Big Bass

:shock: :D

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

You got that right. Obama is a child. Wait till you see the next load of democratic shit in the future

Big Bass

I can't wait. ( :roll: )

vernon

he is my pope but he is absolutely wrong coming over here and talking politics.

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

Absolutely correct! As a politician, he would fail...and that's pretty rough considering he is the Pope

vernon

i thought this would happen.he is from Argentina and its nothing but acommunist state.have you seen the pictures of the slums there,its enough for all these libs to have a wet dream over.im sure they would just love it over there.

J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

I see the typical "derp" here...never had a problem with any pope before this one saying whatever he wanted wherever he wanted, as long as you agreed wiith him. Now this pope is "too liberal" (yeah right), they say, a "Marxist"(horseshit). Buncha nonsense. So when's the next book-burning rally? Deny any children life-saving medication because of your religious beliefs lately? Adopt any orphans and manage not to beat or molest them?
You folks are big fat hypocrites. Here, I'll spell it out for you in case it isn't clear enough- H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S.

Gracesandagato

I like that pope meets dope. But we have put up with dope. Dope does not belong in white house.

Big Bass

As is anyone affiliated with any religion.

interestedparty

1.5 billion Catholics. I was raised one--altar boy at 9 years old. Commentator through high school. Weekends at the monastery with young acolytes being trained for priesthood as my family wanted me to follow in that path: Then, I studied different religions, history of how the Catholic Church formed its religious socio-politico oligarch hierarchy based on the "Babylonian Mysteries"-- eventually; came to many conclusions. One very important being: No 'man' is infallible...Infallibility comes from the people who give it to any one person. Whether it be the Pope--the Dali Lama or any one else. Giving 'infallibility' to another whether it be in the arena of spiritual dictates or whatever as you can see eventually spills over to the social and political arenas... In studying the 'early church'--Marx took from their example of helping one another in sharing possessions, lands, currency, clothing, etc. and spin it into a "socialistic governmental system" in order to control others. Socialism doesn't work...look at Greece and any number of the European countries. There is no Utopia through Socialism. I have no Pope--I respect authority--I respect Divine Authority, But any one-man who claims and accepts infallibility from others, as far as I am concerned, is 'not' a Divine Extension of True Authority...It is man-made religion...putting 'man' on a throne of egoism. I refuse to give my mind over to 'any' person or government that promulgates itself as being infallible. Again, remember--the only "Power of Infallibility" comes from the people who give their 'own' energies to it. In so doing they relinquish 'that much' of their 'free-will', I.e. to whatever level or measure they are aware of and walk in it. Yes, Bob Dylan sang: "You gotta serve-somebody"--that's true, but there is a difference in a spiritual system where there are parameters that allow room for rational disagreement; questioning and confirmation among a common consensus of spiritual and knowledge people rather than just blindly giving over to one person's dictate, as where the 'common consensus' such as, cardinals, bishops, priests, etc. give into that infallibility and to extend it to the innocent,sincere and faithful followers (blind leading the blind)...There have been a number of so-called, self-proclaimed 'religious' leaders who promulgated their infallibility as some kind of Divine appointment. Mass consciousness in agreement only makes infallibility a reality--which is a 'real-lie-ty. Yes, Bob Dylan sang his song and Christ, Yeshua came along and said: "Call no 'man' Father, for there is only 'one' Father--and He is in heaven..." "I go to My Father and 'your' Father..." Get It? In Christ's viewpoint which would be considered 'authoritative' by spiritual seekers in Christianity, is; that we all come from the same Father. Regardless of there being 'Spiritual Father's as representatives' in regards to religious institutions--that doesn't mean those 'spiritual father's' whether Catholic or any other religious or spiritual belief system has the 'corner' on infallibility. That's the difference between hierarchal-oligarchies and Divine Order. Hierarchy (man's order) utilizes the 'concept' of Spiritual Fatherhood to further the infallibility of ONE person--of which; not to follow---results in 'anathema' or 'excommunication' - 'ostracizing' ,etc. furthermore; for the hierarchal Supreme Pontiff to dictate 'control' of their masses; while Divine Order integrates the 'rule of father-shepherds' to bring the people to a state of spiritual maturity and consciousness. A true "Apostle or Prophet' is able to bring forth fruit that even out-shines and out-grows that 'Apostles' or Prophet's ministry...where hierarchy stifles and inhibits and protracts growth in order to keep the status quo for 'control'...Ask yourself: Who is the 'true mediator' between you and the divine? I apologize 'somewhat' for getting a bit 'preachy'--but it seemed necessary in that the Pope has decided to spill over his 'limited' Church authority to the arena of politics...by doing this however, at least the Globalist agendas are going to be exposed which means that there will be those in this country who will not give themselves to giving up their freedom and will work 'together' - truly united to rise up over the Globalist egoistic intentions that might look good on the surface--"Sheep in wolves' clothing"---Well, as the parable narrates: the 'wheat and the tares (darnel--which means: wheat-like) grow together until the time when the tares are bundled for the consumption by 'fire' (negative karmic repercussions)--while the 'wheat' are gathered into the Divine's storehouse (heart) for further liberty and freedom and reaping the Divine accouterments. It's so hopeful to read some of these commentaries where people of discernment like yourselves have the integrity and grit to speak their minds and be objective in assessing the egoists, regardless of how they present themselves in the ceremony garb in the spotlight of innocent hearts and minds, while speaking forth their ulterior agendas amongst all the glitter and glitz -- yet, through Maya; for control of the masses. It is written of the Christ Consciousness: "For freedom sake you have been set free. Therefore, do not use your freedom for the indulgence of fleshly gain (egoistic desires to be fulfilled)...but, in love encourage and support one another in the things that are beneficial to the true Christ-Body of believers and spiritual knowers..." paraphrased. Even the Wolf knows how to quote spiritual scriptural writings...don't forget that...However; "You will know them by their fruits..." Best to you all!

evesin0207

Vernon - I too am Roman Catholic, was born and raised as such. I attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Days. I may not like Pope Francis's liberal views but how can you denounce the Pope. In doing so you are denouncing St. Peter, Jesus Our Lord and Savior, and GOD himself. Pope Francis is GOD's messenger on Earth and disrespecting him is disrespecting GOD. Did you flunk out of the Seminary and are bitter? You have severe problems when it comes to the Holy Catholic Church and need to stop representing yourself as a true Catholic because YOU ARE NOT!

vernon

who are you to judge me?he is a man raised in one of the most corrupt countries in the world and it had to affect his thinking.popes are not god and not perfect and dont forget it.

interestedparty

The 'very' - 'very' short version: To the Catholic-the Pope is the incarnation of Peter's spirit as the Vicar of Christ...to Biblical Scripture--the Christ-Body of Believers IS the incarnation of the Very Spirit of Christ and 'all' the members of the Christ-Body of Believers 'are' the Vicar of Christ...Christ 'not' divided. BTW: the Scripture in Matthew does 'not' state that Peter was the first Pope--the discourse did 'not' take place at the Vatican in Rome amongst the Pillars that Bernini architected. It took place just outside of Jerusalem...If you truly understood Greek--you would know that Christ did not elect any one 'man' to be His Vicar...The Scriptures in Matthew where Christ asked: "Who do they say I AM..." in the Greek blatantly reveal what is being stated here as being true. Christ gave the 'keys' to Simon Peter, but that was only a part of what Christ was revealing in the way of His true Ecclesia...It was not to be based on any 'man' but on a certain process which He clearly outlined, and which can be accurately presented in the Matthew Scripture. Actually, if you know your church history: The first Bishop was Christ's biological and spiritual brother, James. The term "Pope" wasn't used until about 300 years later. Plus, it should be noted that Christ did and does not found His Church/Ecclesia on man's in-congruencies and disparities, I.e. Peter denied Christ three times, that's why Christ after the resurrection confronted Peter on Peter's love for Him. After Christ was crucified, Peter said: "This is over with I am going fishing". Peter also was rebuked by another disciple in that Peter was portraying a double-standard (hypocrisy) with new believers in 'offering meat to idols'--. No, Christ was founding His True Church on a process of revelation which is revealed in the Matthew Scriptures. If you would like a lecture on this entire subject. Just email me: glialcom@outlook.com, and I will forward it to you for your perusal. You 'must' understand the Greek in order to see how the Catholic Church has misinterpreted the specific Scriptures in Matthew. Peter, 'after' the day of Pentecost, then, became a true disciple and laborer for the Lord--In fact; it wasn't until Pentecost that 'all' the apostles and disciples really became anointed in the Christ authority...Peter had the very human quality of always sticking his foot in his mouth...Again, this is pointed out in Matthew...I am not attacking your 'programmed' and 'conditioned' Catholic upbringing--I am just presenting the Scriptural fact and revelation...If you are not a student of the Bible--you may only receive a mental assent/ascent to this truth in what I am presenting here or if you are interested in perusing my lecture...There is a difference between mental assent to Truth and having Truth imparted via the Holy Spirit. I have brought this to the attention of Priests who have agreed with me, while others in defense of their belief system and programming have termed me a heretic...But, the Scripture through the Greek plainly disables the concept of Christ anointing Peter as the first Pope in the Matthew Scriptures. In fact, Christ said of James, His brother. "Go to James for council and authority--because heaven and earth were created 'for' him..." When Rabbi, St. Paul was being privately instructed by the Christ through visitations and revelations for more than 14 years, he wrote: "And, after 14 years, I went up to Jerusalem and consulted (submitted my revelations) to James and the other apostles, so as to make sure I was not running my ministry in vain..." The True Vicars of Christ are the individual members of His Christ-Bride Body--no one 'man' is to replace Christ even as His authoritative extension on the earth. St. Paul in Eph. 4: 9 through the rest of the chapter clearly outlines the Church model and purpose of the Christ-Bride Body--as being the True Vicar of Christ. Christ is 'not' divided--the extension of His very nature is in the individual members of His Bride-Body...St Paul said: "it is Christ 'IN' you that is the hope of glory...For me to live 'IS' Christ and the life I live I live by faith in the Son of God 'IN' me..." and 'in' all of the members of the True Bride of Christ. St. Paul also said: "I labor to present every one perfect in Christ--I labor abundantly so that Christ is formed IN you..." Where Christ walked the earth in the vessel of Yeshua one with Yeshua as the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form, He now walks His nature/spirit in the many-member body of His Christ-Bride...He is coming to be glorified 'in' His saints (holy ones) and admired by all of those who believe"---II Thess. 1:10. He is not just coming in 'one' person...He is already present as the Parousia (Presence) in each and every one of His Christ-Bride. In the Bible God declares each one of the Christ-Bride as a Saint--God doesn't need human institutions to declare saint-hood--He already declared it in the Bible as each of His believers are 'saints' -Holy Ones...In all probability you have not been instructed in true Biblical teaching and taking the Bible in its teaching utilizing the Aramaic and the Greek. Until you truly understand the Greek--especially as it relates to what I mentioned in Matthew and in Ephesians chapter 4 vs. 9 onward to the end of the chapter you will not have the gnosis-revelation of what is being depicted. Also, would recommend studying I Cor. 2 (entire chapter) I Cor. 12 (entire chapter) and I Cor. 14 (entire chapter). I can respect any spiritual leader without putting that one on any throne, especially the throne of my heart. You see, the true revelation is that Christ is NOW and has been since the resurrection and ascension: A many-member Body. I Cor. 12: 12 states this (and of which you may want to objectively pray about): "As the Body of Christ is made up of many members and is 'one' Body...SO ALSO 'IS' CHRIST..." I Cor. 12: 12. Understanding this you will then have a clear picture and discovered the true meaning of the Christ-Bride-Body that puts no 'person' on a throne...because we are 'all' as the Body of Christ on the throne. It is written: "For we are all seated 'with' Christ in heavenly places..." It is also written: "Christ is seated at the right hand of the Heavenly Father..." And, "That we live and move and have our being in Him as He lives and moves and has His being in us..." That means since we are all seated with Christ who is at the right hand of the Heavenly Father; that in our One-ness with Christ, we are too are seated at the right hand of God. In other words, it is not meant for any one 'person' to receive the glory...God alone receives the glory and therefore no 'person' is to be put on any earthly throne as the only Vicar of Christ. In fact, the Scriptures states: That heaven is God's throne and earth is His footstool..." Yes, there are authoritative extensions of Christ in the earth...this is outlined in Eph. 4:9, but that is pointing to a 'collective-five-fold-authoritative' spiritual government that is 'not' a hierarchy. It is humble authorities collectively moving together as a living organism to bring all of the Christ-Bride-Body together in maturity as the Christ-Man in the earth...Not any single individual, alone. The single enthronement of any one person belongs to man-made church age consciousness. "Where, today Christ as the Kingdom Age Consciousness as coming forth within each member of His true Body is a 'many-member Body'...This is teaching you do not learn in Catholic Seminary or C-Church services, etc. This is why Martin Luther said: "The Just shall live by faith.." For his faith, Luther was excommunicated. Albeit, The C-Church has much to offer in their libraries as far as ancient scrolls are concerned...if you take what is mentioned here as far as the Spiritual Government; that Christ set up, you will notice via Paul's writings in Eph. that Christ IS a many-member Body of which each member is to operate in the Christ-Nature maturing the Mind of Christ in each one so that each individual member is the Vicar/representative of Christ in the earth as they walk in the Fruit of the Spirit outlined in Galatians 5:22-23. There is no one person who is to walk the walk for you or for any one else. Each must have his own intimate relationship and walk with the ONE. I cannot walk your walk and you cannot walk mine. To put any one person on the throne as the 'only' mediator between man and God is false. The true mediator is the Christ within each individual of the Christ-Bride Body...The Inner Christ as St. Paul stated is the Priest of Priests, the Vicar of vicars that mediates for you. In fact Apostle John "The Beloved" said that Christ now ever lives to make intercession for us..." He is our judge, our advocate and our Priestly-Vicar mediator and the Scriptures also state that 'we' as His Christ-Bride-Body are of the Priesthood of Melchezedek, and of which Christ IS...Christ came not only to remove 'sin' but to re-establish individual relationship 'directly' through Him to the Heavenly Father... If you truly believe and have come to the gnosis (knowing) that the Holy Spirit is not just 'with' you, but 'in' you, and that the Spirit of Christ-His very Nature is in you, then you will realize that you need no other 'man' or 'women' to be your mediator...that is unless you choose it to be so. Yes, as the Scriptures state in the Book of Hebrews; "We are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses" Which can be termed in communing with them--in Catholic terms "the Communion of the saints" And, it is true 'you' can have visitations with them through dreams and the realm of spirit (too much to go into here)--Yet, you do not necessarily 'need' too because the Christ Spirit in us is the hope of glory and for us to live is by faith in the Son of God that is in us as The Mind/Nature of Christ. In Catholicism we were taught that only the Priest could be our mediator...In the Bible this is not stated. It is a matter of Catholic doctrine and dogma--not Biblical Scripture. So where you stand is what you 'choose' to believe...whether that be the doctrine and dogmas you were raised up in as far as Catholicism is concerned or whether you have been enlightened through Biblical Scripture and other Holy Writings. The Pope does not speak for me...nor, does he represent my salvation--nor do I consider him my personal mediator in having a relationship to God. I go directly to My Heavenly Father because my human spirit has been breathed upon by the Holy Spirit and quickened to be the sanctuary for the Christ Spirit to take up residency. I have communion directly with the Heavenly Father-Mother God as the ONE through the Christ Spirit that indwells me. As it is written: "It is God at work 'in' you to will and to do of "His" great pleasure. And, His great pleasure is to give you the Kingdom..." St. Paul also went on to say: "Do you not yet know (have gnosis) that you body is the temple of the Holy Spirit and God dwells IN you?" You see, if you haven't been taught the Scriptures, then you find that you end up believing what you have been programmed to believe through dogmatic authorities. In fact, the one requirement of becoming a Catholic is to renounce the Bible for the dictates-writings-catechism of the Catholic Church...I choose the Holy Scriptures of which the Holy Spirit opens the door for me to have direct access to Christ and the Holy Spirit...This is the grace God has bestowed on me. In fact, Christ said: "In that day (the day one has the revelation/ true gnosis and experience of it and accepts it in his heart) My Father and I will come and make 'our' abode 'in' you..." You see, if one claims to be the Vicar of Christ, then that one would be teaching you these things--again, study Eph. 4:9 onward through the end of the chapter. If one claims the 'only' Vicar of Christ then one is denying what the true model of the spiritual governmental Christ-Body IS, but, again that is according to Biblical Scripture of which it is required of you as a Catholic to put 'under' the teachings of the C-Church...My denial of any one person as being the only Vicar of Christ is based on Biblical Scriptures that clearly state that all the members of the Christ-Bride-Body are the 'extension-representatives' of Christ--Christ 'is' a many-member Body. In fact Rabbi, St. Paul went on to say in regards to the Christ-Bride-Body relating to one another: "Even though we have known Christ after the flesh (I.e. in physical form)--we know Him as such 'no-longer'--In fact, we are not to know one another after the flesh, but according to the Christ Spirit/Nature in one another..." You see, this way the ground is all level without man ruling over man in a dictatorial way. You want to see Christ, then start praying for a revelation of the Christ in your neighbor--in your brethren. Christ is really where you discover Him...I will take the revelation inherent in the teachings of the Scriptures any day before I will acknowledge man's hierarchal order mimicking the true model of spiritual government Christ set up that Paul stated in Eph. 4:9. This the 'free-will' choice I make. Therefore, I am 'not' attacking the C-Church or its miss-applied doctrinal structure and physiology--I 'am' contrasting the Scriptures however. If you are going to mature spiritually, then at least give yourself to objective inquiry for assessing Truth. Rabbi, St. Paul also said: "The spiritual person judges/assess all things. Yet, is judged by no one..." He also went on to say: "The natural (soulish is the word used in the literal Greek concordant) man understands nothing of the Spirit for the things of Spirit are spiritually discerned...." St. Paul said there were basically three levels of spiritual maturity in the Church: 1.) the carnal Christian who is undisciplined and goes after the things of self-indulgence as their priority. 2.) the soulish of which he termed the psychical. 3.) the Punematics the truly spiritual one's. Many in Churchianity fall into the #2 category...The Scriptures also state: "Study to show yourself approved of the Holy Spirit." So, you see there is much more to having a personal intimate relationship with the Divine, than letting others walk your walk 'for' you and you just going along without any discernment in your own heart and mind...I have a number of Catholic acquaintances that I relate to...they include C-Priests...

evesin0207

Vernon - I don't judge, GOD makes all the judgements. You, sir, I find difficult to believe are Christian any longer. Somewhere down the line you decided you know better than all the Religious Theologens on the planet. Yes Pope Francis comes from Argentina where poverty is prevalent and drugs and corrupt government exists but what does that have to do with the Pope. We may not like many of the fiery points he made but he is sincere in the changes our world needs to heal itself and for many "fallen Catholics" to come back to their faith. Ask GOD's forgiveness for denigrating Pope Francis and you may still have a chance to be chosen in the Rapture.

vernon