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Oct 26, 2013 23:21:43   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
DocSavage wrote:
Hi Larry, I guess no one's back tracked on my previous posts, but for Uncle Jesse, I think maybe his eyes and ears are only 1/4 opened to the truths of that Book of Life, and the Greatest Author this world's ever had. I'll just briefly say when Jesse mentions Biology, steam come out of my ears. ... All this with many thanks to that creator and manufacturer when the true diagnosis of all my ills caused by no less then my time in the Army in 1966, and the thanks goes to the maker of GMO's and AOD, MONSANTO. ...So much for the wonderful world of Biology, Eh Jesse? ... To Jesse, if your mind is completely open, which took me 65 years to the Holy Spirit, that little voice deep inside all of us will start shouting. All you have to do is listen for it. ...The Bible you speak of Jesse, I read over and over and over, and each time I find more mystery's of life answered. Between those covers are the answers of life, and every situation you can imagine, also contained in that wonderful Holy Book. ...Your so far off when you think after a while it all becomes rhetoric. Most likely a verse you read that sticks with you when you read it again. Just imagine how many people are unaware that the many times the bible says to Fear God, they take it literally. To Fear God can mean to have Strength in Our Father, or it can mean to have Love for our Father. Just as 1 word in Hebrew can have many different meanings. ...5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. ...Notice the very last line. ...The way Washington D.C. has ruined our economy, ...so I will bow out for now, and say May God Bless and watch over all of us. Amen Pastor Marc
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Doc, Pastor Marc, Godspeed. I wish you well and I don’t understand why you have attributed misunderstanding to my words. Let me clear what you wrote in reference to me. I surely don’t encourage anyone to forget their maker or to dismiss the bible. I don’t envision the country’s demise over teaching science – it has nothing to do with religion. If teaching science turns anyone away from the Good News, they didn’t have a true understanding of the message to begin with. Even with what you have been through, you are still a believer. You make a valid case for thought to those that state science is always God’s work, improving the health and lives of His people. As you have observed and experienced, while it may be God’s work, it is too frequently not used for Gods work. Some folks place science in place of religion. Finally, I never said a verse becomes rhetoric but that some rhetoric conveniently uses verses to support their opinion.

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Oct 27, 2013 02:13:54   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Doc, Pastor Marc, Godspeed. I wish you well and I don’t understand why you have attributed misunderstanding to my words. Let me clear what you wrote in reference to me. I surely don’t encourage anyone to forget their maker or to dismiss the bible. I don’t envision the country’s demise over teaching science – it has nothing to do with religion. If teaching science turns anyone away from the Good News, they didn’t have a true understanding of the message to begin with. Even with what you have been through, you are still a believer. You make a valid case for thought to those that state science is always God’s work, improving the health and lives of His people. As you have observed and experienced, while it may be God’s work, it is too frequently not used for Gods work. Some folks place science in place of religion. Finally, I never said a verse becomes rhetoric but that some rhetoric conveniently uses verses to support their opinion.
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Apology's, and not to make any excuses, at times I see a word or sentence and misinterpret it as being negative. I reread your statement that I commented on 4 times before it started to make a bit more sense to me. What I think, the 1st time threw me off track was when you mentioned about revival and evangelists. I rarely sleep nights, and usually crash between 0500 and 0600. So normally my day starts at 1500 or 1600 hrs here. The downside is Monday the V.A. van is coming for me at 0700 Monday, so that makes for a long day and night. I better finish my first lines, I get sidetracked a lot, and by the time I realize it have written a different topic for 35 min. or so. :-) Anyways, I will try and finish that. On Dish up in the religious channels is one called The Prayer Channel, and 24/5 there is Arnold Murray, and Dennis Murray. Father and Son. They are never seen together, but each one takes the Bible and teaches it Chapter by Chapter and Verse by Verse. What they preach is my denomination which is Non denominational, lol. So I am not affiliated with any one religion, ex: Baptist, Lutheran, etc. Just pure Christianity, and would have made a wonderful follower of Jesus as an Apostle. I'm starting to do it again! So when you mentioned Biological, you see why I jumped to AOD. Then as they teach on The Shepard's Church, on The Prayer Channel, they've mentioned many many times, not naming any specific religious branch, but about Tithe's. Arnold Murray, especially, being a Korean Vet from the Chosen Reservoir gets a bit heated,and you can tell by the way he walks at his age he too has had bad Frostbite of the legs. But he says Many Churches contract with these Big Name Evangelists, only because they bring in a lot of money. And I see his point. He goes on to say the people that fall into these traps is like falling into a false Church, and all their good intentions are as described, unfortunately fall not into the category of studying and Praising Our Father, because these churches stress more and more on tithe's then sermon. I know, I went to a Southern Baptist Church for quite a while and told my wife it's just not a true church of God. All the Pastors sermons almost 80% of the time would have tithes thrown into it. Just like SBC, (Swaggert Broadcasting Channel) where their commercials are about if you send this much or that much or this much as a money bomb your blessing will be 10 fold. This reminds me of what the word tells me of the end times, or in the last days, at the sound of the 6th Trump the beast with 10 horns will raise up, and many of the elect will recognize this beast as satan, and the anti-christ will appear and be pleasing to the eye and ear, and many will be deceived, even those of the elect, referring to all these Churches that capitalize on $$$$$ rather then Gods written word. And sobeit for the patrons, being taken in by these false prophets, or evangelists. So revivals, never being able to attend one, can either be for bringing the strays back to the true light, or to the false doctrine. So one must be able to discern the truth from the lie, and The Shepards Church does this so wonderfully. Monday I hope you get that Prayer Channel, just to tune it in for a little bit, and you'll see what I mean.

When I got out of the Army in 69, my head was plagued with demons. And it was like I had an eternal battle going on inside it. On the downside I had over 300 w2 forms by 55 yrs. So that would qualify me as a Jack of all trades, and master of none. And it was the old adage of where ever I got a job, I would pour myself into it 110%, so my mind wouldn't have a chance to think of anything else. Then came the same stereotype foreman or boss or manager that wasn't happy unless he was making life difficult for someone else. And it seems they always picked out the best workers to do this to. So when it came down to me, 1 of 2 things would happen. I'd either go into a blind rage, or walk out. On the upside most times I'd get a call from the main owner or someone in that position call me after finding out what happened and asked me to come back. Well, I knew I couldn't. That person had taken everything I loved doing for 8 hrs, and turned it into a hate of doing good for bad people. Fortunately through the decades after I got out, jobs were plentiful, and normally was back working within 2 days. It was at 55, 10 years ago, when I went out on S.S. disability with my brain tumor and 2 heart surgery's, and had no problem then, even telling me I would have qualified for full disability 2 years prior. That's when Psychiatry started addressing my demons, and with the head meds, finally was able to be calm and relaxed through the day and night. My primary care has me on the bulk of meds for my AOD. Last yr Sept 9th we bought a new/used home that I'm living in, but my wife of 33 years has been living in the other house till it sells. So, it was the quiet time again, that I had when I first came home,(except for work) that brought me to God's word with a passion. Before my legs went, I asked my Dr how long before gross physical debilitation starts, and she gave me from 1 1/2 to 2 years. As soon as I got home I called this guy in Minnesota, and bought my Power Parachute. I sat in a small 3 wheel trike with just a shoulder harness holding me in the seat. Always had 2 windows for flying a PPC. The 1st and last 4 hrs of each day, wx providing. I'd go up a mile, and it was like being closer to God then I've ever been, and the beauty was undescribable. After 1 1/2 yrs The circulation from the waist down got worse, and finally couldn't load my PPC on the trailer. The 2 people I asked for help were always too busy, so after it sat for 2 years I sold it. But I missed the Spiritual aspect so bad, that that little voice inside my head got louder, and picked up my Bible and started reading. What threw me into it so deeply was buying a new Bible with the NIV version. So things in the KJV that were hard for me to understand in that 1611 Version, became a bit more planer to comprehend. Since then I've purchased 3 other bibles. A Parallel Bible with the KJV on the left side of the page, and The Amplified version on the right. Each bible has many different references in it's own respect, So the next one was the ESV or English Standard Version Ministers Bible, and my last and final purchase is on it's way, and that's the NASB, Knew American Standard Bible Ministers Version, which is revised so well keeping the original context of the word, yet making it so easy to understand that I can read it to a 12 yr old and up and they understand the word. Not that my goal at this time is to start a church, but decades ago I know now I would have, and regret missing that calling. Winters in Wi are rough on me, and even when I use a garden pad for my knees I have a looong driveway here, and dress for the wx, but the Uphill pass is difficult, and if too much snow falls on the roof I use a roof snow shovel. But with a neighbor across the st., and 1 next door neither have ever offered to help, and I can't even tell you their names after 13 months here now. Goes to show how great people are. But I don't let that bother me, nice wx, unless I say Hi, they never say anything. Well, I don't know if this helped any Jesse, but I tried.

Isaiah 32:16-18 16 Then Justice will dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness abide in the fruitful field.
17 And the effect of righteousness will be peace, and the result of righteousness will be peace.
and the result of righteousness, quietness, and trust forever.
18 My people will abide in a peaceful habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.
N'Christ, Jesus Amen Pastor Marc

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Oct 27, 2013 13:29:16   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
DocSavage wrote:
Apology's, and not to make any excuses, at times I see a word or sentence and misinterpret it as being negative. I reread your statement that I commented on 4 times before it started to make a bit more sense to me. What I think, the 1st time threw me off track was when you mentioned about revival and evangelists. I rarely sleep nights, and usually crash between 0500 and 0600. So normally my day starts at 1500 or 1600 hrs here. The downside is Monday the V.A. van is coming for me at 0700 Monday, so that makes for a long day and night. ...Isaiah 32:16-18 16 Then Justice will dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness abide in the fruitful field.
17 And the effect of righteousness will be peace, and the result of righteousness will be peace.
and the result of righteousness, quietness, and trust forever.
18 My people will abide in a peaceful habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places.
N'Christ, Jesus Amen Pastor Marc
Apology's, and not to make any excuses, at times I... (show quote)


Doc, Pastor Marc, Godspeed. I wish you the best of luck on your trip Monday morning. If you don’t already have one, be sure to ask for an oximeter to monitor AOD flare ups and it’s always good to have a spare if you have one. I hope your other house sells soon and wifey will be with you soon.

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Oct 27, 2013 14:15:56   #
Pastor Jade
 
martychristiansoldier wrote:
Well I also believe that we won't see the worst, but we do have to see some bad so we can TRY to warn others what is coming. I'm getting to tired for this.


I've been a Christian for over half a century.I know exactly how you feel.
Any battle is going to be rough. Else it isn't a "battle", i.e., struggle. But for us Christians, it's when we stand still and let God step in that we see the victories. "Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you today:...." (Exo. 14:13 K.J.B.) "But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint." (Isa. 40:31 K.J.B.) "Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (Gal. 1:3-5 K.J.B.)
Is it really that easy? Well yes and no.
No, because the enemy is always trying to confront and resist us.
Yes, because when we realize (and practice) the fact that our God fights our battles for us then we have rest and peace. "For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you." (Deu. 20:4 K.J.B.) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Eph. 6:12 K.J.B.)
Jesus said,"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (John 16:33 K.J.B.)
I hope you find that encouraging.

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Oct 27, 2013 16:56:22   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
Thanks Jesse, much appreciated. My wife just called to ask me t call her before I leave, she has an Appointment at he Local Hosp. about the Carotid enderterectomy she'll have done at the UW Hosp. The tram connects the V.A. with them also. Neither of us are up to the 100 mile drive, so her daughter said she'll come up to take her. She's having lots of trouble breathing because of it, and they put it on hold because of obama, to see if the insurance will cover it, which is something that never happened before. I will hold obama 100% culpable if something happens to my wife before. God Bless, and thanks for getting back. Pastor Marc

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Oct 27, 2013 17:07:11   #
rumitoid
 
Pastor Jade wrote:
Your reply puts me in mind of a joke I once heard.
We've all heard nasty stories of Johnny, the bad boy. But this is a clean one - to the relief of maybe a few.
It seems that Johnny and his sister had just returned from church.
Johnny rushed into the living room. Threw himself upon the couch. And furiously began thumbing through his Bible. Stopping every page or so to read a bit before continuing on.
His sister watched this very unusual behavior for a couple of minutes. She'ed never seen Johnny so much as open the Bible before.
Finally her curiosity got the better of her. So she had to ask.
Johnny? What in the world are you doing?
And he replied, "I'm trying to find a scripture that'll back up a preconceived notion I just had."
It doesn't matter who is using the Bible to practice mysticism; it's still mysticism.
Your reply puts me in mind of a joke I once heard.... (show quote)


Have you read any of the mystics? Meister Eckhart, julian of Norwich, any others? Have you studied the contemplative prayer form of mysticism? Do you know about Brother Lawrence?
I have heard the complaints about mysticism from mainline Christians all my life. This is a description you might like: "it begins in m[i]yst, is cenetered in"i" and leads to schism." (Has its flaws.) The Book of John is considered the mystical gospel. Definitely my favorite. Paul's experience shouts mysticism.

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Oct 27, 2013 17:13:33   #
rumitoid
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Abraham did not have a child by a gentile wife either, as he did with Egypt, his own wife, and a Canaanite. In the story of the Prodigal son, you read of Noah having just to sons. Japheth, the first born, and Shem of which who produce Arabs, Abraham, Jacob, and the Israelites who mixed their bloodlines with all but Japheth, the Gentiles. When Jesus Christ died on the cross first to perge Israel sins, that son mixed in all those bloodlines and DNA finally went home repented{also having symbolized the Jews captivity in Babylon). Noah excepted him, But states to the first son "Japheth" (who had been out in the field, meaning not in the OT sceen) that Noah left him "all that he had," Japheth, progenitor of the Gentiles. Genesis 10:1-5.
Now we have a Muzlim President who is taking that blessing from us.

Noah, also said that Japheth would share in the tents of Shem. Abraham and Jacob were tent dwellers as well as Jesus Christ ancestry. In NT, when the Apostle Paul went through his own conversion, he was ordained by Jesus Christ as the Apostle to the Gentiles. The Apostle Pauls trade? He was a "tent maker.' For you Pastor Jade, take this great blessing, or deny it and abandon it.
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http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ishmael.htm

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Oct 27, 2013 17:17:29   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
Pastor Jade wrote:
I've been a Christian for over half a century.I know exactly how you feel.
Any battle is going to be rough. Else it isn't a "battle", i.e., struggle. But for us Christians, it's when we stand still and let God step in that we see the victories. "Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you today:...." (Exo. 14:13 K.J.B.) "But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint." (Isa. 40:31 K.J.B.) "Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. (Gal. 1:3-5 K.J.B.)
Is it really that easy? Well yes and no.
No, because the enemy is always trying to confront and resist us.
Yes, because when we realize (and practice) the fact that our God fights our battles for us then we have rest and peace. "For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you." (Deu. 20:4 K.J.B.) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Eph. 6:12 K.J.B.)
Jesus said,"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (John 16:33 K.J.B.)
I hope you find that encouraging.
I've been a Christian for over half a century.I kn... (show quote)


Sorta spiritual Pastor Jade. I had just quoted from that chapter Ephesians 6:10, and posted it the other day. I have appealed, and even joined their websites asking the Bikers first, if the local chapter had a parts van going, if they'd give me a ride also. No luck! Then I did the same with the Truckers, and again no luck with them or the Vets that followed. But Our Father knows who will take me there, for I've not been there for 55 years. I'd like to 1st see the memorials, especially mine for my service in the army 1966. Then I want to get to the top of the stairs at the House, and even hopefully inside, with a bullhorn and prayed using that same Verse from Ephesians, that Our Father Bless me and fill me with The Holy Spirit, to every passage I have bookmarked, that I may speak them with just holding my 2 Bibles up. Yes I'll go there locked and loaded, but this time with the word of God, and not the spitting end of an M-14. Pastor Marc

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Oct 27, 2013 17:18:28   #
rumitoid
 
DocSavage wrote:
From P.M. Netanyahu

As Obama/America Has Done to Israel
Obama is an international evangelist for this sin.

I warned, just a while back, that Obama was going to be severely judged by the Holy God of Israel. He acts as an “evangelist” for promoting the homosexual agenda throughout the world which makes him a target of God’s judgment. He is covered with the blood of dead babies with how he promotes abortion in every way. He is in full support of the Muslim Brotherhood knowing full well that they want to destroy Christians and Israel. He is doing everything he can to divide Israel and Jerusalem.

He is bringing upon himself a “Perfect Storm” of judgment. He is like a lightning rod for judgment, and, unfortunately, he is the president, so God’s judgment on Obama could involve the entire nation. America is ripe for judgment with 60 million dead babies and an unfettered homosexual agenda, plus the nonstop interfering with God’s prophetic plan for Israel.

Unless Obama repents of leading the nation into wickedness and sin, it really does appear that God is about to crush him. No one can do what he does without severe judgment.

Look at the timing of how both national and international calamity is falling on him with no end in sight.

I hope that the Lord breaks Obama as he did with Manasseh, the wicked King of Judah. After God’s judgment fell on Manasseh, he repented and turned to the Lord.

Obama’s Credibility Is Melting 10/23/13 While Kerry was meeting with Netanyahu, Obama is being humiliated not only in America but throughout the world.

“Bluntly, Mr. Obama’s partners are concluding that they cannot do business with him. They don’t trust him. Whether it’s the Saudis, the Syrian rebels, the French, the Iraqis, the unpivoted Asians or the congressional Republicans, they’ve all had their fill of coming up on the short end with so mercurial a U.S. president. And when that happens, the world’s important business doesn’t get done. It sits in a dangerous and volatile vacuum”

The God of Israel is only going to allow this to go so far: then judgment

Netanyahu airs fears of Iran compromise as he meets Kerry in Rome 10/23/13 When they meet, dividing Israel is always on the table. Kerry is relentless in his drive to divide Israel.

“A bad deal is worse than no deal, if it leaves Iran with the capacity to produce nuclear weapons, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu warned US Secretary of State John Kerry before the two met in Rome on Wednesday.“I think a partial deal that leaves Iran with these capabilities is a bad deal,” Netanyahu said.”

Merkel frosty on the U.S. over ‘unacceptable’ spying allegations 10/24/13 Obama is about to become an international pariah with no credibility. As this happens, think of how he mocks the Lord and His word. Think of how he promotes the Muslim Brotherhood, which is slaughtering Christians and wants to destroy Israel. Think of all the international speeches he makes promoting sodomy.

I cannot see how God’s judgment on Obama can miss America. It appears that the personal judgment on him is going to have a catastrophic impact on America. Watch for the US economy to melt down as Obama is judged.

Pastor Marc
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First become love, then you can take your place in the seat of judgment.

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Oct 27, 2013 17:46:40   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
rumitoid wrote:
First become love, then you can take your place in the seat of judgment.


Thanks for the wise words rumitoid. If it comes to pass and I do make it to D.C., I will be preaching on the Lawlessness of gov't, 1 John 3:4; 2 Timothy 3; 2Timothy 4; Genesis 19; and every utterance that the Holy Spirit deems fit in bringing the word of Our Father to a place that's not only abandoning his word, but through our dictator try to make all religious practices illegal as in the Middle East. I will never give into this, and will fight it head on with God's Word. My personal messages to my gov't officials always come back in a bulk letter made up response. As great as it seemed, the only good that came out of these past recent drives on D.C. was opening up the memorials to our ww2 Vets. But other then that what I thought they were going there to do was mis interpreted by me. I thought they were going to serve our gov't walking papers. My only premise is to let these ungodly people hear the word of Our Lord, that he may open eyes, and open ears. For I will knock, and see if that door opens for me, I shall seek out every blasphemous politician right to the President, and I shall ask the Lord, Our Father to fill me with all the words needed. I am well aware my time grows short, and I Pray with all my heart, and all my soul, and all my might, that this comes to pass before I do. N'Christ, Jesus Amen Pastor Marc

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Oct 27, 2013 18:57:49   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
DocSavage wrote:
Thanks Jesse, much appreciated. My wife just called to ask me t call her before I leave, she has an Appointment at he Local Hosp. about the Carotid enderterectomy she'll have done at the UW Hosp. The tram connects the V.A. with them also. Neither of us are up to the 100 mile drive, so her daughter said she'll come up to take her. She's having lots of trouble breathing because of it, and they put it on hold because of obama, to see if the insurance will cover it, which is something that never happened before. I will hold obama 100% culpable if something happens to my wife before. God Bless, and thanks for getting back. Pastor Marc
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Just be careful someone isn't using obamacare as an excuse. Keep in mind that the ACA doesn't go into effect until Jan 1 so, if someone is telling you that you should challenge them. Also if wifey qualifies by age for medicare there is no obamacare impact on medicare that would somehow affect a carotid artery procedure.

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Oct 27, 2013 19:17:08   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
Yea we're both on medicare. I don't have to use it except like last Feb 19th when it was -35 and I had a heart attack. Because the V.A. is 50 miles away, the ambulance only takes you to the closest hospital. I have no car, and with wife she's experiencing bouts of dizziness like she's going to pass out. Her Dr was so upset he called the clinic they sent her to for a 2nd Ultra sound. I feel it's all about money, cause the one they did at the hospital should be enough. They put her on Cresstor, and said she's only 65% clogged. But it's not equal on each side, that 65% is all on 1 side. So tomorrow she'll find out what's what, and at the same time the VA van will be coming for me, so until I get back home won't know what's what. I keep praying that the other place sells I've dropped 15,000 from the original asking price, and I put over 80,000 into it making it energy effecient, and am down to $50,000. I don't care about the money, I just want to see it sold so we can be together again. I even have it as owner finaced with $30,000 down, 500 a month rent all of it applied to the principle, and after 2 years a balloon payment for the balance.

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Oct 27, 2013 22:14:04   #
rumitoid
 
DocSavage wrote:
Thanks for the wise words rumitoid. If it comes to pass and I do make it to D.C., I will be preaching on the Lawlessness of gov't, 1 John 3:4; 2 Timothy 3; 2Timothy 4; Genesis 19; and every utterance that the Holy Spirit deems fit in bringing the word of Our Father to a place that's not only abandoning his word, but through our dictator try to make all religious practices illegal as in the Middle East. I will never give into this, and will fight it head on with God's Word. My personal messages to my gov't officials always come back in a bulk letter made up response. As great as it seemed, the only good that came out of these past recent drives on D.C. was opening up the memorials to our ww2 Vets. But other then that what I thought they were going there to do was mis interpreted by me. I thought they were going to serve our gov't walking papers. My only premise is to let these ungodly people hear the word of Our Lord, that he may open eyes, and open ears. For I will knock, and see if that door opens for me, I shall seek out every blasphemous politician right to the President, and I shall ask the Lord, Our Father to fill me with all the words needed. I am well aware my time grows short, and I Pray with all my heart, and all my soul, and all my might, that this comes to pass before I do. N'Christ, Jesus Amen Pastor Marc
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Hmmm... What you propose seems to follow the path of the prophets of old. And I feel you are honest in this attempt. However, and I may be mistaken, you seem to have a political lean. What was Paul's attitude to the pagan practices and ongoing atrocities of Rome? What did Christ have to say on the matter? Did something in the way we interact with the world change from the OT to the NT?
There is no liberal or conservative, no right or left, no Democrat or Republican in truth. Truth is eternal. It does not pander to the world or earthly institutions. The kingdom of heaven is not of this world. And we are all citizens of heaven--aliens, strangers and foreigners in any and all earthly kingdoms. If this is your ambassadorship, then go in peace.

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Oct 27, 2013 23:31:33   #
DocSavage Loc: Wisconsin
 
rumitoid wrote:
Hmmm... What you propose seems to follow the path of the prophets of old. And I feel you are honest in this attempt. However, and I may be mistaken, you seem to have a political lean. What was Paul's attitude to the pagan practices and ongoing atrocities of Rome? What did Christ have to say on the matter? Did something in the way we interact with the world change from the OT to the NT?
There is no liberal or conservative, no right or left, no Democrat or Republican in truth. Truth is eternal. It does not pander to the world or earthly institutions. The kingdom of heaven is not of this world. And we are all citizens of heaven--aliens, strangers and foreigners in any and all earthly kingdoms. If this is your ambassadorship, then go in peace.
Hmmm... What you propose seems to follow the path ... (show quote)


Oh yes, it most surly is a calling. Just as the feeling I had in the pit of my stomach when I new before I lost the use of my legs, I had to fly again. And even though it was only for a 1 1/2 yrs. I am ever thankful for Our Father letting me enjoy that time. I just don't feel that Our Father wants me to just sit here, and crawl around in the back to keep my blood circulating. I do have a gifted special connection with wildlife, and you'd think I fear the presence of a Wolf, or Blackbear, more then what I know I'll face in D.C. I by no means claim to be a prophet, but there's a story about that Camel in my profile pic. 6 years ago, the 1st time I really left home in 35 years to visit a Nam buddy in Texas for his 60th. It was only 3 days I spent, but he took me to his son-in- laws place. Up to that time I thought I'd met people with $$$$$, but he put them all to shame. I couldn't imagine having that kinda wealth, nor would I want it. But he owns land that goes past the Horizon, and imports exotic animals from Africa, and other exotic locations. They have a regular Safari Cart to drive guests around in. The camel you see was wayyyyy off from us. I had Quad, the son-in-law stop, and I got out of the cart. I stood looking at that Camel, and he looked back at me, then started to run. They were calling me to get in the cart but I couldn't. When that Camel came up to me he stopped, and lowered his head and pressed his face firmly against mine. It was as though there was a bond between us that defied time. Reading's never been one of my strong forte's and many times have to reread a page 3 or 4 times before it sinks in. So I don't remember if I mentioned it, but I have 5 different Bible Versions here, all with OT and NT in them. Each version is different in the aspect of references in the middle and bottom of the pages. Which help me a lot in understanding how closely related they are. So my time isn't boring and now that the V.A. finally made me some glasses with Bi-Focals that really help it's wonderful. I bought generic reading glasses and they did the same thing, but now I don't have to keep switching. One of my greatest joys is finding Old Testament Prophecy declaring the coming of one in the wilderness, Christ. Just as The Book Of Daniel lays out a Blueprint for The Book Of Revelations. I posted here quite a while ago, to you and others, but some woman back there started giving me a lot of Hassles, so I just stood away for a long time. I don't like people that start lies about someone, as she did me, and I hate arguing. No woman or man has the right to judge another, lest they be judged themselves. Because I answered some comments with scripture that held the very answer, she accused me of Pride, and went on to accuse me of sin by quoting a bible verse. But she didn't stop there, and I just quit coming here for a long time. Maybe Politics and religion don't mix, but the Old Testament sure talks a lot about the 2. And how quickly the Jews would turn from God, and then made to suffer and loose many battles, before turning back to God, then down the line turn again. And the constant battles between Judea and Israel happened so often that through the Old Testament you can't find an 8 year period that there wasn't some war going on. If I was one that saw Moses hold up his Staff and say, "See the power of God", as God parted the Red Sea, I would be in awe and wonderment the rest of my life. Yet when they reached the other side and God closed the Seas on the Egyptians, shortly after Moses started his climb up Mt Sinai. And it sure didn't take long for Dathan to get them wound up and sinning at the foot of the very Mt, where God wrote those 10 commandments with his finger in Stone. And now I've gotten my excitement up again with the maybe finding remnants of Chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. What really hurts me to the quick is how this latest generation has turned from God, how this insane Dictator can continue to murder millions of baby's, and now allowing Nurse practitioners to do abortions, to increase the amount of these murders by 2 fold. The to even take that most precious of all gifts, that survived the abortion process, and come out of the womb whole, and as secretary's affirmed they heard that baby's first and last breathe of air end in a terrible scream. Am I suppose to say May God have Mercy on his Soul. That I cannot do. I claim, as a Pastor now my right to discern right from wrong, and Evil will be met with Evil, and for all that this obama has already done, I want my chance to tell this monster every word from God that's necessary, as it is written. Daily I pray for that influence from the Holy Spirit to guide my words, if ever granted the opportunity. I find it difficult that Our Father has let this man go on as long as he has. Being a Vet, even though it was a different war, with more cumbersome gear back then, we are put in a position to find out things embedded so deeply in our brain, that otherwise we never would have known, stays with you for the rest of your days. I can truly say that if I was made to serve a 2nd tour in Nam, I'd be writing you from Canada now instead of Wi. Well our military today under this Dictator has no choice, and even when they reach their full ETS, this mad monster obama started that stop loss program, and forces them to go back again.
This is sheer stupidity and insanity. This useless dictator thinks nothing at all of our men serving, nor does he care when they pay the ultimate price by an Islamic Cowards IED. He goes through the motions on camera, but off camera he's laughing. I remember watching Angel Flight come in, and he and Michelle were sitting there watching and she had the nerve to say all this over a dam flag. They should be made to pay for their Treason, that's so obvious to all of us, and if I can be that instrument of God, by his words through me it would be worth giving my life to do. Yea, I'm as real as can be, and have a big heart, but it's been crushed too many times by man to ever think for a 2nd that I'd put faith in a mortal man again. Never happen. It's pledged to Our Father and the Son. So the only way to wrap this up is with 1 Corinthians 6:8-19 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Sexual Immorality

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
N'Christ Jesus's Name Amen Pastor Marc

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[quote=DocSavage]Oh yes, it most surly is a calling. Just as the feeling I had in the pit of my stomach when I new before I lost the use of my legs, I had to fly again. And even though it was only for a 1 1/2 yrs. I am ever thankful for Our Father letting me enjoy that time. I just don't feel that Our Father wants me to just sit here, and crawl around in the back to keep my blood circulating. I do have a gifted special connection with wildlife, and you'd think I fear the presence of a Wolf, or Blackbear, more then what I know I'll face in D.C. I by no means claim to be a prophet, but there's a story about that Camel in my profile pic. 6 years ago, the 1st time I really left home in 35 years to visit a Nam buddy in Texas for his 60th. It was only 3 days I spent, but he took me to his son-in- laws place. Up to that time I thought I'd met people with $$$$$, but he put them all to shame. I couldn't imagine having that kinda wealth, nor would I want it. But he owns land that goes past the Horizon, and imports exotic animals from Africa, and other exotic locations. They have a regular Safari Cart to drive guests around in. The camel you see was wayyyyy off from us. I had Quad, the son-in-law stop, and I got out of the cart. I stood looking at that Camel, and he looked back at me, then started to run. They were calling me to get in the cart but I couldn't. When that Camel came up to me he stopped, and lowered his head and pressed his face firmly against mine. It was as though there was a bond between us that defied time. Reading's never been one of my strong forte's and many times have to reread a page 3 or 4 times before it sinks in. So I don't remember if I mentioned it, but I have 5 different Bible Versions here, all with OT and NT in them. Each version is different in the aspect of references in the middle and bottom of the pages. Which help me a lot in understanding how closely related they are. So my time isn't boring and now that the V.A. finally made me some glasses with Bi-Focals that really help it's wonderful. I bought generic reading glasses and they did the same thing, but now I don't have to keep switching. One of my greatest joys is finding Old Testament Prophecy declaring the coming of one in the wilderness, Christ. Just as The Book Of Daniel lays out a Blueprint for The Book Of Revelations. I posted here quite a while ago, to you and others, but some woman back there started giving me a lot of Hassles, so I just stood away for a long time. I don't like people that start lies about someone, as she did me, and I hate arguing. No woman or man has the right to judge another, lest they be judged themselves. Because I answered some comments with scripture that held the very answer, she accused me of Pride, and went on to accuse me of sin by quoting a bible verse. But she didn't stop there, and I just quit coming here for a long time. Maybe Politics and religion don't mix, but the Old Testament sure talks a lot about the 2. And how quickly the Jews would turn from God, and then made to suffer and loose many battles, before turning back to God, then down the line turn again. And the constant battles between Judea and Israel happened so often that through the Old Testament you can't find an 8 year period that there wasn't some war going on. If I was one that saw Moses hold up his Staff and say, "See the power of God", as God parted the Red Sea, I would be in awe and wonderment the rest of my life. Yet when they reached the other side and God closed the Seas on the Egyptians, shortly after Moses started his climb up Mt Sinai. And it sure didn't take long for Dathan to get them wound up and sinning at the foot of the very Mt, where God wrote those 10 commandments with his finger in Stone. And now I've gotten my excitement up again with the maybe finding remnants of Chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. What really hurts me to the quick is how this latest generation has turned from God, how this insane Dictator can continue to murder millions of baby's, and now allowing Nurse practitioners to do abortions, to increase the amount of these murders by 2 fold. The to even take that most precious of all gifts, that survived the abortion process, and come out of the womb whole, and as secretary's affirmed they heard that baby's first and last breathe of air end in a terrible scream. Am I suppose to say May God have Mercy on his Soul. That I cannot do. I claim, as a Pastor now my right to discern right from wrong, and Evil will be met with Evil, and for all that this obama has already done, I want my chance to tell this monster every word from God that's necessary, as it is written. Daily I pray for that influence from the Holy Spirit to guide my words, if ever granted the opportunity. I find it difficult that Our Father has let this man go on as long as he has. Being a Vet, even though it was a different war, with more cumbersome gear back then, we are put in a position to find out things embedded so deeply in our brain, that otherwise we never would have known, stays with you for the rest of your days. I can truly say that if I was made to serve a 2nd tour in Nam, I'd be writing you from Canada now instead of Wi. Well our military today under this Dictator has no choice, and even when they reach their full ETS, this mad monster obama started that stop loss program, and forces them to go back again.
This is sheer stupidity and insanity. This useless dictator thinks nothing at all of our men serving, nor does he care when they pay the ultimate price by an Islamic Cowards IED. He goes through the motions on camera, but off camera he's laughing. I remember watching Angel Flight come in, and he and Michelle were sitting there watching and she had the nerve to say all this over a dam flag. They should be made to pay for their Treason, that's so obvious to all of us, and if I can be that instrument of God, by his words through me it would be worth giving my life to do. Yea, I'm as real as can be, and have a big heart, but it's been crushed too many times by man to ever think for a 2nd that I'd put faith in a mortal man again. Never happen. It's pledged to Our Father and the Son. So the only way to wrap this up is with 1 Corinthians 6:8-19 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Sexual Immorality

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
N'Christ Jesus's Name Amen Pastor Marc[/quote]

Paragraphs, please. A heart of Christ cannot be crushed "too many times"; only a vain human one can. Joy alone is the muscle of justice, not any judgment or condemnation

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