they did nothing?

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Oct 19, 2015 15:28:06   #
Gener
 
payne1000 wrote:
The war games were designed to confuse the FAA controllers. There were so many unidentified aircraft in the air it was very difficult for the alleged hijacked planes to be tracked. General Richard Myers and General Eberhardt at Norad claimed the war games actually helped on 9/11 by having so many planes in the air and at a heightened readiness. Do they think we are idiots? What difference did having the planes in the air and at a heightened readiness make if they did nothing?



Exactly

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