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Nov 2, 2013 23:06:50   #
Peggy Kirk
 
lone_ghost wrote:
It is called misinformation, most people have no idea what they are really voting for. The people, no matter what they may call themselves have all been mislead, some realize it, many do not. Forget political hype, we are Americans, and we only have two jobs. Protect each other, and protect our country above all else. We have allowed ourselves to be divided which means we are no longer capable of doing either. They (meaning those trying to destroy America) know the old adage, "you may be able to kick my ass, but you will not kick our ass." United we stand, divided we fall. What the hell are we right now?
It is called misinformation, most people have no i... (show quote)

"How's them Cowboys doin?"

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Nov 2, 2013 23:17:56   #
lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin
 
Whatamess wrote:
Thanks! I talk to people everyday about being more educated about what is happening in our country. I don't sugar coat it for them either, we have to make them think and start paying attention.


I do as well. The liberal establishment will be a tough customer to overcome, they are firmly entrenched and have no intention of going anywhere. They got that way through organization, and participation of their numbers. They are freaking smart. But these are not your neighbors, not your everyday people, they are highly skilled politicians that do this for a living. They are very skilled in misleading people with no regard for anything more than the advancement of their agenda. Your average person, the people you interact with every day are not the enemy, they simply have been mislead so your friend is not your enemy. The only enemy we have is our own government who is doing the misleading.

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Nov 2, 2013 23:18:40   #
Peggy Kirk
 
Peggy Kirk wrote:
"How's them Cowboys doin?"
There must have been a few people who read that article. Go to Press TV and you will see that Obama is not too popular with anyone right now. I doubt that he is considered intelligent enough to get that UN post. He has already fumbled the ball.

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Nov 3, 2013 00:43:54   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
lone_ghost wrote:
Not at all. I think if we start thinking like Americans instead of sheep we will come together and end this bullshit. The question is can we do that? The blame game needs to end, we are Americans and we need to do as we have in the past, come together to fight the common enemy so that America (us) survives. If we can do that, there is always hope.


It is all about. Do we really have faith in our ability to do the right thing?

Our voices just have to be heard over those that would lead us in to disarray.

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Nov 3, 2013 01:11:07   #
zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming
 
lone_ghost wrote:
I do as well. The liberal establishment will be a tough customer to overcome.


bULLSHIT IT'S A SHELL GAME AND THE CONSERVATIVES ARE JUST AS GUILTY. gUILTIER, BECAUSE THEY HOLD THE THINGS WE LOVE AGAINST US,b Sorry about the capslock

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Nov 3, 2013 08:14:28   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
lone_ghost wrote:
I do as well. The liberal establishment will be a tough customer to overcome, they are firmly entrenched and have no intention of going anywhere. They got that way through organization, and participation of their numbers. They are freaking smart. But these are not your neighbors, not your everyday people, they are highly skilled politicians that do this for a living. They are very skilled in misleading people with no regard for anything more than the advancement of their agenda. Your average person, the people you interact with every day are not the enemy, they simply have been mislead so your friend is not your enemy. The only enemy we have is our own government who is doing the misleading.
I do as well. The liberal establishment will be a ... (show quote)


Nice guille, ghost.

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Nov 3, 2013 08:36:05   #
astrolite
 
lone_ghost wrote:
There is one power that is not mentioned that still has the ability to change things. That is the American people. Unless you believe in manifest destiny which I do not, that is a defeatist attitude which is exactly what they want from us. There is only one way to overthrow America, from the inside. That is currently in the process of happening with out a doubt, but that does not mean it has to reach accomplishment. Our future is in our hands right now, not the governments. It is what we allow to happen that will determine our future, or lack thereof.
There is one power that is not mentioned that stil... (show quote)


Obama and the democrats are disarming us, we have found that Russia didn't honor the SALT agreements, but our democrat presidents knowingly disarmed us on schedule! And now Obama wants the rest of our nukes destroyed and the fissionable material buried and inaccessable! The communists in their guise of environmentalists want all of our manufacturing capability destroyed and illegal, starting with our energy supply! Then our agriculture system! Any lie will do, as they got control of our media and education system years ago! Now they want control of the power enforcement systems, ie: the IRS, EPA, and medical services! They are spying on all of us, the info is delivered to the democrats in power to use to blackmail or extort or destroy anyone standing in their way! Deny it? But now anyone can see it if their eyes are open!

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Nov 3, 2013 08:41:06   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
astrolite wrote:
Obama and the democrats are disarming us, we have found that Russia didn't honor the SALT agreements, but our democrat presidents knowingly disarmed us on schedule! And now Obama wants the rest of our nukes destroyed and the fissionable material buried and inaccessable! The communists in their guise of environmentalists want all of our manufacturing capability destroyed and illegal, starting with our energy supply! Then our agriculture system! Any lie will do, as they got control of our media and education system years ago! Now they want control of the power enforcement systems, ie: the IRS, EPA, and medical services! They are spying on all of us, the info is delivered to the democrats in power to use to blackmail or extort or destroy anyone standing in their way! Deny it? But now anyone can see it if their eyes are open!
Obama and the democrats are disarming us, we have ... (show quote)


The whole time I was growing up, our greatest threat was communism. Then it quit being talked about. But, it never went away. I am not saying the Muslims aren't a threat, but they aren't THE threat.

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Nov 3, 2013 09:40:36   #
zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming
 
claytonln wrote:
The whole time I was growing up, our greatest threat was communism. Then it quit being talked about. But, it never went away. I am not saying the Muslims aren't a threat, but they aren't THE threat.


Have you looked at Deerborne, MI lately? The threat is, and always will be intolerance for liberty.

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Nov 3, 2013 10:04:05   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
claytonln wrote:
The whole time I was growing up, our greatest threat was communism. Then it quit being talked about. But, it never went away. I am not saying the Muslims aren't a threat, but they aren't THE threat.


I say the greatest threat to our well being is from with in.

The effort by some to divide us is the area we need to look at.

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Nov 3, 2013 12:01:15   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I say the greatest threat to our well being is from with in.

The effort by some to divide us is the area we need to look at.


I would not dispute that. But, if people spoke about individual right instead of group right, we might not have that problem. As a whole, I believe the American people love liberty. But, when you have groups that speak out for group rights it undermines the individual liberties of every American.

And it also undermines the constitution. I am not sure that the constitution speaks of groups. But it does speak about individual sovereignty. The individual rights must be protected first and for most. If not we will lose all rights.

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Nov 3, 2013 12:08:23   #
claytonln Loc: Kansas
 
zonkedout1 wrote:
Have you looked at Deerborne, MI lately? The threat is, and always will be intolerance for liberty.


I understand what your saying. Look up The Muslim Brotherhood and who they stood with in World War II.

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Nov 3, 2013 15:23:17   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
claytonln wrote:
I would not dispute that. But, if people spoke about individual right instead of group right, we might not have that problem. As a whole, I believe the American people love liberty. But, when you have groups that speak out for group rights it undermines the individual liberties of every American.

And it also undermines the constitution. I am not sure that the constitution speaks of groups. But it does speak about individual sovereignty. The individual rights must be protected first and for most. If not we will lose all rights.
I would not dispute that. But, if people spoke abo... (show quote)


I think you need to rethink your bit about individual & group rights. If you could restate what you mean a little better it would help clear things up on just what you mean.

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Nov 3, 2013 15:32:45   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
Peggy Kirk wrote:
Wait till they get all that "Pot" legalized and then we'll up and take back our country.


Are we approaching the end of days? Is Obama the antichrist? His is the great deceiver being neither Christian or Muslim but pretending to be both depending on his audience.

But I believe not all is lost but to win back our freedom and liberate ourselves from the bondage of their lies we must use every means at our disposal to educate people to the truth.

This is a battle not only for ourselves but for all people who wish to be free. We must fight this battle by their rules continuously do audacious things keeping our adversaries off balance and being unrelentless in our attack upon their weaknesses.

But time is short and the battle plan must be put into place now if we are to stop him from achieving his goals.

He has everyone running scared he has attacked the media on several fronts and I think it's ripe for us to take it back and turn it against him.

He threatens everyone to comply with his agenda or they will be punished.I believe we can get states to flex their constitutional muscle and stop letting him tell them not to uphold the laws of the land.

Businesses are afraid of his Chicago style of blackmail give us money or we will use everything at our disposal to destroy you, your company and your families.

And then there is the military who he gutted and fired all of those who don't follow him and his agenda.

We have the disenfranchised of the middle class, the media, businesses, the military and individual states and states rights ripe for us to enlist in our struggle against a common enemy.

Yes their is hope

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Nov 3, 2013 15:54:54   #
othWill
 
The lies of the luciferian elite, whatever name you call them by, were so well packaged, championed, and advanced that the time for the repair of this nation and I believe, the continuance of this age on earth are gone, irretrievably. The most that Christian people can do in the time this country has left is to pray for the safety and protection of our eternal souls of all Christians and the conversion of the lost. Each empire in the past has in it's death throes, been run in an almost unbelievably cruel and tyrannical way. At this time, the hatred of Christ and his followers is so great and pervasive that Christ's warning not to cast pearls before swine is the best order of our time. I'm very sorry to say this AuntiE, but I don't see any other outcome but the beast to come on the scene soon and complete God's plan. The time to fix this and retake our great country was lost in the mid to late 1960's. When the generation that saved the world, passed the torch to the dead-soul boomers, we were lost. God help us all. I am ashamed of and afraid for my generation. We ruined the hope of the world.

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