UncleJesse wrote:
Doc, Pastor Marc, Godspeed. I wish you well and I dont understand why you have attributed misunderstanding to my words. Let me clear what you wrote in reference to me. I surely dont encourage anyone to forget their maker or to dismiss the bible. I dont envision the countrys demise over teaching science it has nothing to do with religion. If teaching science turns anyone away from the Good News, they didnt have a true understanding of the message to begin with. Even with what you have been through, you are still a believer. You make a valid case for thought to those that state science is always Gods work, improving the health and lives of His people. As you have observed and experienced, while it may be Gods work, it is too frequently not used for Gods work. Some folks place science in place of religion. Finally, I never said a verse becomes rhetoric but that some rhetoric conveniently uses verses to support their opinion.
Doc, Pastor Marc, Godspeed. I wish you well and I... (
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Apology's, and not to make any excuses, at times I see a word or sentence and misinterpret it as being negative. I reread your statement that I commented on 4 times before it started to make a bit more sense to me. What I think, the 1st time threw me off track was when you mentioned about revival and evangelists. I rarely sleep nights, and usually crash between 0500 and 0600. So normally my day starts at 1500 or 1600 hrs here. The downside is Monday the V.A. van is coming for me at 0700 Monday, so that makes for a long day and night. I better finish my first lines, I get sidetracked a lot, and by the time I realize it have written a different topic for 35 min. or so. :-) Anyways, I will try and finish that. On Dish up in the religious channels is one called The Prayer Channel, and 24/5 there is Arnold Murray, and Dennis Murray. Father and Son. They are never seen together, but each one takes the Bible and teaches it Chapter by Chapter and Verse by Verse. What they preach is my denomination which is Non denominational, lol. So I am not affiliated with any one religion, ex: Baptist, Lutheran, etc. Just pure Christianity, and would have made a wonderful follower of Jesus as an Apostle. I'm starting to do it again! So when you mentioned Biological, you see why I jumped to AOD. Then as they teach on The Shepard's Church, on The Prayer Channel, they've mentioned many many times, not naming any specific religious branch, but about Tithe's. Arnold Murray, especially, being a Korean Vet from the Chosen Reservoir gets a bit heated,and you can tell by the way he walks at his age he too has had bad Frostbite of the legs. But he says Many Churches contract with these Big Name Evangelists, only because they bring in a lot of money. And I see his point. He goes on to say the people that fall into these traps is like falling into a false Church, and all their good intentions are as described, unfortunately fall not into the category of studying and Praising Our Father, because these churches stress more and more on tithe's then sermon. I know, I went to a Southern Baptist Church for quite a while and told my wife it's just not a true church of God. All the Pastors sermons almost 80% of the time would have tithes thrown into it. Just like SBC, (Swaggert Broadcasting Channel) where their commercials are about if you send this much or that much or this much as a money bomb your blessing will be 10 fold. This reminds me of what the word tells me of the end times, or in the last days, at the sound of the 6th Trump the beast with 10 horns will raise up, and many of the elect will recognize this beast as satan, and the anti-christ will appear and be pleasing to the eye and ear, and many will be deceived, even those of the elect, referring to all these Churches that capitalize on $$$$$ rather then Gods written word. And sobeit for the patrons, being taken in by these false prophets, or evangelists. So revivals, never being able to attend one, can either be for bringing the strays back to the true light, or to the false doctrine. So one must be able to discern the truth from the lie, and The Shepards Church does this so wonderfully. Monday I hope you get that Prayer Channel, just to tune it in for a little bit, and you'll see what I mean.
When I got out of the Army in 69, my head was plagued with demons. And it was like I had an eternal battle going on inside it. On the downside I had over 300 w2 forms by 55 yrs. So that would qualify me as a Jack of all trades, and master of none. And it was the old adage of where ever I got a job, I would pour myself into it 110%, so my mind wouldn't have a chance to think of anything else. Then came the same stereotype foreman or boss or manager that wasn't happy unless he was making life difficult for someone else. And it seems they always picked out the best workers to do this to. So when it came down to me, 1 of 2 things would happen. I'd either go into a blind rage, or walk out. On the upside most times I'd get a call from the main owner or someone in that position call me after finding out what happened and asked me to come back. Well, I knew I couldn't. That person had taken everything I loved doing for 8 hrs, and turned it into a hate of doing good for bad people. Fortunately through the decades after I got out, jobs were plentiful, and normally was back working within 2 days. It was at 55, 10 years ago, when I went out on S.S. disability with my brain tumor and 2 heart surgery's, and had no problem then, even telling me I would have qualified for full disability 2 years prior. That's when Psychiatry started addressing my demons, and with the head meds, finally was able to be calm and relaxed through the day and night. My primary care has me on the bulk of meds for my AOD. Last yr Sept 9th we bought a new/used home that I'm living in, but my wife of 33 years has been living in the other house till it sells. So, it was the quiet time again, that I had when I first came home,(except for work) that brought me to God's word with a passion. Before my legs went, I asked my Dr how long before gross physical debilitation starts, and she gave me from 1 1/2 to 2 years. As soon as I got home I called this guy in Minnesota, and bought my Power Parachute. I sat in a small 3 wheel trike with just a shoulder harness holding me in the seat. Always had 2 windows for flying a PPC. The 1st and last 4 hrs of each day, wx providing. I'd go up a mile, and it was like being closer to God then I've ever been, and the beauty was undescribable. After 1 1/2 yrs The circulation from the waist down got worse, and finally couldn't load my PPC on the trailer. The 2 people I asked for help were always too busy, so after it sat for 2 years I sold it. But I missed the Spiritual aspect so bad, that that little voice inside my head got louder, and picked up my Bible and started reading. What threw me into it so deeply was buying a new Bible with the NIV version. So things in the KJV that were hard for me to understand in that 1611 Version, became a bit more planer to comprehend. Since then I've purchased 3 other bibles. A Parallel Bible with the KJV on the left side of the page, and The Amplified version on the right. Each bible has many different references in it's own respect, So the next one was the ESV or English Standard Version Ministers Bible, and my last and final purchase is on it's way, and that's the NASB, Knew American Standard Bible Ministers Version, which is revised so well keeping the original context of the word, yet making it so easy to understand that I can read it to a 12 yr old and up and they understand the word. Not that my goal at this time is to start a church, but decades ago I know now I would have, and regret missing that calling. Winters in Wi are rough on me, and even when I use a garden pad for my knees I have a looong driveway here, and dress for the wx, but the Uphill pass is difficult, and if too much snow falls on the roof I use a roof snow shovel. But with a neighbor across the st., and 1 next door neither have ever offered to help, and I can't even tell you their names after 13 months here now. Goes to show how great people are. But I don't let that bother me, nice wx, unless I say Hi, they never say anything. Well, I don't know if this helped any Jesse, but I tried.
Isaiah 32:16-18 16 Then Justice will dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness abide in the fruitful field.
17 And the effect of righteousness will be peace, and the result of righteousness will be peace.
and the result of righteousness, quietness, and trust forever.
18 My people will abide in a peaceful habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.
N'Christ, Jesus Amen Pastor Marc