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Sep 16, 2015 15:24:20   #
payne1000
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
You don't have to think on your own since you are programmed what to think and say.


I think outside the box and that's what bothers you the most isn't it, PG.
All you're interested in is falsely demonizing Muslims and protecting Mother Israel.

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Sep 16, 2015 16:07:01   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
payne1000 wrote:
I think outside the box and that's what bothers you the most isn't it, PG.
All you're interested in is falsely demonizing Muslims and protecting Mother Israel.


As I previously stated, you are programmed what to say and think. But that is quite true for all Jew-hating Muslim lovers.

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Sep 16, 2015 16:17:25   #
payne1000
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
As I previously stated, you are programmed what to say and think. But that is quite true for all Jew-hating Muslim lovers.


That's Zionist--not Jew.
I have the greatest respect for Jews who don't worship the new Nazism.



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Sep 16, 2015 16:58:36   #
Liberty Tree
 
payne1000 wrote:
Truth is my agenda.

When I'm attacked by a person who insults rather than comment on the topic, that is the MO of a troll.

When that same perp continues to try to convert anti-zionism to anti-jew, that reinforces my judgement.


Another master at accusing others of what they do themselves and denying what they are by hiding behind different terminology.

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Sep 16, 2015 17:01:32   #
payne1000
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Another master at accusing others of what they do themselves and denying what they are by hiding behind different terminology.


I've often admitted that I am a troll for truth.
Trolling for truth is a lot different than what you are doing.

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Sep 17, 2015 09:06:41   #
sissymary
 
If your a dual Israel & American citizen who works in Americas government, who is trying to do what is good for Israel to the detriment of America, (getting us into wars we should not be in)(fighting Israels wars for them) etc. Then you are a Zionist, period. And a neocon. Stating facts about neocons/Zionist does not make you an anti Semite, or a Jew hater. payne1000 is just exposing the truth. Try debating him sometime retards. Discuss the issues, try to counter some of his key points for crying out loud. Insulting him only debases your intelligence. And proves you can not refute anything he says because he has solidified his statements with facts and often information published by Jews and such ilk, often written by themselves. How long would you last in a high school debate competition if you started hurling insults at the competing debate team?

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Sep 17, 2015 09:56:59   #
payne1000
 
sissymary wrote:
If your a dual Israel & American citizen who works in Americas government, who is trying to do what is good for Israel to the detriment of America, (getting us into wars we should not be in)(fighting Israels wars for them) etc. Then you are a Zionist, period. And a neocon. Stating facts about neocons/Zionist does not make you an anti Semite, or a Jew hater. payne1000 is just exposing the truth. Try debating him sometime retards. Discuss the issues, try to counter some of his key points for crying out loud. Insulting him only debases your intelligence. And proves you can not refute anything he says because he has solidified his statements with facts and often information published by Jews and such ilk, often written by themselves. How long would you last in a high school debate competition if you started hurling insults at the competing debate team?
If your a dual Israel & American citizen who w... (show quote)


They won't debate, Sissymary. They know they can't defend the treason of Zionists in this country and the Zionist terrorists who reside in Israel and elsewhere. If they attempt debate that allows more truth to be told. Truth is their worst enemy.

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Sep 18, 2015 11:19:32   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
sissymary wrote:
If your a dual Israel & American citizen who works in Americas government, who is trying to do what is good for Israel to the detriment of America, (getting us into wars we should not be in)(fighting Israels wars for them) etc. Then you are a Zionist, period. And a neocon. Stating facts about neocons/Zionist does not make you an anti Semite, or a Jew hater. payne1000 is just exposing the truth. Try debating him sometime retards. Discuss the issues, try to counter some of his key points for crying out loud. Insulting him only debases your intelligence. And proves you can not refute anything he says because he has solidified his statements with facts and often information published by Jews and such ilk, often written by themselves. How long would you last in a high school debate competition if you started hurling insults at the competing debate team?
If your a dual Israel & American citizen who w... (show quote)


Yes there are things out there that point to a cover up of things.

It is not so important to impart blame on what has been done in the past but to see what has been done & is being done so as we move forward we can have a clearer view of what & how actions are taking place.

For the most part I would like to say live & let live.

But I don't want to clean up messes some one else makes & expects me to pay for.

That is why I view Zionism as a problem.

I don't view it as a Jewish problem.

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Sep 18, 2015 21:42:21   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Exclusive: Despite a record of unprecedented error, American neocons remain the dominant foreign policy force in Official Washington, demanding more “regime change” in the Middle East and a new Cold War that could heat up and end all life on the planet, writes Robert Parry."

By Robert Parry

The neoconservatives arguably have damaged American national interests more than any group in modern history. They have done more harm than the marginal Communists pursued by Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s, more than the Yippies of the 1960s, more than Richard Nixon’s Watergate burglars in the 1970s or the Iran-Contra conspirators in the 1980s.

The neocons have plunged the U.S. government into extraordinarily ill-considered wars wasting trillions of dollars, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, and destabilizing large swaths of the planet including the Middle East, much of Africa and now Europe. Those costs include a swelling hatred against America and a deformed U.S. foreign policy elite that is no longer capable of formulating coherent strategies.
Jackson Diehl, deputy editorial page editor of the Washington Post.

Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washington’s major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their “liberal interventionist” pals have the ear of President Barack Obama.

Clearly, the neocons are skilled operatives, knowing how to arrange a steady stream of funding for themselves, from military contractors donating to think tanks, from U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, and from ideological billionaires set on aligning U.S. foreign policy with hard-line Israeli desires.

The neocons are adept at writing op-ed articles that twist any set of facts into support for their ideological cause; they supply just the right quote that fits into the news cycle’s latest narrative; and they host policy conferences that attract powerful politicians and fawning media coverage.

But are the neocons a force that can coexist with the American Republic? Have they become an existential threat not only to the constitutional structure crafted in 1787 but to continued life on the planet? Are they locked on a course of action that could lead to a nuclear holocaust?"

Read more . . . http://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/15/are-neocons-an-existential-threat/

Readers should be aware that Neoconservatives are also Zionists.
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This whole statement is nonsense, however some parts stand apart for pure idiocy.


" Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washington’s major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their “liberal interventionist” pals have the ear of President Barack Obama. "

They dominate the op-ed pages of the Wash. Post and the NYTimes? Liberal interventionists? the ear of Obama? WTF are you speaking of??????

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Sep 19, 2015 09:07:06   #
payne1000
 
son of witless wrote:
This whole statement is nonsense, however some parts stand apart for pure idiocy.


" Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washington’s major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their “liberal interventionist” pals have the ear of President Barack Obama. "

They dominate the op-ed pages of the Wash. Post and the NYTimes? Liberal interventionists? the ear of Obama? WTF are you speaking of??????
This whole statement is nonsense, however some par... (show quote)


Jackson Diehl, of the Washington Post, is a neocon. So is David Brooks of the NY Times. There are many more neocons who write oped for these papers. Both papers are Jewish owned and constantly carry op-eds promoting war with Iran.

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Sep 19, 2015 09:40:58   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
payne1000 wrote:
I think outside the box and that's what bothers you the most isn't it, PG.
All you're interested in is falsely demonizing Muslims and protecting Mother Israel.


Demonizing muslims: you mean those who shout death to America / Israel , who's koran spell's out how to enslave any who oppose or will not convert to Islaim ,, YEA count me in on the fight , you bastards want a fight , you wll be out of payne (pain) soon enough , does that make me a threat to you , you damn right it does !!!

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Sep 19, 2015 09:42:15   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
Jackson Diehl, of the Washington Post, is a neocon. So is David Brooks of the NY Times. There are many more neocons who write oped for these papers. Both papers are Jewish owned and constantly carry op-eds promoting war with Iran.


I am unfamiliar with those names, but i will take your word on it. Other than those opeds those papers are dominated by left wing peace at any price liberals. And just what is a liberal interventionist and which ones have Obama's big ears. He tends to be severely non interventionist.

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Sep 19, 2015 09:59:39   #
payne1000
 
reconreb wrote:
Demonizing muslims: you mean those who shout death to America / Israel , who's koran spell's out how to enslave any who oppose or will not convert to Islaim ,, YEA count me in on the fight , you bastards want a fight , you wll be out of payne (pain) soon enough , does that make me a threat to you , you damn right it does !!!


If you're not a Zionist, you have certainly been brainwashed by the Zionist-controlled media.

You might be shocked to find out that all you think you know are lies which the media feed you 24/7.

Zionists use the ignorant in order to gain power in America.
You are a proud soldier for Israel and a traitor to Americans.

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Sep 19, 2015 10:02:08   #
payne1000
 
son of witless wrote:
I am unfamiliar with those names, but i will take your word on it. Other than those opeds those papers are dominated by left wing peace at any price liberals. And just what is a liberal interventionist and which ones have Obama's big ears. He tends to be severely non interventionist.


Until you learn that Obama is only a puppet for the cabal of bankers and fossil fuel corps, the same as Bush was, you're not intelligent enough to carry on a conversation.

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Sep 19, 2015 11:04:10   #
son of witless
 
payne1000 wrote:
Until you learn that Obama is only a puppet for the cabal of bankers and fossil fuel corps, the same as Bush was, you're not intelligent enough to carry on a conversation.


Oh the lad is a puppet, as you are. You have the same masters. Bad mouthing him must be some kind of weird misdirection on your part. Tom Steyer and George Soros are rich liberal guys. Funny how you lefties never have a bad word to say about them.

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