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Aug 22, 2015 08:59:08   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
And, you're a f**king idiot!


Absence of rebuttal indicates I am right.

Insults are all you have left.

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Aug 22, 2015 09:05:52   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
JMHO wrote:
It's a video from an officer worn body camera. It takes place in a restaurant where the male officer wearing the camera approaches a theft suspect in the restroom of the restaurant and asks him to step outside. The male officer leads the suspect outside while a female officer escorts the suspect from behind. Once outside, the suspect pulls a gun and the male officer does what he is trained to do.

This is just what our survival shooting instructors taught us to do 30+ years ago, you shoot and you keep shooting until you have neutralized the threat. I timed it and he gets off 13 shots in five seconds, hand as steady as a rock! What a great video.

I think 12 of the shots hit the perp! This shows the value of officer worn video cameras. This video shows just how fast it can happen out there. I don't think the female officer ever got a round off. If you don't want to see a perp getting what is coming to him, don't watch. Its a Glock doing what a Glock is designed to do!

http://www.full30.com/video/dc1c563aa6b106f252dfe6a9d91ffd94?ref=F530fb
It's a video from an officer worn body camera. It... (show quote)

Sorry dude , that was staged from the get go..

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Aug 22, 2015 10:03:18   #
payne1000
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
why dont we just have you on tv,,,, think of the money we would save on courts, laws, judges, even crime??

why?? because you are wrong,,,, as is usually the case. with your views


No rebuttal from you, either.
It's really difficult to refute the obvious truth, as always.

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Aug 22, 2015 10:14:28   #
Ve'hoe
 
yeah there was,,,,,, go back and read,,,,,,,


the "truth" isnt affected by "your opinion"

your claim about no blood is bullshit.....

now disprove it............ hint,,, see the holes in suspects shirt,,,,,


payne1000 wrote:
No rebuttal from you, either.
It's really difficult to refute the obvious truth, as always.

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Aug 22, 2015 10:23:47   #
payne1000
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
yeah there was,,,,,, go back and read,,,,,,,


the "truth" isnt affected by "your opinion"

your claim about no blood is bullshit.....

now disprove it............ hint,,, see the holes in suspects shirt,,,,,


If you could see holes in the suspect's shirt you would also be able to see blood. Do you deny that it is standard police procedure to immediately frisk a suspect for weapons? The policeman's camera view indicates he turned his back on the suspect all the way through the restaurant. Would a trained policeman do that?

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Aug 22, 2015 10:40:53   #
Ve'hoe
 
Stick to your first mistake,,,,,

"Bullets make holes. Blood spurts out of those holes." go back and read your quote,,,, dont change and run away from what you said....

now you are trying to bolster what you "wished" you had said..... dispute what I disputed,,,, dont make another strawman until you burn this one...


payne1000 wrote:
If you could see holes in the suspect's shirt you would also be able to see blood. Do you deny that it is standard police procedure to immediately frisk a suspect for weapons? The policeman's camera view indicates he turned his back on the suspect all the way through the restaurant. Would a trained policeman do that?

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Aug 22, 2015 11:10:31   #
payne1000
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Stick to your first mistake,,,,,

"Bullets make holes. Blood spurts out of those holes." go back and read your quote,,,, dont change and run away from what you said....

now you are trying to bolster what you "wished" you had said..... dispute what I disputed,,,, dont make another strawman until you burn this one...


You and JMHO are the only ones so far who believe the video is not faked.
No amount of obfuscation on your part will make the fake video real.

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Aug 22, 2015 11:24:30   #
Ve'hoe
 
cant prove your bullshit, huh..... so throwing out the video completely just back up your claim about spurting blood,,,, because that is not, what I have seen happen...

payne1000 wrote:
You and JMHO are the only ones so far who believe the video is not faked.
No amount of obfuscation on your part will make the fake video real.

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Aug 22, 2015 11:33:55   #
payne1000
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
cant prove your bullshit, huh..... so throwing out the video completely just back up your claim about spurting blood,,,, because that is not, what I have seen happen...


You're ignoring the absence of police standard procedure.
There is no way to prove anything about the blood when the only evidence you have is a faked video. Common sense should tell readers that some blood would be visible if all those bullets were real.

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Aug 22, 2015 11:39:41   #
Ve'hoe
 
Stick to your first mistake,,,,, you said it was fake because...

"Bullets make holes. Blood spurts out of those holes."

go ahead and defend that,,,,, because that is what I debated.....

payne1000 wrote:
You're ignoring the absence of police standard procedure.
There is no way to prove anything about the blood when the only evidence you have is a faked video. Common sense should tell readers that some blood would be visible if all those bullets were real.

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Aug 22, 2015 11:54:03   #
payne1000
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Stick to your first mistake,,,,, you said it was fake because...

"Bullets make holes. Blood spurts out of those holes."

go ahead and defend that,,,,, because that is what I debated.....


Do you deny that blood always flows from bullet wounds in humans?
Where on the human body could one be hit with a 9mm bullet and not bleed?

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Aug 22, 2015 11:58:12   #
Ve'hoe
 
It isnt my job to bolster your argument


stick to your first mistake,,,,, you said it was fake because...

"Bullets make holes. Blood spurts out of those holes."

go ahead and defend that,,,,, because that is what I debated.....
payne1000 wrote:
Do you deny that blood always flows from bullet wounds in humans?
Where on the human body could one be hit with a 9mm bullet and not bleed?

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Aug 23, 2015 09:50:09   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
You're ignoring the absence of police standard procedure.
There is no way to prove anything about the blood when the only evidence you have is a faked video. Common sense should tell readers that some blood would be visible if all those bullets were real.


Like I said before, I showed this to my son, a 24-year veteran police officer in a big city. The first thing he noticed was they did not pat down the suspect, and you're right that is standard police procedures. Having said that, my son said that that is not the first time officers have not patted down a suspect, or patted the suspect down properly. Police have had to lower their standards to get new recruits, and many of these new recruits are not up to par...they make a lot of mistakes. the second thing he noticed was the female immediately went for the taser, instead of her weapon, another grave mistake...he could have taken her out. Thirdly, the perp was shot on the establishments lawn, so it would appear not to hurt the alleged perp's fall. But, after observing those discrepancies, and playing back the video once again in slow motion, it appears to be a training video, not a real event...probably used in testing the body camera. But, viewing it for the first time, and only noting the first two discrepancies, it looked real, even to him. He retires next year, and can't wait, as it is getting way too dangerous out there now days, and he concurs that a lot of police officers are going to get killed in the future.

You're wrong in the point you made that the perp's gun could be seen, depicting a bulge in his front pocket. That is not true. I have a concealed weapon permit and carry all the time, and I carry a Springfield Armory XDS .45 cal, or a Kahr PM9 9mm using either a pocket holster, or a paddle holster. When it is in my pocket holster, and since I wear loose clothing, it does not show at all. I also have a Glock Model 36 .45 cal. that has a larger profile, that I carry usually when I'm out on the property or exploring...by far my most accurate weapon.

Having said all this, you have a lot of room to talk about posting fakes or untrue info, with all the absolute bullshit phony unproven crap you post, pal.

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Aug 23, 2015 10:37:16   #
payne1000
 
JMHO wrote:
Like I said before, I showed this to my son, a 24-year veteran police officer in a big city. The first thing he noticed was they did not pat down the suspect, and you're right that is standard police procedures. Having said that, my son said that that is not the first time officers have not patted down a suspect, or patted the suspect down properly. Police have had to lower their standards to get new recruits, and many of these new recruits are not up to par...they make a lot of mistakes. the second thing he noticed was the female immediately went for the taser, instead of her weapon, another grave mistake...he could have taken her out. Thirdly, the perp was shot on the establishments lawn, so it would appear not to hurt the alleged perp's fall. But, after observing those discrepancies, and playing back the video once again in slow motion, it appears to be a training video, not a real event...probably used in testing the body camera. But, viewing it for the first time, and only noting the first two discrepancies, it looked real, even to him. He retires next year, and can't wait, as it is getting way too dangerous out there now days, and he concurs that a lot of police officers are going to get killed in the future.

You're wrong in the point you made that the perp's gun could be seen, depicting a bulge in his front pocket. That is not true. I have a concealed weapon permit and carry all the time, and I carry a Springfield Armory XDS .45 cal, or a Kahr PM9 9mm using either a pocket holster, or a paddle holster. When it is in my pocket holster, and since I wear loose clothing, it does not show at all. I also have a Glock Model 36 .45 cal. that has a larger profile, that I carry usually when I'm out on the property or exploring...by far my most accurate weapon.

Having said all this, you have a lot of room to talk about posting fakes or untrue info, with all the absolute bullshit phony unproven crap you post, pal.
Like I said before, I showed this to my son, a 24-... (show quote)


This must be a first for you--admitting you were wrong.
Now you need to do the right thing again and apologize for the insults you hurled at those of us who were right.

Carrying a weapon is a sign of paranoia. Who are you afraid of and why?

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Aug 23, 2015 10:41:57   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 wrote:
This must be a first for you--admitting you were wrong.
Now you need to do the right thing again and apologize for the insults you hurled at those of us who were right.

Carrying a weapon is a sign of paranoia. Who are you afraid of and why?


FU...moron! You might try admitting it when you're wrong...like the majority of the time, asshole? And, I said "it appears to be a training video"...there is no real proof either way.

Paranoia? Nah, but I don't intend on becoming a victim...like you, pal.

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