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Aug 20, 2015 14:31:33   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I'll try to note when I hear negative stories about Israel on the tv or radio. I just never thought that people give a damn.
The media business is like every other, it's all about the bucks.If Jewish executives and/or others in editorial positions don't bring in the bucks, they are gone! If it seems that most of the stories about the mideast conflict are pro Israel it is because the Palestinians are the ones that always start the conflict. It's hard to criticize a small country fighting for its existence against daily terrorist attacks.
I'll try to note when I hear negative stories abou... (show quote)


Protesting being illegally imprisoned in Gaza and denied enough food, water and other supplies is not a terrorist attack. The relatively harmless rockets fired from Gaza rarely ever cause any damage or kill anyone. Israel has massive weapons given to them by the U.S. The Palestinians have no war planes, no bombs, no tanks, no artillery, no nuclear weapons.
They are incarcerated in the largest open air prison in the world and they have committed no crimes. Wouldn't you do anything you could to protest if you were in that situation?

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Aug 20, 2015 14:51:26   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
If you read the entire story, he was arrested without trial. He was released. Contrast that with the record of Hamas and the terrorist regime that exists in Gaza and the corrupt government in the West Bank. They kidnap and murder prisoners of war and innocent Israelis!
As far as the rockets doing no real damage, it isn't because of lack of effort. The terrorists are always first to start aggression. If there were no rocket attacks, there would be no Israeli military response. It isn't about damage to Israel, it's about making life miserable for Israelis. I know I wouldn't want rockets flying over my head. It also is part of a pr war. When Israel does respond militarily, usually after months of terror attacks, the terrorists use civilian human shields. Thats how they get coverage in what you call the Zionist press! The help that Israel gets from the US is appreciated. Much of the weapons used like tanks and small arms comes from Israel, the US and European arms sources. Israel pays plenty for their defense.
I have an idea, why not stop the conflict, use that money for education and other peaceful purposes and yes help out a new Palestinian state that is at peace with Israel and itself?
payne1000 wrote:
Protesting being illegally imprisoned in Gaza and denied enough food, water and other supplies is not a terrorist attack. The relatively harmless rockets fired from Gaza rarely ever cause any damage or kill anyone. Israel has massive weapons given to them by the U.S. The Palestinians have no war planes, no bombs, no tanks, no artillery, no nuclear weapons.
They are incarcerated in the largest open air prison in the world and they have committed no crimes. Wouldn't you do anything you could to protest if you were in that situation?
Protesting being illegally imprisoned in Gaza and ... (show quote)

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Aug 20, 2015 14:58:43   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
If you read the entire story, he was arrested without trial. He was released. Contrast that with the record of Hamas and the terrorist regime that exists in Gaza and the corrupt government in the West Bank. They kidnap and murder prisoners of war and innocent Israelis!
As far as the rockets doing no real damage, it isn't because of lack of effort. The terrorists are always first to start aggression. If there were no rocket attacks, there would be no Israeli military response. It isn't about damage to Israel, it's about making life miserable for Israelis. I know I wouldn't want rockets flying over my head. It also is part of a pr war. When Israel does respond militarily, usually after months of terror attacks, the terrorists use civilian human shields. Thats how they get coverage in what you call the Zionist press! The help that Israel gets from the US is appreciated. Much of the weapons used like tanks and small arms comes from Israel, the US and European arms sources. Israel pays plenty for their defense.
I have an idea, why not stop the conflict, use that money for education and other peaceful purposes and yes help out a new Palestinian state that is at peace with Israel and itself?
If you read the entire story, he was arrested with... (show quote)


The idea you have does not mention tearing down the prison walls around Gaza and freeing its 2 million inhabitants. They have committed no crimes.
Israel fears these people being free because Israel has committed crimes against them. Many of those in Gaza were put there after their land was taken for Jewish settlements. There is a score to settle and Israel fears a free Gaza.

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Aug 20, 2015 17:00:29   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Israel may be signing a long term agreement with Gaza. We certainly do not fear them. Any crimes committed in Gaza were committed by the terrorists themselves. Launching rockets from schools and hospitals, then hiding behind woman and children. Give me a break.
I believe that you are a Palestinian extremest.You need to change your American flag avatar to a Palestinian flag. You have no sympathy for the poor people of Palestine. A real peace would bring a never before experience of prosperity and security to the Palestinian people. Too bad that they are fed a diet of daily hatred. It does not serve them well!
payne1000 wrote:
The idea you have does not mention tearing down the prison walls around Gaza and freeing its 2 million inhabitants. They have committed no crimes.
Israel fears these people being free because Israel has committed crimes against them. Many of those in Gaza were put there after their land was taken for Jewish settlements. There is a score to settle and Israel fears a free Gaza.

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Aug 20, 2015 17:21:46   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Israel may be signing a long term agreement with Gaza. We certainly do not fear them. Any crimes committed in Gaza were committed by the terrorists themselves. Launching rockets from schools and hospitals, then hiding behind woman and children. Give me a break.
I believe that you are a Palestinian extremest.You need to change your American flag avatar to a Palestinian flag. You have no sympathy for the poor people of Palestine. A real peace would bring a never before experience of prosperity and security to the Palestinian people. Too bad that they are fed a diet of daily hatred. It does not serve them well!
Israel may be signing a long term agreement with G... (show quote)


Look at this map and tell readers where Palestinians would live in the country they formerly owned. Would the peace plan you endorse include returning the land the Zionists stole to the Palestinians?



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Aug 20, 2015 18:44:10   #
tenneman
 
God bless you my child. Please do the research and forget your personal agenda. Here's a consideration to begin with: Since 911 there has been over 25,000 terrorist acts, killing thousands of innocent folks. These attacks were all in the name of Allah committed by Muslims.

Please get back to me when you have an explanation.

tenneman

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Aug 20, 2015 18:51:28   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
payne1000 wrote:
The idea you have does not mention tearing down the prison walls around Gaza and freeing its 2 million inhabitants. They have committed no crimes.
Israel fears these people being free because Israel has committed crimes against them. Many of those in Gaza were put there after their land was taken for Jewish settlements. There is a score to settle and Israel fears a free Gaza.


"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
Golda Meir as quoted in A Land of Our Own : An Oral Autobiography (1973) edited by Marie Syrkin, p. 242

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Aug 20, 2015 19:07:53   #
payne1000
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
Golda Meir as quoted in A Land of Our Own : An Oral Autobiography (1973) edited by Marie Syrkin, p. 242


Golda was referring to all the Arab children Zionists were killing.

Golda was actually LBJ in drag.
Golda was actually LBJ in drag....

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Aug 20, 2015 19:12:38   #
payne1000
 
tenneman wrote:
God bless you my child. Please do the research and forget your personal agenda. Here's a consideration to begin with: Since 911 there has been over 25,000 terrorist acts, killing thousands of innocent folks. These attacks were all in the name of Allah committed by Muslims.

Please get back to me when you have an explanation.

tenneman


Please back up your claim that Muslims have committed 25,000 acts of terrorism since 9/11. Who were the victims of all that alleged terrorism.
I know for a fact that Muslims were not behind 9/11.

Here's evidence which indicates who took part in the planning and execution of 9/11:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

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Aug 21, 2015 20:09:58   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Payne, You mixed Jewish history, ( of which you know nothing about), with Christian theology ( of which you know nothing about and don't even believe in), in order to defame a people that you know even less about in order to support terrorism and murder. Then you troll the web looking for people that have similar views in order to justify your hatred! I think I'll let you and your co fascists eagleye, Jeffhunter and a few others talk to yourselves and congratulate each other on your level of ignorance!!
payne1000 wrote:
Please back up your claim that Muslims have committed 25,000 acts of terrorism since 9/11. Who were the victims of all that alleged terrorism.
I know for a fact that Muslims were not behind 9/11.

Here's evidence which indicates who took part in the planning and execution of 9/11:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk
Please back up your claim that Muslims have commi... (show quote)

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Aug 21, 2015 21:09:06   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Payne, You mixed Jewish history, ( of which you know nothing about), with Christian theology ( of which you know nothing about and don't even believe in), in order to defame a people that you know even less about in order to support terrorism and murder. Then you troll the web looking for people that have similar views in order to justify your hatred! I think I'll let you and your co fascists eagleye, Jeffhunter and a few others talk to yourselves and congratulate each other on your level of ignorance!!
Payne, You mixed Jewish history, ( of which you kn... (show quote)


Still can't refute the 9/11 evidence against your criminal homeland, can you, salty?
Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed that you are so impotent?

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Aug 22, 2015 08:02:40   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I can surmise what happened. I'll respond to that comment, if and when you comment on the questions I posed to you. My " criminal" homeland happens to be the United States of America. You seem to be a little judgmental and harsh on the republic.
You seem to be hung up on a tragedy that occurred over forty years ago, could be understood in the times in which it occurred and is irrelevant to anything in the Middle East today.
You have not even attempted to explain how a so called Marine vet could accept a chant from a people of, death to America and we love the Taliban, not to mention their supporters blowing up US Marines in Beirut, Lebanon.
payne1000 wrote:
Still can't refute the 9/11 evidence against your criminal homeland, can you, salty?
Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed that you are so impotent?

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Aug 22, 2015 08:16:13   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I can surmise what happened. I'll respond to that comment, if and when you comment on the questions I posed to you. My " criminal" homeland happens to be the United States of America. You seem to be a little judgmental and harsh on the republic.
You seem to be hung up on a tragedy that occurred over forty years ago, could be understood in the times in which it occurred and is irrelevant to anything in the Middle East today.
You have not even attempted to explain how a so called Marine vet could accept a chant from a people of, death to America and we love the Taliban, not to mention their supporters blowing up US Marines in Beirut, Lebanon.
I can surmise what happened. I'll respond to that ... (show quote)


Thomas Jefferson wrote, "An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
My goal is to help the citizenry of America to be educated instead of indoctrinated by the Zionist-controlled media.
For whatever reason, your goal is to attempt to aid the Zionist indoctrination of Americans.

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Aug 22, 2015 10:28:52   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Your BS concerning a Zionist controlled media is as tiresome as it is false. I'm sure that Mr. Murdock and Mr. Warner would be surprised to find out that they are Zionists.
You still have not answered my question, how could a marine vet , support a people that screams, death to America, we love the Tailban and refers to our blessed land as the great Satan? I don't think Mr. Jefferson would support such an enemy!
payne1000 wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote, "An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
My goal is to help the citizenry of America to be educated instead of indoctrinated by the Zionist-controlled media.
For whatever reason, your goal is to attempt to aid the Zionist indoctrination of Americans.

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Aug 22, 2015 11:07:46   #
payne1000
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Your BS concerning a Zionist controlled media is as tiresome as it is false. I'm sure that Mr. Murdock and Mr. Warner would be surprised to find out that they are Zionists.
You still have not answered my question, how could a marine vet , support a people that screams, death to America, we love the Tailban and refers to our blessed land as the great Satan? I don't think Mr. Jefferson would support such an enemy!


Judaism Online lists Murdoch as being Jewish. Murdoch has admitted publicly that he is a Zionist. I don't know who you're referring to as Mr. Warner. He wasn't on my list. http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jews-in-the-media-hollywood/

The militant wing of Muslims have been created by U.S./Israel aggression in the Middle East. There is much evidence that the U.S. and Israel supply weapons and other supplies to ISIL/ISIS terrorists.
If any Muslims screams death to America, the actions of the U.S. government and their allies over the last half century have given them good reason. If we stop massacring Muslims and invading and occupying their countries for Israel's benefit, the world would be a much better and safer place.

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