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May 14, 2015 18:25:29   #
Airforceone
 
Homestead wrote:
The Koran is considered by Muslims and traditional Islamic theology to be dictated, word for word, by God himself, (by Allah himself) through the angel Gabriel, to the prophet Mohammad.
As a result, every word of it, are the words of God himself. Every word of the Koran, unless it is canceled by another section of the Koran itself, is valid for all time and:
It cannot be questioned.
It cannot be reformed.
It cannot be changed, within the Islamic context.

This means that moderate Muslims, peaceful Muslims, if they are sincere, have to reject entirely Koranic literalism, but, to do so, puts them outside the sphere of anything that has been considered orthodox Islam throughout history. Because, to do so is to reject the very basic premise of Islam, that this is a book, that is dictated by God and is a perfect copy, of a perfect book, the mother book, that has existed forever, with Allah, in heaven.

So, what does the Koran teach?
Let's see:

2:65 Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes
“And well you know there were those among you [Jews] that transgressed the Sabbath, and We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’

2:89 Unbelievers, particularly Jews, are accursed
“When there came to them [Jews] a Book from Allah, confirming what was with them -- and they afore times prayed for victory over the unbelievers -- when there came to them that they recognized, they disbelieved in it; and the curse of Allah is on the unbelievers.

2:191-193 Fight and kill unbelievers until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies
“And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them -- such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”

3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam
“Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers -- for whoso does that belongs not to Allah in anything -- unless you have a fear of them. Allah warns you that You beware of Him, and unto Allah is the homecoming.”

3:110-112 Muslims are the best of people, Jews have earned Allah’s anger
“You are the best nation ever brought forth to men, bidding to honor, and forbidding dishonor, and believing in Allah. Had the People of the Book believed, it were better for them; some of them are believers, but the most of them are ungodly. They will not harm you, except a little hurt; and if they fight with you, they will turn on you their backs; then they will not be helped. Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon, except they be in a bond of Allah, and a bond of the people; they will be laden with the burden of Allah’s anger, and poverty shall be pitched on them; that, because they disbelieved in Allah’s signs, and slew the Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and were transgressors.”

3:151 Allah will cast terror into the unbelievers' hearts
“We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror, for that they have associated with Allah that for which He sent down never authority; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers.”

3:181 Jews are bound for hell
“Allah has heard the saying of those who said, ‘Surely Allah is poor, and we are rich.’ We shall write down what they have said, and their slaying the Prophets without right, and We shall say, ‘Taste the chastisement of the burning.’”

4:34 Beat disobedient women
“Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great.”

4:160 Jews do evil, turn people away from Allah
“And for the evildoing of those of Jewry, We have forbidden them certain good things that were permitted to them, and for their barring from Allah’s way many…”

5:33 Crucify or amputate the hands and feet of those who make war against Allah and Muhammad
"This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement."

5:41 Jews listen to falsehood and pervert the meaning of their Scriptures
“O Messenger, let them not grieve thee that vie with one another in unbelief, such men as say with their mouths ‘We believe’ but their hearts believe not; and the Jews who listen to falsehood, listen to other folk, who have not come to thee, perverting words from their meanings, saying, ‘If you are given this, then take it; if you are not given it, beware!’ Whomsoever Allah desires to try, thou canst not avail him anything with Allah. Those are they whose hearts Allah desired not to purify; for them is degradation in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”

5:51 Don’t take Jews and Christians as friends and allies
“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”

5:59-60 Jews cursed, made into apes and swine
“Say: ‘People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?’ Say: ‘Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whomsoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is wroth, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshipers of idols -- they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.’”

5:64 Jews accursed
“The Jews have said, ‘Allah’s hand is fettered.’ Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. Nay, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; and We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and Allah loves not the workers of corruption.”

5:72 Christians are unbelievers
“They are unbelievers who say, ‘Allah is the Messiah, Mary’s son.’ For the Messiah said, ‘Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord. Verily whoso associates with Allah anything, Allah shall prohibit him entrance to Paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire; and wrongdoers shall have no helpers.’”

5:82 Jews most hostile to the Muslims
“Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers are the Jews and the idolaters; and thou wilt surely find the nearest of them in love to the believers are those who say ‘We are Christians’; that, because some of them are priests and monks, and they wax not proud.”

6:91 Jews deny, conceal divine revelations
“They measured not Allah with His true measure when they said, ‘Allah has not sent down aught on any mortal.’ Say: ‘Who sent down the Book that Moses brought as a light and a guidance to men? You put it into parchments, revealing them, and hiding much; and you were taught that you knew not, you and your fathers.’ Say: ‘Allah.’ Then leave them alone, playing their game of plunging.”

6:146 Jews insolent
“And to those of Jewry We have forbidden every beast with claws; and of oxen and sheep We have forbidden them the fat of them, save what their backs carry, or their entrails, or what is mingled with bone; that We recompensed them for their insolence; surely We speak truly.”

7:166 Jews are apes
“And when they [Jews] turned in disdain from that forbidding We said to them, ‘Be you apes, miserably slinking!’”

8:12 Allah will terrorize unbelievers; Muslims should behead them
“When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!’”

8:39 Fight unbelievers until Islam reigns supreme
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.”

8:60 Make war against enemies of Allah
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”

9:5 Slay the idolaters
“Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”

9:28 Idolaters unclean
“O believers, the idolaters are indeed unclean; so let them not come near the Holy Mosque after this year of theirs. If you fear poverty, Allah shall surely enrich you of His bounty, if He will; Allah is All-knowing; All-wise.”

9:29 Fight and subjugate the Jews and Christians
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden -- such men as practice not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book -- until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.”

9:30 Jews and Christians assailed by Allah
“The Jews say, ‘Ezra is the Son of Allah’; the Christians say, ‘The Messiah is the Son of Allah.’ That is the utterance of their mouths, conforming with the unbelievers before them. Allah assail them! How they are perverted!”

9:31 Jews and Christians have taken their clergy and holy men as lords
“They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from Allah, and the Messiah, Mary’s son -- and they were commanded to serve but One Allah; there is no god but He; glory be to Him, above that they associate.”

9:73 Be harsh with unbelievers
“O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna -- an evil homecoming!”

9:111 Paradise guaranteed to those who kill and are killed for Allah
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfills his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”

9:123 Fight the unbelievers, be harsh with them
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the god-fearing.”

47:4 Behead and slaughter the unbelievers; take others captive
“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.”

48:29 Be merciful to believers, not unbelievers
"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another."

62:6 Jews should long for death
“Say: ‘You of Jewry, if you assert that you are the friends of Allah, apart from other men, then do you long for death, if you speak truly.’”

98:6 Unbelievers are the worst of creatures
“The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the Fire of Gehenna, therein dwelling forever; those are the worst of creatures.”

&#9733; WHAT ISLAM IS NOT &#9733;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E

What Normal Muslims Think - And Europe Fails to Understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg#t=89

American Muslim Children Taught to Hate
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate?fb_action_ids=932408324544&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[467490229988102]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

Islamist Leader: ‘Our Religion And Our Way Of Worship Is Nothing But Killings, Killings And Killings … Killing Is My Job’
http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/islamist-leader-our-religion-and-our-way-of-worship-is-nothing-but-killings-killings-and-killings-killing-is-my-job/

Muslim Leader Admits Islam Not a Religion of Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=64V09tTIjR4

'Don't they have any compassion? I'm better off dead'
11-year-old girl: Marry me off? I'll kill myself
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/11-year-old-girl-marry-me-off-ill-kill-myself/

Philadelphia: Mosque leaders applying sharia law, try to cut off suspected thief’s hand
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/philadelphia-mosque-leaders-applying-sharia-law-try-to-cut-off-suspected-thiefs-hand/

US Imam preaching theft, rape and murder in the US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZCji5jeMQ

Politics: Kuwaiti scholar says it's OK for Muslim men to beat their wives, because they probably won't die
http://www.caintv.com/kuwaiti-scholar-says-its-ok-fo

New York: Muslim who beat his wife to death for not serving him goat dinner says he had right to “discipline” her
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/new-york-muslim-who-beat-his-wife-to-death-for-not-serving-him-goat-dinner-says-he-had-right-to-discipline-her?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=91f5a761eb-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-91f5a761eb-123457681#

10 Acts of Jihad in America That Americans Haven’t Heard About
http://pjmedia.com/blog/10-acts-of-jihad-in-america-that-americans-havent-heard-about/?singlepage=true

The truth - The voice of an ungrateful terrorist mother
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/video/show?id=4301673%3AVideo%3A2995566&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ

MUSLIM HOSPITALITY IN LONDON -- A SCARY VIDEO LIKE THIS COULD BE COMING TO A STREET NEAR YOU?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

Muslims are not suppossed to get mad, But this one is raging out on a nice woman in red! .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5L9SExquao

Anti US Protests By Muslims Turns Violent In Sydney Streets of Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYzP24J6A4E

A few things everyone needs to know about the Koran and Islam
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296590#ixzz2wv5S1aaJ


You know..............................someday you ought to wake up.

Three Stages of Jihad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_468896&feature=iv&src_vid=-SoXs0_rHY&v=ERou_Q5l9Gw


This is what a progressive liberal sounds like, once the truth has seeped into his head.

Eric Allen Bell - "#Islamophobia or Islamo-Reality?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZxBLJP0t03w

Counter Jihad is about HUMAN RIGHTS - Eric Allen Bell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SwkADfQelU


Don't worry............I have faith, that you are too dense, to ever see the light.
The Koran is considered by Muslims and traditional... (show quote)


Show me one religion that does not advocate violence. So it's your agenda to exterminatv2.2 billion Muslims around the world. Why not try a little diplomacy instead of the Bush agenda just invade Iraq and kill 40,000 Muslims and injure 200,000 on false intel and create a nation of ISIS so what is your solution to exterminate 2.2 billion muslims

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May 14, 2015 18:33:23   #
Homestead
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Facts about Islam. It must not be a religious category but a political system invading the West for its own conquest. it must not be covered under the First Amendment Rights because it is not a religion.

When a person is saturated on lies, grew up on lies, and nurtured on lies, the total sum of that person is made up of lies. The mind set of that person has been programmed to lie. And that is the normal behavior of that person.
Therefore, when events happen that did not support the theories inside that person's brain, that person turns around and REVERSE the facts of the events to FALSEHOODS and LIES to satisfy his emotions and brain substance.

SOP from Muslims are always lying if the facts did not support what they want to see or know. So a Muslim is usually not reliable to present theories and events contrary to his set of mind. That person will turn around and find all kinds of Justification to nullify facts that happened.

Last Feb 2015, during the National Prayer Meeting at the WH, where president Obama invited all religious leaders, like Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists’, and Christians. This was what he presented to the audience. He blamed the Crusades of Christians on the cruelties of the Crusades against Muslims. He also praised Islam as a religion of peace, and the contributions of Islam to civilization. Well the facts do not support that.

The reasons for the Crusades were to save millions of Christians enslaved, murdered, and raped by Muslims. Another reason was to take back Jerusalem which was the place where Jesus ministered, and where he died and rose from the dead to heaven.

Most democrats are programmed to support the president’s theories, thus giving Muslims the rights of free speech as provided in the constitution. Giving the Sharia Law and Islam to rapidly build its strength and mosques all over the United States.

Under president Obama, public schools kids have been brainwashed for requiring curriculum that teaches about Islam history, and protection rights under the Constitution

Watch the factual presentation of Dr. Bill Warner.to find the truth about Islam, and how it conquered the Middle East and parts of Europe. Thank you.

Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr. Bill Warner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&feature=youtu.be
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This women deals with Islam being unconstitutional.

Publius Huldah's videos, what can Americans do about Islam?
http://vimeo.com/63431881

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May 14, 2015 19:05:26   #
Radiance3
 
tenneman wrote:
There are specifics to understand when one compares the Bible to Islamic texts. Let's cover a few:

First we need to understand that the Old Testament is a record of Jewish history and is extremely violent because it comes from an interpretation of Jewish survival in a pagan world. Monotheists were not popular in those days.

Although God commands the Jews to reek havoc upon their enemies, pagan tribes with nomenclatures ending in "ites who saw them as a threat, he never requires them to encumber non-believers in any way.

Yes, the Old Testament is violent and full of hate for the enemies of the Jews but if you notice it was all about the defensive posture relative to the problem of territory where Jews could survive and prosper.

Fact: No where in the Old Testament does God order the destruction or conversion of non-believers.

Enter the New Testament:

Jesus, the revolutionary within Judaism, speaks to love of your enemies. No where in the New or Old Testament does God or his prophets command the death or destruction of non-believers.

This is a much ignored fact when one attempts to see an equivalency between Judaic texts and the three major texts of Islam ( Qur'an, Hadith and Sunna).

While there are feelings portrayed by Christian kings and rulers who may have become evangelical to an extreme there is no word from God or His prophets wishing harm to non-believers.

The evolution of Christianity was violent but we must not confuse man's weaknesses related to his instructions from his God.

Re Islam the text is exact. The structure of Islamic texts is a one man show accepted as the infallible word of Allah. There are over a hundred verses in the Qur'an qualifying the intolerance toward non-believers.

The Jihadist verses allow religious Muslims no leeway in interpretation and these tenets are being brain washed into Muslim children in multitudes as we speak.

This is an entirely new problem for freedom loving folks. Never in the history of man kind have we faced an enemy such as this.
It's not one psycho or a party of same. It is 1.6 billion potential whackos sitting on the global essence of economic life. OIL!

tenneman
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Here is my answer to Islam, the pagan god of Mohammad:

Violence

Question:
Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?

Summary Answer:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill in his cause.

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

Bukhari 1:35 "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship." One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

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May 16, 2015 12:02:26   #
tenneman
 
I would ask you to show me a religion that currently advocates violence as I truly only know of one.

tenneman

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May 16, 2015 12:32:43   #
Airforceone
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Here is my answer to Islam, the pagan god of Mohammad:

Violence

Question:
Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?

Summary Answer:
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse). Allah will allow the disabled into Paradise, but will provide a larger reward to those who are able to kill in his cause.

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

Bukhari 1:35 "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship." One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.
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Great post now read your own bible and post it.

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May 16, 2015 18:09:27   #
Homestead
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Great post now read your own bible and post it.


From the bible:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8 “You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”


Matthew 7:12 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Golden Rule:

So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Mark 12:29 - 31
One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"

Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'

The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. There is no other commandment greater than these.




Now, with love, from.................... ISLAM!

Nigeria: Jihad mass murder death toll at Christian village reaches 106
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/nigeria-jihad-mass-murder-death-toll-at-christian-village-reaches-106?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

Interfaith outreach in Nigeria: Chanting “Allahu akbar,” Muslims murder over 50 Christians
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/interfaith-outreach-in-nigeria-chanting-allahu-akbar-muslims-murder-over-50-christians?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

The Nairobi Mall Massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8F2K9Eg_U0

Al Qaeda told Kenya mall jihadis to find a way to separate Muslims from Infidels and kill only Infidels
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/jihadis-quizzed-people-on-islam-to-separate-muslims-from-infidels-and-kill-only-infidels.html

Unbelievable! – Muslims in Nigeria (Picture of people burnt alive)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/unbelievable-muslims-in-nigeria-2532102.html

The truth - The voice of an ungrateful terrorist mother
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/video/show?id=4301673%3AVideo%3A2995566&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

MUSLIM HOSPITALITY IN LONDON -- A SCARY VIDEO LIKE THIS COULD BE COMING TO A STREET NEAR YOU?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

What Normal Muslims Think - And Europe Fails to Understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg#t=89

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ

American Muslim Children Taught to Hate
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate?fb_action_ids=932408324544&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[467490229988102]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

A few things everyone needs to know about the Koran and Islam
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296590#ixzz2wv5S1aaJ

Islamist Leader: ‘Our Religion And Our Way Of Worship Is Nothing But Killings, Killings And Killings … Killing Is My Job’
http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/islamist-leader-our-religion-and-our-way-of-worship-is-nothing-but-killings-killings-and-killings-killing-is-my-job/

&#9733; WHAT ISLAM IS NOT &#9733;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E

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May 16, 2015 19:24:00   #
Radiance3
 
Homestead wrote:
From the bible:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8 “You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”


Matthew 7:12 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Golden Rule:

So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Mark 12:29 - 31
One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"

Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'

The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. There is no other commandment greater than these.




Now, with love, from.................... ISLAM!

Nigeria: Jihad mass murder death toll at Christian village reaches 106
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/nigeria-jihad-mass-murder-death-toll-at-christian-village-reaches-106?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

Interfaith outreach in Nigeria: Chanting “Allahu akbar,” Muslims murder over 50 Christians
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/interfaith-outreach-in-nigeria-chanting-allahu-akbar-muslims-murder-over-50-christians?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

The Nairobi Mall Massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8F2K9Eg_U0

Al Qaeda told Kenya mall jihadis to find a way to separate Muslims from Infidels and kill only Infidels
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/jihadis-quizzed-people-on-islam-to-separate-muslims-from-infidels-and-kill-only-infidels.html

Unbelievable! – Muslims in Nigeria (Picture of people burnt alive)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/unbelievable-muslims-in-nigeria-2532102.html

The truth - The voice of an ungrateful terrorist mother
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/video/show?id=4301673%3AVideo%3A2995566&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

MUSLIM HOSPITALITY IN LONDON -- A SCARY VIDEO LIKE THIS COULD BE COMING TO A STREET NEAR YOU?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

What Normal Muslims Think - And Europe Fails to Understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg#t=89

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ

American Muslim Children Taught to Hate
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate?fb_action_ids=932408324544&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[467490229988102]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

A few things everyone needs to know about the Koran and Islam
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296590#ixzz2wv5S1aaJ

Islamist Leader: ‘Our Religion And Our Way Of Worship Is Nothing But Killings, Killings And Killings … Killing Is My Job’
http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/islamist-leader-our-religion-and-our-way-of-worship-is-nothing-but-killings-killings-and-killings-killing-is-my-job/

&#9733; WHAT ISLAM IS NOT &#9733;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E
From the bible: br br The Ten Commandments (Ex... (show quote)


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Islam is NOT RELIGION. It is a political ideology of Muhammad started in the 7th century or about 622 AD, in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. He was a military leader. His purpose was for power, wealth, and sexual enslavement of women,
After his death, many of his followers continued Islam, the name of Mohammad's ideology.

They conquered and killed millions of the inhabitants of the Middle East like Christians, Pagans, Jews, Hindus. They took away their lands, and destroyed their antiquities and properties, and church of worship. Their ways of fighting were so brutal. Killing all non-believers for their moon god allah.
Their commandments are killing all the non-believers. Peace will come only when the whole world is converted to Islam.

Fact of the matter is since Islam is not a religion, it must not be given the First Amendment Rights here in the US.
But they are masquerading is as a religion.

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May 16, 2015 20:34:23   #
Airforceone
 
Homestead wrote:
From the bible:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8 “You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”


Matthew 7:12 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Golden Rule:

So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Mark 12:29 - 31
One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"

Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'

The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. There is no other commandment greater than these.




Now, with love, from.................... ISLAM!

Nigeria: Jihad mass murder death toll at Christian village reaches 106
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/nigeria-jihad-mass-murder-death-toll-at-christian-village-reaches-106?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

Interfaith outreach in Nigeria: Chanting “Allahu akbar,” Muslims murder over 50 Christians
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/interfaith-outreach-in-nigeria-chanting-allahu-akbar-muslims-murder-over-50-christians?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=5a4806e62d-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-5a4806e62d-123457681

The Nairobi Mall Massacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8F2K9Eg_U0

Al Qaeda told Kenya mall jihadis to find a way to separate Muslims from Infidels and kill only Infidels
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/jihadis-quizzed-people-on-islam-to-separate-muslims-from-infidels-and-kill-only-infidels.html

Unbelievable! – Muslims in Nigeria (Picture of people burnt alive)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/unbelievable-muslims-in-nigeria-2532102.html

The truth - The voice of an ungrateful terrorist mother
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/video/video/show?id=4301673%3AVideo%3A2995566&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

MUSLIM HOSPITALITY IN LONDON -- A SCARY VIDEO LIKE THIS COULD BE COMING TO A STREET NEAR YOU?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

What Normal Muslims Think - And Europe Fails to Understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg#t=89

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ

American Muslim Children Taught to Hate
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate?fb_action_ids=932408324544&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[467490229988102]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

A few things everyone needs to know about the Koran and Islam
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296590#ixzz2wv5S1aaJ

Islamist Leader: ‘Our Religion And Our Way Of Worship Is Nothing But Killings, Killings And Killings … Killing Is My Job’
http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/islamist-leader-our-religion-and-our-way-of-worship-is-nothing-but-killings-killings-and-killings-killing-is-my-job/

&#9733; WHAT ISLAM IS NOT &#9733;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E
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There's 2.2 billion around the world so get going kill them all. On your way kill all the illegals, then hit the poor districts in our cities and kill all the poor.

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May 16, 2015 20:54:41   #
Lou239 Loc: South Jersey
 
Ricktloml wrote:
This is serious. There is a concerted effort to propagandize our children in order to prepare them to "submit". It is hideous


Very similar to Germany in the 1930's when Nazi’s captured and reset the minds of the youth - they even had children warning of parental actions and thinking!

They want to divorce the true political/militant arm of Muslim to be out of sight of the propaganda the education and news press is selling as "peaceful Muslims". Count how many so called peace loving Muslims you have heard to stand up and say the Koran is wrong on beheadings, making non-believers be killed or pay ransom to Islam for being allowed to live in their presence! If they cannot do that, how can they claim they want to live with Jews, Christians, Gays et al - all in peace????

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May 16, 2015 21:05:59   #
Homestead
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Islam is NOT RELIGION. It is a political ideology of Muhammad started in the 7th century or about 622 AD, in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. He was a military leader. His purpose was for power, wealth, and sexual enslavement of women,
After his death, many of his followers continued Islam, the name of Mohammad's ideology.

They conquered and killed millions of the inhabitants of the Middle East like Christians, Pagans, Jews, Hindus. They took away their lands, and destroyed their antiquities and properties, and church of worship. Their ways of fighting were so brutal. Killing all non-believers for their moon god allah.
Their commandments are killing all the non-believers. Peace will come only when the whole world is converted to Islam.

Fact of the matter is since Islam is not a religion, it must not be given the First Amendment Rights here in the US.
But they are masquerading is as a religion.
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I know it's not a religion, I've been telling people that for years now.

That's not the purpose of this particular post.

We have a bunch of snarky little smart asses that want to justify one act of cruelty with another and maintain that they're equivalent.

To them, it's not a matter of right and wrong, it's a matter of claiming someone else did the same thing, so it doesn't matter.

They've focused on the fact that there is a lot of history in the bible and a lot of that history is violent, they want to ignore the fact that man's inhumanity to man is not limited to the bible and the teaching of the bible are not telling man to go out and ruthlessly slaughter human beings, for all the rest of eternity, in the name of God.



This is not the case for Islam, Islam is dedicated to world domination, by force, as commanded by a false prophet.

In the history of the bible there have been those who used their faith, for their own gains,
IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE.
That's why the bible talks about false prophets and warns against following them.



In Islam, there is no such violation.
It tells you, kill in the name of Islam. If you don't kill others, you are a hypocrite, which makes you an unbeliever, which makes you an infidel and you yourself must be executed for not killing others.

It's not subject to interpretation, it is a direct commandment, Kill the infidel in the name of Allah.

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Aug 17, 2015 09:49:24   #
tenneman
 
I see the liberal willful ignorance of Islam as part of the disease in that the realization of Islam would dampen, if not destroy, their multi-culture agendas.

tenneman

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Aug 17, 2015 18:55:29   #
Radiance3
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Show me one religion that does not advocate violence. So it's your agenda to exterminatv2.2 billion Muslims around the world. Why not try a little diplomacy instead of the Bush agenda just invade Iraq and kill 40,000 Muslims and injure 200,000 on false intel and create a nation of ISIS so what is your solution to exterminate 2.2 billion muslims

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Jihadis coming to U.S.? They're already here
U.S. terror training camps exposed in documentary
Obama's religion of peace!
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With threats on the American homeland from ISIS leaders, the nation's southern border scandalously unguarded, ever-increasing Islamic subversion within the U.S., and growing concerns among citizens over terror attacks – now there's this.

Scattered across the United States, rarely publicized by the "mainstream" news media, are three dozen Islamic terrorist training compounds, according to a powerful film documentary. Under the leadership of a radical Pakistani cleric, Sheikh Mubarak Gilani, his U.S.-based group called "Muslims of the Americas" has thousands of devoted followers who, claims the documentary, are being groomed for "Homegrown Jihad."

In never-before-seen video footage, the documentary exposes these dangerous jihad-training compounds and reveals a secret training tape in which American Muslims are recruited to "join one of the most advanced training courses in Islamic military warfare" ... right here in America!

They are called "Soldiers of Allah" and they are trained in explosives, kidnapping, murder, firing weapons and guerilla warfare, says the filmmakers. And they are told, "Act like you are a friend, then kill him just like from the book."

Declassified FBI documents confirmed the existence of one such Islamic jihadist enclave in Texas, part of the same U.S.-based network of training camps, and identified by the Department of Homeland Security as connected to a terrorist organization. The Texas enclave belongs to Muslims of the Americas, which is linked to the Pakistani-based militant group Jamaat al-Fuqra, according to an investigation by the Clarion Project and ACT! For America Houston.

Jamaat al-Fuqra was founded in New York in 1980 by Gilani, who at one time was in Pakistani custody in connection with the abduction of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Pearl was later beheaded by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, whom the "9/11 Commission Report" identified as "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks."

"Muslims of the Americas" claims it has a network of 22 “villages” around the U.S., with headquarters at an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called Holy Islamberg, as WND has reported. An investigative report at the time found neighbors of Islamberg were deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there and frustrated by an apparent lack of attention from federal authorities.

WND also has reported that Jamaat al-Fuqra has collaborated with major terrorist organizations, including Hezbollah and al-Qaida.

The FBI describes the compound in Texas, called Mahmoudberg, as an “enclave” and “communal living site.” Located in Brazoria County along County Road 3 near Sweeny, Texas, it was discovered by the FBI through a tip from an informant in New York, according to the Clarion Project.


The Texas commune, in a heavily wooded area, is estimated by a local resident who spoke to ACT researchers to encompass about 25 acres. It dates back to the late 1980s, the resident said, which is confirmed by the FBI documents.

The FBI reported in 2007 that one commune resident formerly was a leader at the Muslims of the Americas compound in Badger, Calif., called Baladullah. In March 2001, a Baladullah member had been arrested for transporting guns between New York and South Carolina. Another was charged with murdering a police deputy that caught him breaking and entering a home. The declassified FBI documents show that the enclave is not the only affiliate of the organization that has operated in the state.

A 2003 FBI report states that investigation of MOA "is based on specific and articulate facts giving justification to believe they are engaged in international terrorism."

Last year, Muslims of the Americas filed a lawsuit against the nonprofit Christian Action Network for defamation and libel after CAN’s publication of the book “Twilight in America: The Untold Story of Islamist Terrorist Training Camps Inside America.”

The book accuses Muslims of the Americas of “acting as a front for the radical Islamist group Jamaat al-Fuqra.”

Much of the book is based on the investigation of a former NYPD undercover informant who spent eight years posing as a member of the group.

The authors of the book, Martin Mawyer and Patti Pierucci, told Fox News they welcome the lawsuit because it will expose the Islamic group's activities.

Beltway sniper John Muhammad also has been tied to the group, and there is circumstantial evidence that links it to Oklahoma University bomber Joel Hinrichs.

Joseph Bodansky, the former director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, has affirmed Jamaat al-Fuqra operations in the U.S. have been known to the FBI and CIA for decades.

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Aug 17, 2015 19:34:28   #
payne1000
 
tenneman wrote:
I am retired and engaged as a substitute teacher in a large New England high school. Although I'm called in for all subjects my specialty is American and World history in which I have a Bachelor of Arts degree.

On many occasions I have received lesson plans enforcing only what may be the positive character of Islam. It became obvious that the intent of even discussing Islam was to thwart the Jihad tenets of the ideology in the minds of the students.

Regarding the subject of terrorism the plans included documentaries of Timothy McVeigh and the nutty white genius pipe bomber with the Polish name. Twenty five thousand plus terrorist attacks by Muslims and not one teacher brave enough to teach the truth.

America's liberals have mastered the art of whitewashing the causes they care about. Led by rich white elites who profit by supporting the "underdogs," their movement thrives by painting a picture that does not jibe with reality.

Their latest obsession is the "peaceful" religion of Islam and they are going to great lengths to be certain America's young students see that all of those terrorists, all of those oppressive Islamic regimes and militant organizations really have nothing to do with the religion as a whole. They persist in referencing Islam as a religion as opposed to the political system it actually is.

In one of our classes I had to show a video of a beautiful white American, upper class, Dallas Texas female preparing to do the pilgrimage to Mecca. She declared herself a Muslim and wore a designer head scarf which complemented her fashion motif.

She flew first class to Saudi Arabia and was greeted by male Saudi dignitaries who treated her as if she was the First Lady. She never once was shown with the thousands in the procession to the icon.

Having never seen such an obvious example of propaganda I spoke to the teacher soon afterward. His response was, "the kids get so much of the bad stuff in the news." Now this boob was the product of liberally controlled "higher education." I just walked away, not wishing to be an undesirable as I enjoy working with the kids.

In my defense, after the film was over my exact words to the class of 12 females and 8 males was, "Hopefully you guys know this is absolute bull shit." To my surprise, after hysterical laughing they they assured me they knew better. Right before the bell rang I said, "Praise Allah and pass the ammunition," which garnered more laughs.

tenneman
I am retired and engaged as a substitute teacher i... (show quote)


If there is any truth to the alleged militarism of Islamic people, this may justify their actions: http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm

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Aug 17, 2015 21:17:28   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
If there is any truth to the alleged militarism of Islamic people, this may justify their actions: http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm


Larry... your mentor ....Jeff Rense is an American radio talk-show host and conspiracy theorist. His show, Jeff Rense Program, was formerly broadcast via satellite radio and remains available online.[1][2]

Rense's radio program and website promote fringe views such as 9/11 conspiracy theories,[3] UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, creation of diseases, chemtrails, animal rights, evidence of advanced ancient technology, emergent energy technologies, and alternative medicine.

Rense's writings and website have been deemed anti-semitic by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.... from Wiki

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Aug 18, 2015 08:49:10   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Larry... your mentor ....Jeff Rense is an American radio talk-show host and conspiracy theorist. His show, Jeff Rense Program, was formerly broadcast via satellite radio and remains available online.

Rense's radio program and website promote fringe views such as 9/11 conspiracy theories, UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, creation of diseases, chemtrails, animal rights, evidence of advanced ancient technology, emergent energy technologies, and alternative medicine.

Rense's writings and website have been deemed anti-semitic by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.... from Wiki
Larry... your mentor ....Jeff Rense is an America... (show quote)


The ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center are agents of Israel.
Of course they would assassinate the character of anyone who criticizes Zionism--just as you do continuously on this forum.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/11/01/do-you-equate-anti-zionism-with-anti-semitism/

Readers should take note that the information presented on acts of terrorism by Zionists throughout their history has not been refuted.

Most readers should know by now that "Anti-Semitism" is a trick word used in an attempt to shut down criticism of Israel and Zionism.



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