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Sep 19, 2015 14:52:10   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
payne1000 wrote:
I don't bash America. I bash the leaders on Capitol Hill who the Zionists have installed to lead the American people to ruin.

Michael Sheurer, former CIA officer, tells how much a friend Israel is to the U.S.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl1JnQoIWQ


Look payne, you can quote, state your opinion,and make intelligent statements , but when you threaten America,, I will not be intemidated nor will I ever back down, you belive what you will, I will belive what I will ,,, lets hope we never cross paths, have a good life or a short one, your choice,, recon, semper fi!! by the way I'm the one on the far right of your screen, you do not want to meet the others!!

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Sep 19, 2015 16:16:25   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
Look payne, you can quote, state your opinion,and make intelligent statements , but when you threaten America,, I will not be intemidated nor will I ever back down, you belive what you will, I will belive what I will ,,, lets hope we never cross paths, have a good life or a short one, your choice,, recon, semper fi!! by the way I'm the one on the far right of your screen, you do not want to meet the others!!


Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which implicates Zionists and Israel as being accomplices in the 9/11 false flag operation:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI

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Sep 19, 2015 16:23:14   #
payne1000
 
Zemirah wrote:
The very concept of a "Hasbara Troll" is the mythical, but nonexistent invention of an overheated imagination.


Hasbara trolls are mythical? Only in the demented mind of a Hasbara Troll.

Check out what Hasbara trolls have been doing on the internet:

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/hasbara-spewing-semitism

http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html

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Sep 19, 2015 16:26:53   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
Look payne, you can quote, state your opinion,and make intelligent statements , but when you threaten America,, I will not be intemidated nor will I ever back down, you belive what you will, I will belive what I will ,,, lets hope we never cross paths, have a good life or a short one, your choice,, recon, semper fi!! by the way I'm the one on the far right of your screen, you do not want to meet the others!!


I'm not threatening America by exposing the truth.
My evidence and information threatens Israel and Zionism.
That's why you're threatening me.
Are you a Hasbarat?



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Sep 19, 2015 17:42:16   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I have a neocom cousin that is a senior fellow at the Hudson think tank. We disagree about almost everything. He was Stockman' council which was a policy making position in Reagon's administration. He was and is a true believer in conservatism. While I disagree with him on many issues, I have no doubt that he really believes in his ideology.
payne1000 wrote:
"Exclusive: Despite a record of unprecedented error, American neocons remain the dominant foreign policy force in Official Washington, demanding more “regime change” in the Middle East and a new Cold War that could heat up and end all life on the planet, writes Robert Parry."

By Robert Parry

The neoconservatives arguably have damaged American national interests more than any group in modern history. They have done more harm than the marginal Communists pursued by Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s, more than the Yippies of the 1960s, more than Richard Nixon’s Watergate burglars in the 1970s or the Iran-Contra conspirators in the 1980s.

The neocons have plunged the U.S. government into extraordinarily ill-considered wars wasting trillions of dollars, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, and destabilizing large swaths of the planet including the Middle East, much of Africa and now Europe. Those costs include a swelling hatred against America and a deformed U.S. foreign policy elite that is no longer capable of formulating coherent strategies.
Jackson Diehl, deputy editorial page editor of the Washington Post.

Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washington’s major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their “liberal interventionist” pals have the ear of President Barack Obama.

Clearly, the neocons are skilled operatives, knowing how to arrange a steady stream of funding for themselves, from military contractors donating to think tanks, from U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, and from ideological billionaires set on aligning U.S. foreign policy with hard-line Israeli desires.

The neocons are adept at writing op-ed articles that twist any set of facts into support for their ideological cause; they supply just the right quote that fits into the news cycle’s latest narrative; and they host policy conferences that attract powerful politicians and fawning media coverage.

But are the neocons a force that can coexist with the American Republic? Have they become an existential threat not only to the constitutional structure crafted in 1787 but to continued life on the planet? Are they locked on a course of action that could lead to a nuclear holocaust?"

Read more . . . http://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/15/are-neocons-an-existential-threat/

Readers should be aware that Neoconservatives are also Zionists.
i "Exclusive: Despite a record of unpreceden... (show quote)

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Sep 19, 2015 18:02:43   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which implicates Zionists and Israel as being accomplices in the 9/11 false flag operation:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which impl... (show quote)


I asked you before and I ask you again, what foreign countries do you favor? You bash Israel so you must favor her enemies!!!! Answer if you dare!!!!!!!!

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Sep 19, 2015 18:54:51   #
payne1000
 
son of witless wrote:
I asked you before and I ask you again, what foreign countries do you favor? You bash Israel so you must favor her enemies!!!! Answer if you dare!!!!!!!!


From your reply, I assume you can't refute any of the evidence against Israel.

You and others here can't seem to get it through your thick skulls that if Israel was an accomplice in the 9/11 attacks then Israel is not our ally. Israel is instead one of our worst enemies.

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Sep 19, 2015 19:55:57   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
From your reply, I assume you can't refute any of the evidence against Israel.

You and others here can't seem to get it through your thick skulls that if Israel was an accomplice in the 9/11 attacks then Israel is not our ally. Israel is instead one of our worst enemies.



I'm sorry. I di----int bother even looking at those links you call evidence. If I decided it was worth my valuable time I might be able to refute it, but if these were true hows come I never heard of them before?

I am sick and tired of going out of my way to provide proof of what I say while you left wingers skate in these conversations.

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Sep 20, 2015 01:28:52   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
payne1000 wrote:
Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which implicates Zionists and Israel as being accomplices in the 9/11 false flag operation:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which impl... (show quote)


mabe you would like to state what you belive , not what others claim!!

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Sep 20, 2015 01:44:06   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
son of witless wrote:
I'm sorry. I di----int bother even looking at those links you call evidence. If I decided it was worth my valuable time I might be able to refute it, but if these were true hows come I never heard of them before?

I am sick and tired of going out of my way to provide proof of what I say while you left wingers skate in these conversations.


YES

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Sep 20, 2015 06:26:43   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
mabe you would like to state what you belive , not what others claim!!


I believe the evidence against Israel.

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Sep 20, 2015 06:30:43   #
payne1000
 
son of witless wrote:
I'm sorry. I di----int bother even looking at those links you call evidence. If I decided it was worth my valuable time I might be able to refute it, but if these were true hows come I never heard of them before?

I am sick and tired of going out of my way to provide proof of what I say while you left wingers skate in these conversations.


If you've never heard of the evidence before, it's because the Zionist owned media censors all truth about 9/11. The reason Zionists have acquired ownership of all six major U.S. media corporations is so they can suppress all truth about Zionism and Israel.

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Sep 20, 2015 07:48:09   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
If you've never heard of the evidence before, it's because the Zionist owned media censors all truth about 9/11. The reason Zionists have acquired ownership of all six major U.S. media corporations is so they can suppress all truth about Zionism and Israel.


Okay I will bite. What exactly are you alleging with Silverstein? I have read some but , not all of the links. He tried to collect twice on the insurance?

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Sep 20, 2015 09:52:47   #
payne1000
 
son of witless wrote:
Okay I will bite. What exactly are you alleging with Silverstein? I have read some but , not all of the links. He tried to collect twice on the insurance?


Silverstein controlled access to all three towers which were blown up on 9/11. Before Silverstein, the towers were controlled by Zionists who ran the NYC Port Authority. The explosives were planted in the Towers during Silverstein or the Port Authority's control of access. The fact that Silverstein tried to collect twice on insurance demonstrates how greedy Silverstein is.
The fact that Silverstein and his son and daughter did not show up to work in the towers on 9/11 indicates they either knew or were warned the buildings were to be exploded that day.

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Sep 20, 2015 10:17:27   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Payne, There is no need to refute what you post. The evidence is all well established. Your accusations are ludicrous.If you posted evidence that little green men are responsible for the last recession, I would ignore it as well. As long as you post such stupid lies from unreliable sources or interpret everything about Israel, Zionists or Jews in the worst possible scenario, to support your unfounded, racist, absurd, pro terrorist views, there is no need to disprove your posts. They disprove your views all by them selves!!lies
payne1000 wrote:
From your reply, I assume you can't refute any of the evidence against Israel.

You and others here can't seem to get it through your thick skulls that if Israel was an accomplice in the 9/11 attacks then Israel is not our ally. Israel is instead one of our worst enemies.

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