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Oct 17, 2015 12:38:37   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
You apparently are not even familiar with the construction of those buildings. The concrete slabs were held on by a " lip" on the outer structure. The exterior steel bent on the way down as the THOUSANDs of Photo's show


This video shows the South Tower being demolished with explosives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

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Oct 17, 2015 12:42:08   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
Massive Concrete Slabs the size of a City Block and as thick as 2 feet wouldn't drop straight down? Would they defy the laws of gravity and fall sideways?


But those massive concrete slabs didn't fall straight down. They were blown into pieces and hurled hundreds of feet outward from the center by powerful explosives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

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Oct 17, 2015 12:44:10   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
And a massive block of concrete dropped from 75 stories in the air would remain intact? Are you stupid?


The concrete floors didn't come apart by hitting the ground. They were exploded in the air. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

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Oct 17, 2015 13:08:49   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
The concrete floors didn't come apart by hitting the ground. They were exploded in the air. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc


So once again Larry you try and prove your conspiracy theory with more youtube conspiracy theory BS... Your expert claims that the squibs ejecting at speeds of 100mph proves the point... nothing but compression of airspace in a pancake collapse... Explosions exceed the speed of sound... plain and simple... your expert lacks creditability in the most basic physical aspects to form a respectable opinion ... Here is some basic info to dispute your link...

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/sound.html

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Oct 17, 2015 13:15:17   #
Gener
 
VladimirPee wrote:
Massive Concrete Slabs the size of a City Block and as thick as 2 feet wouldn't drop straight down? Would they defy the laws of gravity and fall sideways?


Of course they would. Why do you think we use demolition experts to bring buildings down and not just burn them down? Fires burn at an uneven level on each side of the building. Therefore the building has to topple. It has to! It can happen in no other way. Some people refer to the building in Nazi Germany, (I forget the name but the government brought it down and blamed it on other groups) and say, see, it came straight down. Not the same thing. The steel frame was still there. Buildings cannot fall straight down. They just can't do it. Sooner or later the structure will topple. Even with controlled demolitions, you have to be an expert, a very high level expert to know where to put the explosions in order to make sure no part of the structure leans in the process and topples.

Furthermore. The government's argument that the weight of the stories above the fire forced the building to free fall also is impossible physically. It cannot happen. Much of the building above the fire was already turned to dust. This also cannot happen unless high level weapons are used, which due to old age I cannot remember the name of. The fire would not create that much dust that instantaneously, and dust does not have the weight to cause the floors below to fall.

And the real kicker is, even if the above could happen, the floors below could not fall at the same rate as gravity. I don't care how much weight is bearing down upon them. The steel beams below would not yet have been affected by the heat of the fire. They would still hold until adequate pressure had been placed on them.

It has been years since I have studied this, so I am at a great disadvantage here because I just do not remember all the arguments on either side. I do know that a critical analysis of the situation leads to "knowing" that the government is lying. The 9/11 commission report has been proven to be a fraud, and the government has changed their story many times since then. A critical analysis of the 9/11 commission report shows that it is deeply flawed. That is all there is to it. The government is lying. Period. And there is NO valid argument against that.

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Oct 17, 2015 13:20:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
VladimirPee wrote:
Are you claiming that MILLIONS of people did not see 2 Jets hit the World Trade Center in one of the most populated places on earth? Is this your silly position?


No; just pictures of the plane wreckage at the Pentagon, and in PA.

You know: Engines; tail sections, wings, bodies, luggage. Things like that.

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Oct 17, 2015 13:27:14   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
This video shows the South Tower being demolished with explosives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc

Gener wrote:
Of course they would. Why do you think we use demolition experts to bring buildings down and not just burn them down? Fires burn at an uneven level on each side of the building. Therefore the building has to topple. It has to! It can happen in no other way. Some people refer to the building in Nazi Germany, (I forget the name but the government brought it down and blamed it on other groups) and say, see, it came straight down. Not the same thing. The steel frame was still there. Buildings cannot fall straight down. They just can't do it. Sooner or later the structure will topple. Even with controlled demolitions, you have to be an expert, a very high level expert to know where to put the explosions in order to make sure no part of the structure leans in the process and topples.

Furthermore. The government's argument that the weight of the stories above the fire forced the building to free fall also is impossible physically. It cannot happen. Much of the building above the fire was already turned to dust. This also cannot happen unless high level weapons are used, which due to old age I cannot remember the name of. The fire would not create that much dust that instantaneously, and dust does not have the weight to cause the floors below to fall.

And the real kicker is, even if the above could happen, the floors below could not fall at the same rate as gravity. I don't care how much weight is bearing down upon them. The steel beams below would not yet have been affected by the heat of the fire. They would still hold until adequate pressure had been placed on them.

It has been years since I have studied this, so I am at a great disadvantage here because I just do not remember all the arguments on either side. I do know that a critical analysis of the situation leads to "knowing" that the government is lying. The 9/11 commission report has been proven to be a fraud, and the government has changed their story many times since then. A critical analysis of the 9/11 commission report shows that it is deeply flawed. That is all there is to it. The government is lying. Period. And there is NO valid argument against that.
Of course they would. Why do you think we use demo... (show quote)

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Oct 17, 2015 13:39:53   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
So once again Larry you try and prove your conspiracy theory with more youtube conspiracy theory BS... Your expert claims that the squibs ejecting at speeds of 100mph proves the point... nothing but compression of airspace in a pancake collapse... Explosions exceed the speed of sound... plain and simple... your expert lacks creditability in the most basic physical aspects to form a respectable opinion ... Here is some basic info to dispute your link...

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/sound.html
So once again Larry you try and prove your conspir... (show quote)


It's hilarious that you trolls are so desperate to defend the official lies that you attempt to demonize Youtube. As I've said before, Youtube doesn't produce the information they transmit. Mainstream media does produce the lies and propaganda they foist on the public. Mainstream media is the true demon and all of it is owned and controlled by Zionists.
As far as physicist Chandler lacking credibility, you don't even have to listen to him to see the truth in the video. The distance the falling debris is thrown outward from the building along with severed steel beams is proof that explosives were used. Even NIST has backed away from the pancake theory.

This is not enough fire to bring a building down.
This is not enough fire to bring a building down....

This would come closer to a fire that could cause a building to fall, but the mandarin Hotel remained standing.
This would come closer to a fire that could cause ...

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Oct 17, 2015 14:32:47   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
payne1000 wrote:
It's hilarious that you trolls are so desperate to defend the official lies that you attempt to demonize Youtube. As I've said before, Youtube doesn't produce the information they transmit. Mainstream media does produce the lies and propaganda they foist on the public. Mainstream media is the true demon and all of it is owned and controlled by Zionists.
As far as physicist Chandler lacking credibility, you don't even have to listen to him to see the truth in the video. The distance the falling debris is thrown outward from the building along with severed steel beams is proof that explosives were used. Even NIST has backed away from the pancake theory.
It's hilarious that you trolls are so desperate to... (show quote)


Why is that so hard for more people to understand?
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Oct 17, 2015 14:51:41   #
Gener
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Why is that so hard for more people to understand?
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It is hard for people to understand because it frightens them, and they do not want the truth. They are paranoid about it and as usual they project their own paranoia out on other people. Kevyn says we should all be in a mental institution. Yet it is he and those like him who really should be there. They are the ones who are too afraid to face the truth. And of course, this is one of the government's favorite tricks. They cannot support their ridiculous story so they say, "Whoever doesn't believe us should be locked away." What an excellent way to get around freedom of speech. The government tells us what to believe and we either believe it or are deemed crazy. Put them in mental institutions. That way we can pretend we have free speech when we really don't. The sad truth is people are not going to wake up. They just won't do it. They are too afraid, and they project their fear out onto us.

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Oct 17, 2015 14:58:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
So true; but no matter what anyone believes, we have to live reality.
Ignoring it, only prolongs what they choose to ignore.

Gener wrote:
It is hard for people to understand because it frightens them, and they do not want the truth. They are paranoid about it and as usual they project their own paranoia out on other people. Kevyn says we should all be in a mental institution. Yet it is he and those like him who really should be there. They are the ones who are too afraid to face the truth. And of course, this is one of the government's favorite tricks. They cannot support their ridiculous story so they say, "Whoever doesn't believe us should be locked away." What an excellent way to get around freedom of speech. The government tells us what to believe and we either believe it or are deemed crazy. Put them in mental institutions. That way we can pretend we have free speech when we really don't. The sad truth is people are not going to wake up. They just won't do it. They are too afraid, and they project their fear out onto us.
It is hard for people to understand because it fri... (show quote)


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Oct 17, 2015 15:06:42   #
Jeffhunter
 
eagleye13 wrote:
No; just pictures of the plane wreckage at the Pentagon, and in PA.

You know: Engines; tail sections, wings, bodies, luggage. Things like that.


The only pictures I saw of the pa site shows a hole in the ground and nothing else. I researched all the other plane crashes I could and they all had recognizable plane debris but the pa site is just a hole. It looks like a missile strike.

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Oct 17, 2015 15:08:22   #
payne1000
 
Gener wrote:
It is hard for people to understand because it frightens them, and they do not want the truth. They are paranoid about it and as usual they project their own paranoia out on other people. Kevyn says we should all be in a mental institution. Yet it is he and those like him who really should be there. They are the ones who are too afraid to face the truth. And of course, this is one of the government's favorite tricks. They cannot support their ridiculous story so they say, "Whoever doesn't believe us should be locked away." What an excellent way to get around freedom of speech. The government tells us what to believe and we either believe it or are deemed crazy. Put them in mental institutions. That way we can pretend we have free speech when we really don't. The sad truth is people are not going to wake up. They just won't do it. They are too afraid, and they project their fear out onto us.
It is hard for people to understand because it fri... (show quote)


Don't forget, many of those who work continuously on forums to cover up the lies of 9/11 and all the evil deeds that came with it are paid trolls. The perpetrators control the mainstream media but they haven't yet been able to control the internet. They must employ a vast army of trolls in an attempt to keep the truth from the majority.

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Oct 17, 2015 15:11:35   #
payne1000
 
Jeffhunter wrote:
The only pictures I saw of the pa site shows a hole in the ground and nothing else. I researched all the other plane crashes I could and they all had recognizable plane debris but the pa site is just a hole. It looks like a missile strike.


Or just explosives planted in the ground.

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Oct 17, 2015 15:38:11   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
payne1000 wrote:
Or just explosives planted in the ground.


I opened a site that showed the ditch/scar on an earlier google map, before it was used as the "landing" site. To me it looked like a minor excavation/ mine pit looking for something. Then it never materialized.
A lot of witnesses said; no plane, no bodies,, no luggage, etc.

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