payne1000

Kissinger and Brzezinski were two of the founding fathers of neoconservatism. Humanity can be thankful that they are short timers now.
Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld although not Jewish, should be on the graphic although they are not Jewish. They were all members of PNAC which called for the need of a "New Pearl Harbor" before one happened on 9/11.
Rabbi Dov Zakheim should also be on the graphic since many think he was the mastermind behind 9/11.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

All fine specimens of ugliness inside and out.

emarine

Joshua Muravchik... He's the neocon you started this post with...... he's the "left wing socialist" Neocon who would rather bomb Iran than put boots on the ground causing more causality's and loss of life ... so much for your labels... but he could be a Zionist so then he would be a Neocon there for he must be a Jew and that makes him evil ... am I getting close yet?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

" am I getting close yet?"
A little twisting for misdirection, but you are not far off.

Here; read it again _
"Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s. Many of its adherents rose to political fame during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administrations of George W. Bush, George H W Bush and Tony Blair, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Prominent neoconservatives in the Bush administration included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and Paul Bremer.

The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left to the camp of American conservatism. Neoconservatives frequently advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism. Many early neoconservative thinkers were Jewish and published articles in Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee. They spoke out against the New Left, and in that way helped define the movement. C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (1899–1973), though in doing so they may draw upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

If Josh (whoever that is) is a left wing socialist, he's not a neocon.

payne1000

The reason I didn't know who you were referring to as "Josh" is because you said he was a left wing socialist. Muravchik is a right wing Zionist neoconservative involved in many right wing think tanks. Muravchik is a member of the neocon group which was responsible for getting us into all the wars in the Middle East. and now he wants a much bigger war with Iran.
"Joshua Muravchik is a leading proponent of interventionist U.S. foreign policies who has played an important role in shaping neoconservative ideology and agendas, including pushing for war with Iran. An erstwhile Socialist Party activist, Muravchik has been affiliated with numerous political pressure groups, right-wing think tanks, and organizations associated with the "Israel lobby" in the United States.

Muravchik has been a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a trustee at Freedom House, a board member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), a signatory on Project for the New American Century (PNAC) letter-writing campaigns, and an adjunct scholar at the Washington Institute for Near East Affairs (WINEP). Since 2009, Muravchik has been a fellow at the School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at John Hopkins University, a Washington, D.C.-based graduate school that has served as home base for numerous figures associated with neoconservatism, including Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Cohen, and Thomas Donnelly."
- See more at: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Muravchik_Joshua#sthash.GwU9GGOr.dpuf

emarine

Seems that we dropped two nuke's on Japan , the theory at the time was it would save many 10's of thousands of Lives... mostly American .... now were we Neocon's or socialists?

from Wiki...Muravchik was one of the group of writers who moved away from the political left in the 1960s and 1970s and came to be called “neoconservatives.” In 1986, a Wall Street Journal editor wrote: “Joshua Muravchik may be the most cogent and careful of the neoconservative writers on foreign policy.” [2] Muravchik wrote in defense of neoconservative position when it became highly controversial during the years of George W. Bush’s presidency.[3]

Muravchik received an undergraduate degree from City College of New York (1970) and a Ph.D in international relations from Georgetown University (1984). He also received an honorary doctorate from the Aurel Vlaicu University of Romania (2004).[4] In 1998 he received a citation from the Polish parliament for his activities on behalf of Solidarity.

Muravchik was National Chairman of the Young People's Socialist League (YPSL) from 1968 to 1973, and executive director of the Coalition for a Democratic Majority from 1977 to 1979. He was also an aide to the late Congressman James G. O'Hara (D-Mich.) in 1975 and to the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) in 1977 and as a campaign aide to the late Senator Henry M. Jackson in his pursuit of the 1976 Democratic presidential nomination.[5]

Muravchik serves on the board of trustees and the executive committee of Freedom House.[6] He was a member of the State Department’s Advisory Committee on Democracy Promotion from 2002 to 2009,[7] and a member of the Commission on Broadcasting to the People's Republic of China in 1992. He served on the Maryland State Advisory Committee of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights from 1985 to 1997. He is a member of the editorial boards of World Affairs, Journal of Democracy, and The Journal of International Security Affairs, as well as being an Advisory Editor at Fathom.

Muravchik argued in the Washington Post that the United States should attack Iran, stating: "Does this mean that our only option is war? Yes, although an air campaign targeting Iran’s nuclear infrastructure would entail less need for boots on the ground than the war Obama is waging against the Islamic State, which poses far smaller a threat than Iran does." [8]

payne1000

Why do you use the word "we"? The decision to commit mass murder of 100s of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians was not a decision of the American people. It was a decision made by the military industrial complex with the complicity of a small-minded president who was installed for that purpose.

payne1000

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All that and it doesn't mention that Muravchick signed the PNAC letter which called for the need of a "New Pearl Harbor" before one happened on 9/11. Being involved in all those neoconservative think tanks, Joshua might well have been in on the planning of 9/11.

emarine

Do the American people ever decide anything in reality? Do the Jew's own the Industrial Military Complex?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

This sums it up: Joshua Muravchik is a CFRand TC member. A Bilderberger front man.
A Bilderberg NWO pushing scum bag.
A Zionist that has worked both sides of the fence. Left and right.
So what is the plan, the agenda of the Bilderbergrs?
Who has been doing the influencing to get our politicians elected? BIG Money and the favorable MSM. Who owns the MSM? I hope more Americans start figuring this out.
Moslems did not get Obamma elected.
Who's purpose is Obama fulfilling?

This country has been getting screwed for many decades by both parties via Bilderberger control.CFR vetting of both parties.
Who funds "radical" Islam; is the question to get answered.
Who will pay attention to covert US foreign policy and share?
The old Marxist divide and conquer ploy is being used. Americans used to live together in relative peace.
The Network Media claims that Muslims and their sharia law (which is terrible) is a BIG threat; BUT
MSM ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians.
It ignores the internationalist, Council on Foreign Relation’s vetting in both political parties.
Who has any idea of who owns the MSM? (who's propaganda are we being fed daily?)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? (CFR vetted politicians in both parties for decades)
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? (The private Federal Reserve)
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA’s ($18 trillion debt), via The FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the rest.
How is it that MSM ignores that Zionists have been behind the Muslim and illegal emigrations for decades? (diversity is good has been the internationalist’s propaganda)
Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ /Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, Charles Krauthammer, and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
All Shiites are our enemies according to our Talking Heads on network TV, but according to the MSM, it was Saudi Sunnis attacking on 911. Not Shiites
I can only hope some here take the time to read, research and think.

Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions”

IMHO - These will be really bad solutions for those that care about liberty, freedom, our standard of living, and our Constitution.
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payne1000

You still haven't learned the difference between Jews and Zionists, have you?
Zionists are in partnership with the military/industrial complex. Israel is one of the MIC's best clients. Over $3 billion from our treasury is given Israel each year and most of it's earmarked as for weapons manufactured in the U.S. Israel has always been a notorious weapons dealer. Many of the U.S. made weapons are sold by Israel to other nations or given to terrorist networks which Israel supports.

Here's a good read for your continuing education:
http://www.amazon.com/Profits-War-Inside-U-S-Israeli-Network/dp/1879823012

emarine

I'm sure your book sold through Amazon is a interesting read... It's faster to just look at your dividends from Northrop Grumman or Raytheon over the years... The billions in tax dollars that go out then come back to military contractors is ludicrous and it seems to me that Bush and Obama have now broke the bank.... Weather it was to save the petro dollar, the Jew's or both is pretty much irrelevant at this point ... 18 trillion is a tuff nut to crack... My argument with you is you seem to think that Zionism is a Neocon, plutocratic monopoly, I don't.... I think the Palestinians would exterminate the Jew's if they could both now and then... I always choose the underdog

payne1000

You choose the underdog?
Does this look like an underdog?

1000-lb bombs being dropped by Zionists on Gaza


Israeli Air Force jets. Palestinians have no jets of any kind.


The work of those you label underdogs . . .


White represents the amount of land your underdogs have stolen from the palestinians.

emarine

7 million Jew's VS 300 Million angry and confused Arabs surrounding 3 sides,,, with the potential for one billion plus in reserve

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

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That's hitting the nail on the head.
With friends like US; who's the underdog?