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Sep 18, 2015 15:30:59   #
payne1000
 
Reply to Blade Runner:

NYC fireman, John Schroeder, describes what he experienced in the North Tower that morning. He says something strange was going on--that explosions were happening in the lower part of the building where there was no fire. When asked if he thought something other than fire brought the building down, he said, "I believe so."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBb00PQR1zo

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Sep 18, 2015 15:37:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
The "Wacko's" Who Believe it's a Conspiracy will not be moved off that spot...

The "Wacko's" (me) Who Believe it was what we saw will not be moved...

So, stop trying both sides... :thumbup:


We will never stop.
The perps of the Kennedy assassination went unpunished.
the 911 perps will not be left unpunished if those that care never give up.

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Sep 18, 2015 15:54:09   #
solarkin
 
[quote=Don G. Dinsdale]9/11/01 It really did happen as we saw it, don't let "them" change what you saw with your own eyes and how your heart broke... Don D.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIWPPw-JzU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYE4zViAAg

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXkfs8KjRSc[/quote

Communists and conspiring theorists are denying the obvious.
We Saw it happen.
It wasn't a magic trick.
It was what it was.
A Jihadist attack.

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Sep 18, 2015 16:12:51   #
payne1000
 
[quote=solarkin][quote=Don G. Dinsdale]9/11/01 It really did happen as we saw it, don't let "them" change what you saw with your own eyes and how your heart broke... Don D.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIWPPw-JzU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYE4zViAAg

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXkfs8KjRSc[/quote

Communists and conspiring theorists are denying the obvious.
We Saw it happen.
It wasn't a magic trick.
It was what it was.
A Jihadist attack.[/quote]

You are such a sheep, solarkind.

You don't require proof to believe what you believe.
The same people who told you there were WMDs in Iraq told you Muslims attacked America.

When Newsman Tim Russert asked Colin Powell if the Bush administration would produce a white paper which would contain proof that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were behind the 9/11 attacks, Powell said the white paper would be provided within a few days. That white paper has never been provided.
That means what you truth deniers believe is a not a proven fact. What you believe is the most ridiculous and unbelievable conspiracy theory ever concocted.

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Sep 18, 2015 16:21:19   #
solarkin
 
payne1000 wrote:
You are such a sheep, solarkind.

You don't require proof to believe what you believe.
The same people who told you there were WMDs in Iraq told you Muslims attacked America.

When Newsman Tim Russert asked Colin Powell if the Bush administration would produce a white paper which would contain proof that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were behind the 9/11 attacks, Powell said the white paper would be provided within a few days. That white paper has never been provided.
That means what you truth deniers believe is a not a proven fact. What you believe is the most ridiculous and unbelievable conspiracy theory ever concocted.
You are such a sheep, solarkind. br br You don't... (show quote)


Really, as an eyewitness to the event,
Born in Brooklyn, whos' friends Died that day,
Your conspiracy theories are fantasy.
We are still uncovering chemical weapons in the Iraqi desert.

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Sep 18, 2015 16:26:17   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
payne1000 wrote:
You are such a sheep, solarkind.

You don't require proof to believe what you believe.
The same people who told you there were WMDs in Iraq told you Muslims attacked America.

When Newsman Tim Russert asked Colin Powell if the Bush administration would produce a white paper which would contain proof that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were behind the 9/11 attacks, Powell said the white paper would be provided within a few days. That white paper has never been provided.
That means what you truth deniers believe is a not a proven fact. What you believe is the most ridiculous and unbelievable conspiracy theory ever concocted.
You are such a sheep, solarkind. br br You don't... (show quote)


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No name calling, just disagree... F@@k It!!!

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Sep 18, 2015 16:32:05   #
payne1000
 
solarkin wrote:
Really, as an eyewitness to the event,
Born in Brooklyn, whos' friends Died that day,
Your conspiracy theories are fantasy.
We are still uncovering chemical weapons in the Iraqi desert.


You were the eye-witness to a false flag operation. Do you know what that means? If you don't, look up Project Northwoods, which was a similar false flag attack which was planned to falsely blame Cuba of attacking American airliners and ships.

Chemical weapons only have a shelf life of around 5 years.
http://www.alternet.org/story/15854/lies_about_iraq%26%23146%3Bs_weapons_are_past_expiration_date

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Sep 18, 2015 16:33:44   #
payne1000
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
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No name calling, just disagree... F@@k It!!!


You're a (ohmigod!) conspiracy theorist, Dinsdale.

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Sep 18, 2015 16:40:35   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
payne1000 wrote:
You're a (ohmigod!) conspiracy theorist, Dinsdale.


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STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :| It's Over I saw 2 = 2 = 4

You Saw 2 + 2 = 4*

*(Not Really)

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Sep 18, 2015 17:21:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
The "Wacko's" Who Believe it's a Conspiracy will not be moved off that spot...

The "Wacko's" (me) Who Believe it was what we saw will not be moved...

So, stop trying both sides... :thumbup:
I found a bunch of psychology sites that have articles on the psychiatric makeup of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Mentioned in nearly all of them are the old standards, JFK assassination, the Holocaust, and of course, 9/11. Seems there are more of these people than we thought. They are very insecure individuals, some bordering on neurotic paranoia; they trust no one and have difficulty processing information objectively. Their critical thinking skills are minimal and they are easily confused, particularly when dealing with a high volume of conflicting information (or data). They are easily fooled by this. One need only look at the number of times the 9/11 story has changed, either in small details or large portions. The collapse of WTC7 is a case in point.

Any good detective or attorney can tell you horror stories of how eyewitnesses (particularly those experiencing fear and high stress situations) can twist the facts completely and erroneous interpretations of evidence can result in some truly bizarre judicial outcomes.

Bottom line is that the documentation (all of it) of an Islamic terrorist attack by Al Qaeda, from bin Laden on down to Mohammed Atta completely overwhelms the entire bulk of conspiratorial garbage.

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Sep 18, 2015 18:10:16   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I found a bunch of psychology sites that have articles on the psychiatric makeup of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Mentioned in nearly all of them are the old standards, JFK assassination, the Holocaust, and of course, 9/11. Seems there are more of these people than we thought. They are very insecure individuals, some bordering on neurotic paranoia; they trust no one and have difficulty processing information objectively. Their critical thinking skills are minimal and they are easily confused, particularly when dealing with a high volume of conflicting information (or data). They are easily fooled by this. One need only look at the number of times the 9/11 story has changed, either in small details or large portions. The collapse of WTC7 is a case in point.

Any good detective or attorney can tell you horror stories of how eyewitnesses (particularly those experiencing fear and high stress situations) can twist the facts completely and erroneous interpretations of evidence can result in some truly bizarre judicial outcomes.

Bottom line is that the documentation (all of it) of an Islamic terrorist attack by Al Qaeda, from bin Laden on down to Mohammed Atta completely overwhelms the entire bulk of conspiratorial garbage.
I found a bunch of psychology sites that have arti... (show quote)


Why are you so dense you can't understand that what you believe about 9/11 is a conspiracy theory?

When you attempt to demean those who don't believe the official conspiracy theory, you are actually demeaning yourself and those who believe as you do. Those of us who don't believe the official conspiracy theory are anti-conspiracy theorists.

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Sep 18, 2015 18:54:27   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why are you so dense you can't understand that what you believe about 9/11 is a conspiracy theory?

When you attempt to demean those who don't believe the official conspiracy theory, you are actually demeaning yourself and those who believe as you do. Those of us who don't believe the official conspiracy theory are anti-conspiracy theorists.


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Why do have to be so f@@king rude, just explain your point of view and sign off...

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Sep 18, 2015 20:19:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why are you so dense you can't understand that what you believe about 9/11 is a conspiracy theory?

When you attempt to demean those who don't believe the official conspiracy theory, you are actually demeaning yourself and those who believe as you do. Those of us who don't believe the official conspiracy theory are anti-conspiracy theorists.
What exactly is this "official conspiracy theory" you incessantly bring up? Has it been published somewhere? I mean, something other than the 9/11 Commission whitewash.

How is it that the only ones who have talked openly about their role in the attacks, who planned it and carried it out, are the Islamic Jihadis. I mean, geez, they admitted it, took responsibility for it, celebrated it for all the world to see.

OTH, not a single participant in this massive conspiracy of yours leaked any hint of what happened? Not a whistle blower anywhere on earth. Not a single computer to hack. There is no way that, out of the thousands of people necessary to pull off such a massive event, not a single one has talked. Other than the Al Qaeda Jihadis, the only ones fooled are the conspiracy theorists who never had any skin in the game, never participated in any stage of the event. They are all, you among them, just making sh!t up. Whatever insane excuses you can come up with to fit your political agenda has nothing to do with what actually took place.

I mentioned some psyche studies about those who fall for conspiracy theories. I didn't write them. If you feel "demeaned" by that, TS.

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Sep 19, 2015 08:27:10   #
payne1000
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
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Why do have to be so f@@king rude, just explain your point of view and sign off...


That's exactly what I'm doing.
Insults to my point of view accompanied with lies is what keeps me here.

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Sep 19, 2015 08:55:15   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What exactly is this "official conspiracy theory" you incessantly bring up? Has it been published somewhere? I mean, something other than the 9/11 Commission whitewash.

How is it that the only ones who have talked openly about their role in the attacks, who planned it and carried it out, are the Islamic Jihadis. I mean, geez, they admitted it, took responsibility for it, celebrated it for all the world to see.

OTH, not a single participant in this massive conspiracy of yours leaked any hint of what happened? Not a whistle blower anywhere on earth. Not a single computer to hack. There is no way that, out of the thousands of people necessary to pull off such a massive event, not a single one has talked. Other than the Al Qaeda Jihadis, the only ones fooled are the conspiracy theorists who never had any skin in the game, never participated in any stage of the event. They are all, you among them, just making sh!t up. Whatever insane excuses you can come up with to fit your political agenda has nothing to do with what actually took place.

I mentioned some psyche studies about those who fall for conspiracy theories. I didn't write them. If you feel "demeaned" by that, TS.
What exactly is this "official conspiracy the... (show quote)


Even you refer to the 9/11 Commission as a whitewash. It certainly was. Bush and Cheney were not even going to have an investigation of the greatest crime ever committed in this country until a brave group of victims' wives shamed them into it. When the members of the Commission were selected by Bush and Cheney they were instructed not to investigate to determine who was guilty but to determine how to avoid an attack such as this in the future. The co-chairmen of the Commission both later said the Commission in many ways was set up to fail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LBARGBupM

So a Commission which was set up to fail and denied the information they requested from the Bush administration is the blueprint for the conspiracy theory which you believe.

Concerning why you think no one who was involved in the operation has blown the whistle: If you had been involved in an operation which killed 3,000 people in such a horrible manner, would you come forward and admit, "Yeah, I took part in that."

Here are some high-level experts who have attempted to blow the whistle. The Zionist-controlled mainstream media
censored all these attempts.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71c_1311362426

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYzwf01Z7I

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