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Oct 16, 2015 14:44:45   #
VladimirPee
 
# Afghanistan is landlocked. Bill Clinton tried to take him out with cruise missiles but from the time of launch to arrival of missile hours passed and we missed him. Another time he was in the gunsights of CIA operatives but Clinton called it off because BinLaden was with a Saudi Royal


eagleye13 wrote:
So why did our Gov/CIA/Mossad not take him out?
As per our MSM tells us they didn't. Hmmmmmm

Pee; How about you using some "common sense"
You are on a par with jmo as far as having common sense.
You are the one claiming Bin Laden was still roaming around.

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Oct 16, 2015 15:22:22   #
DASHY
 
JMHO wrote:
This is a good reason why I don't debate conspiracy theorists such as yourself...it's a total waste of time. It's like spitting into the wind. One could show you some factual evidence, and you would just pooh pooh it with some nonsensical remarks and more conspiracy theories. So, now you know why you have a lot of viewers who read SOME of your posts, but never respond...total waste of time. You're a joke, pal.


I believe that Government leaders lie to their own people when they think it will advance a particular world view that they know will not be embraced by most of its citizens. The most damaging lie in the history of America is the story told in the 911 Commission Report. To begin to understand this great lie, I began with analyzing the account of the collapse of building 7. No plane hit that building. The decision to PULL IT has been confirmed. Explosions were heard and the 47-story building collapsed in its own footprint in just 11 seconds. How could that be? A grand plan was put into place that day that resulted in Americans losing many of their liberties and thousands of good patriotic Americans losing their lives in endless wars to follow. But we would rather spend our time worrying about Mrs. Clinton lying about her emails.

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Oct 16, 2015 15:29:03   #
VladimirPee
 
I guess you didn't put much thought into it. No planes hit WTC 7 but over 200 Stories of Buildings collapses on and around it. The building was indeed on fire. Probably could have been put out on any normal day but the building was empty, The fire department had just lost 350 men and thousands of victims were buried under the rubble. Fire Hydrants were damaged or non existent and much of the NYC Fire equipment was destroyed.

But you dopes think they should have stopped what they were doing to save an empty building. Not a shred of common sense from the lot of you truthers.


DASHY wrote:
I believe that Government leaders lie to their own people when they think it will advance a particular world view that they know will not be embraced by most of its citizens. The most damaging lie in the history of America is the story told in the 911 Commission Report. To begin to understand this great lie, I began with analyzing the account of the collapse of building 7. No plane hit that building. The decision to PULL IT has been confirmed. Explosions were heard and the 47-story building collapsed in its own footprint in just 11 seconds. How could that be? A grand plan was put into place that day that resulted in Americans losing many of their liberties and thousands of good patriotic Americans losing their lives in endless wars to follow. But we would rather spend our time worrying about Mrs. Clinton lying about her emails.
I believe that Government leaders lie to their own... (show quote)





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Oct 16, 2015 15:46:34   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
DASHY wrote:
I believe that Government leaders lie to their own people when they think it will advance a particular world view that they know will not be embraced by most of its citizens. The most damaging lie in the history of America is the story told in the 911 Commission Report. To begin to understand this great lie, I began with analyzing the account of the collapse of building 7. No plane hit that building. The decision to PULL IT has been confirmed. Explosions were heard and the 47-story building collapsed in its own footprint in just 11 seconds. How could that be? A grand plan was put into place that day that resulted in Americans losing many of their liberties and thousands of good patriotic Americans losing their lives in endless wars to follow. But we would rather spend our time worrying about Mrs. Clinton lying about her emails.
I believe that Government leaders lie to their own... (show quote)


Bullcrap! Wake up! You're delusional.

Can you show me the test results from the test of flying two airliners, full of fuel, into two towers constructed the same as The Twin Towers, with a clone of building 7 nearby? Can you show me those results? Until you can, you're guessing, fabricating, what happened. The building could have shoddy construction, who knows. No one has ever stood on the ground near a collapsing building the size of the Twin Towers and measured the tremor intensity, or anything else. You don't know, pal...and, neither do I. But, to just take wild guesses, and then make up conspiracy theories around that wild ass guessing, is just stupid. All this 9/11 conspiracy crap is just that...crap. No real proof, just fabrication, and wild ass guessing. Wake up.

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Oct 16, 2015 15:58:00   #
DASHY
 
JMHO wrote:
Bullcrap! Wake up! You're delusional.

Can you show me the test results from the test of flying two airliners, full of fuel, into two towers constructed the same as The Twin Towers, with a clone of building 7 nearby? Can you show me those results? Until you can, you're guessing, fabricating, what happened. The building could have shoddy construction, who knows. No one has ever stood on the ground near a collapsing building the size of the Twin Towers and measured the tremor intensity, or anything else. You don't know, pal...and, neither do I. But, to just take wild guesses, and then make up conspiracy theories around that wild ass guessing, is just stupid. All this 9/11 conspiracy crap is just that...crap. No real proof, just fabrication, and wild ass guessing. Wake up.
Bullcrap! Wake up! You're delusional. br br Can... (show quote)


Just saying. When citizens blindly believe the stories fed to them by government leaders without questioning the facts and motives, they stand a good chance of losing freedoms and lives.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:17:52   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
What is so impossible about 19 Men with Box Cutters overtaking unarmed flight crews? This is a silly video.


There were only 3 or 4 hijackers on each flight. If you watched the topic video, opening the cockpit door registers on the flight recorder. The flight recorder for Flight 77 showed that the cockpit door had remained shut the entire flight to the Pentagon.
The alleged hijackers never entered the cockpit.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:23:44   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
I guess you didn't put much thought into it. No planes hit WTC 7 but over 200 Stories of Buildings collapses on and around it. The building was indeed on fire. Probably could have been put out on any normal day but the building was empty, The fire department had just lost 350 men and thousands of victims were buried under the rubble. Fire Hydrants were damaged or non existent and much of the NYC Fire equipment was destroyed.

But you dopes think they should have stopped what they were doing to save an empty building. Not a shred of common sense from the lot of you truthers.
I guess you didn't put much thought into it. No p... (show quote)


Barry Jennings who worked for the NYC emergency agency was inside WTC7 on the morning of 9/11. He testified about being trapped in the building because explosions had gutted the lower floors of WTC7 before either of the towers fell.
Listen to Jennings tell about it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr0TZa3WeI Jennings received death threats because of his testimony. He died of "unknown" causes at the age of 53.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:28:54   #
VladimirPee
 
Yes I much prefer to believe unknown internet sources and grainy You Tube video's posted by strangers


DASHY wrote:
Just saying. When citizens blindly believe the stories fed to them by government leaders without questioning the facts and motives, they stand a good chance of losing freedoms and lives.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:31:14   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
BinLaden interview with ABC news IN AFGHANISTAN 1998

Cave my ass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjXGOluWSR0


What a bullshit video. Unless you understand Arabic, you don't know what he said. Zionist controlled media hires liars to push their propaganda.



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Oct 16, 2015 16:35:13   #
VladimirPee
 
3.00 of this video they begin entering the lobby of WTC 7. They confirm everyone is out of the building. Mr Jennings is a liar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaalgkywjDw





payne1000 wrote:
Barry Jennings who worked for the NYC emergency agency was inside WTC7 on the morning of 9/11. He testified about being trapped in the building because explosions had gutted the lower floors of WTC7 before either of the towers fell.
Listen to Jennings tell about it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr0TZa3WeI Jennings received death threats because of his testimony. He died of "unknown" causes at the age of 53.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:42:30   #
VladimirPee
 
That plane did not have door sensors

Since the FDR was using data frame 757-3, the FDR was newer than the plane, equipped to record the cockpit door parameter when available, but was also backwards compatible so that it could be installed in older models, such as the AA77 plane, which didn't have the cockpit door sensor.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Cockpit_Door


payne1000 wrote:
There were only 3 or 4 hijackers on each flight. If you watched the topic video, opening the cockpit door registers on the flight recorder. The flight recorder for Flight 77 showed that the cockpit door had remained shut the entire flight to the Pentagon.
The alleged hijackers never entered the cockpit.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:43:25   #
VladimirPee
 
You don't have to understand. All you need to know is he was accessible to ABC and not in a cave


payne1000 wrote:
What a bullshit video. Unless you understand Arabic, you don't know what he said. Zionist controlled media hires liars to push their propaganda.

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Oct 16, 2015 16:46:45   #
payne1000
 
VladimirPee wrote:
3.00 of this video they begin entering the lobby of WTC 7. They confirm everyone is out of the building. Mr Jennings is a liar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaalgkywjDw


If they were inside WTC7 in your video where were the fires that brought the tower down?

Barry Jennings says he and another NYC official, a Mr. Hess, were trapped on the 8th floor. Firemen rescued them. Your video was most likely filmed after they were rescued.

Here's Barry Jennings being interviewed on the street right after his rescue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LO5V2CJpzI

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Oct 16, 2015 16:48:38   #
Neal
 
payne1000 wrote:
By obtaining the flight data recorders from Flight 77 through the Freedom of Information Act, Pilots are able to show how the government's conspiracy theory is impossible.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/skygate-911/


Another nonsense theory - all noise, accompanied by repeated waving of items VERY loosely referred to as "Data".

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Oct 16, 2015 16:57:29   #
payne1000
 
Neal wrote:
Another nonsense theory - all noise, accompanied by repeated waving of items VERY loosely referred to as "Data".


You're claiming it's nonsense but by not pointing out any specifics which are not valid in the video I would say you don't know anything about what the video reveals..

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