payne1000 wrote:
There was also a 9/11 Commission Report which would take world class naivete to accept.
As far as Moorer goes there is also a General Wesley Clark I wouldn't trust with the weather outside, and that woman doesn't constitute a wise digestion and dissemination of facts, tho is false in too much rhetoric to run w/it- as you have hook line and sinker.
Bldg 7 is a question just like with aspects Ruby Ridge+Waco, JFK/LBJ, Clinton's+FBI and MAO'bama-[completely] that are there. However not Left or Right conspiracy theories on any of it. Many of us here are very far from naive in either direction nor on a fence but use discretionary wisdom not gullibility. Truth may not surface til past OUR lifetimes.
WWI+WWII are not honestly dealt with nor understood by 90+% of Americans let alone Korea+Vietnam; including those that fought there. Fools rush in where Angels dare not tread ~!
mtman2 wrote:
As far as Moorer goes there is also a General Wesley Clark I wouldn't trust with the weather outside, and that woman doesn't constitute a wise digestion and dissemination of facts, tho is false in too much rhetoric to run w/it- as you have hook line and sinker.
Bldg 7 is a question just like with aspects Ruby Ridge+Waco, JFK/LBJ, Clinton's+FBI and MAO'bama-[completely] that are there. However not Left or Right conspiracy theories on any of it. Many of us here are very far from naive in either direction nor on a fence but use discretionary wisdom not gullibility. Truth may not surface til past OUR lifetimes.
WWI+WWII are not honestly dealt with nor understood by 90+% of Americans let alone Korea+Vietnam; including those that fought there. Fools rush in where Angels dare not tread ~!
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There is no substance to your reply--only obfuscation.
Serious discussion would not suit your agenda, would it?
payne1000 wrote:
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There is no substance to your reply--only obfuscation.
Serious discussion would not suit your agenda, would it?
Those here see that you're not in your right mind ignoring others completely as if the wingnuts you come up with as your gods, you know- besides yourself in your own mind and everybody else is out to lunch.......................NOT ~!
payne1000 wrote:
Good to see some accurate information about Israel/Zionism for a change. You did leave out one Jewish organization in the U.S. which was labeled a Jewish terrorist organization by the Justice department. The Jewish Defense League carried on terrorist bombings in the U.S. for over a decade starting in 1968. The JDL was aided by Mossad and high-level operatives in Israel in carrying out their acts of terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeoconservatismI didn't know about that one!
mtman2 wrote:
Those here see that you're not in your right mind ignoring others completely as if the wingnuts you come up with as your gods, you know- besides yourself in your own mind and everybody else is out to lunch.......................NOT ~!
Trolls use insults rather than reason.
Are you a troll?
astrolite wrote:
I didn't know about that one!
The free American magazine published several copies of pages from NYC news papers in 1934, then one announcing the forming of the ADL as a branch of the Bine Brith. It seems over 120 jews were arrested tried and sentenced to prison for a white slavery ring! The stated agenda of the ADL was "to change the reputation of the new york zionist jews" Sort of like a ad agency, to sell the public that they were wonderful, and never did anything criminal! Of course all of that crap was moot in the 50s after the Rosenburg affair came to light, over 40 jews were involved in that one. But later they successfully covered up the jewish theft of the 5000 lbs of nuclear material that Israel used to make their A Bombs! No one knows (but the Mossad) how many jews were involved in that caper! They still deny having them....but put Mordecai Vanunu in prison for exposing that program....that they "Don't have"? There's a lot more!
astrolite wrote:
The free American magazine published several copies of pages from NYC news papers in 1934, then one announcing the forming of the ADL as a branch of the Bine Brith. It seems over 120 jews were arrested tried and sentenced to prison for a white slavery ring! The stated agenda of the ADL was "to change the reputation of the new york zionist jews" Sort of like a ad agency, to sell the public that they were wonderful, and never did anything criminal! Of course all of that crap was moot in the 50s after the Rosenburg affair came to light, over 40 jews were involved in that one. But later they successfully covered up the jewish theft of the 5000 lbs of nuclear material that Israel used to make their A Bombs! No one knows (but the Mossad) how many jews were involved in that caper! They still deny having them....but put Mordecai Vanunu in prison for exposing that program....that they "Don't have"? There's a lot more!
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Below is a copy of the letter JFK sent to Israel's prime minister Eskol.
This was only a few months before JFK's assassination.
I've told you my family background, that I am a proud Zionist, that I am a US Navy vet, a liberal, and majored in US history at Wagner College, I also taught US history for thirty years as well as modern world history, and government.
You have said less than nothing about yourself, except for some bs about having been in the Marines and of Scotch- Irish background, which I don't believe for a second. I am looking into the Liberty incident, but I will take my time in trying to put everything together. I may or may not post my results because it is difficult to get the entire story. It's complicated. I have a good idea of what happened, but much of what I think can not be proven. It is not so much the what happened as the reason for it.
payne1000 wrote:
You're not looking for the truth if you plan to ask someone from AIPAC about the Liberty attack.
You haven't told anyone who you are.
I answered your question about your claims that I support terrorists. What other questions are you referring to?
You didn't answer my questions about what Admiral Moorer said.
I opposed the JDL and everything they stood for. I also opposed the Black Panthers, the KKK, the American Nazis, the Communist Party, and all other kinds of violent groups and anti semitic racists like yourself! So what? I certainly won't post any of my views about the Liberty affair unless you answer the questions I posed to you!
payne1000 wrote:
Good to see some accurate information about Israel/Zionism for a change. You did leave out one Jewish organization in the U.S. which was labeled a Jewish terrorist organization by the Justice department. The Jewish Defense League carried on terrorist bombings in the U.S. for over a decade starting in 1968. The JDL was aided by Mossad and high-level operatives in Israel in carrying out their acts of terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
payne1000 wrote:
Trolls use insults rather than reason.
Are you a troll?
That's what folks call you ~!
payne1000 wrote:
Below is a copy of the letter JFK sent to Israel's prime minister Eskol.
This was only a few months before JFK's assassination.
Puts a whole different light on Kennedy's assaination!
saltwind 78 wrote:
I've told you my family background, that I am a proud Zionist, that I am a US Navy vet, a liberal, and majored in US history at Wagner College, I also taught US history for thirty years as well as modern world history, and government.
You have said less than nothing about yourself, except for some bs about having been in the Marines and of Scotch- Irish background, which I don't believe for a second. I am looking into the Liberty incident, but I will take my time in trying to put everything together. I may or may not post my results because it is difficult to get the entire story. It's complicated. I have a good idea of what happened, but much of what I think can not be proven. It is not so much the what happened as the reason for it.
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I'v seen published photographs of the sailors spreading an American flag on the upper deck of the Liberty, before the second attack, You might find that? And open your Copy of "Janes" to PHLANX system, the liberty had one, it would have shredded the Israeli plane instantly, but they got word from the Commander in a carrier NOT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! Then back here they were threatened with prison if they told ANYBODY what happened to the ship! MORE COVERUPS
saltwind 78 wrote:
I opposed the JDL and everything they stood for. I also opposed the Black Panthers, the KKK, the American Nazis, the Communist Party, and all other kinds of violent groups and anti semitic racists like yourself! So what? I certainly won't post any of my views about the Liberty affair unless you answer the questions I posed to you!
The Black Panthers, the KKK, the American Nazis, the Communist Party did not use bombs as their main method of terrorism as JDL did.
Jewish terrorists have a long history of using bombs:
http://www.wrmea.org/1992-july/the-lavon-affair-when-israel-firebombed-u.s.-installations.html
saltwind 78 wrote:
I've told you my family background, that I am a proud Zionist, that I am a US Navy vet, a liberal, and majored in US history at Wagner College, I also taught US history for thirty years as well as modern world history, and government.
You have said less than nothing about yourself, except for some bs about having been in the Marines and of Scotch- Irish background, which I don't believe for a second. I am looking into the Liberty incident, but I will take my time in trying to put everything together. I may or may not post my results because it is difficult to get the entire story. It's complicated. I have a good idea of what happened, but much of what I think can not be proven. It is not so much the what happened as the reason for it.
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Is it really that important as to why Israel was willing to commit an act of war against the United States. They did it. If they would do it once, they would do it again--and they did--on 9/11.
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