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Oct 24, 2013 10:37:17   #
VladimirPee
 
Sorry but you did not dispute one item I posted. Nice try. Obama sold this on a pack of LIES. 300,000 in Florida lost their insurance just this week. The average family will never see any $2500 in savings.


kvdon wrote:
Must say Dennis you continue to underwhelm with your volume but lack of any quality to your posts, all of your professed lies are mostly lies or foolish statements themselves, if something moves to universal coverage it's not a lie because it doesn't fully get there, if your so worried about that let's go to single payer universal coverage eh. As usual the right wing faux outrage about incompleteness of things you are inherently and foolishly outraged about in principle in the first place, it's quite sad really from a the point of view of intelligent discourse.
Must say Dennis you continue to underwhelm with yo... (show quote)

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Oct 24, 2013 10:38:53   #
kvdon
 
DennisDee wrote:
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.


I think you picked the perfect quote...seems he was talking directly about you!

the most posts with the least substance and also sprinkled with bigotry and invective! Yes, the show fits very well!

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Oct 24, 2013 10:40:15   #
VladimirPee
 
Listen son. Take your silly race cards and shove em where the sun doesn't shine

kvdon wrote:
I think you picked the perfect quote...seems he was talking directly about you!

the most posts with the least substance and also sprinkled with bigotry and invective! Yes, the show fits very well!

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Oct 24, 2013 10:42:47   #
VladimirPee
 
Yes in fact the quote is excellent. Did you know that 31% polled yesterday said the Obamacare roll out is going well? I wonder who those folks are? Do they actually believe it? Is it willful ignorance?


kvdon wrote:
I think you picked the perfect quote...seems he was talking directly about you!

the most posts with the least substance and also sprinkled with bigotry and invective! Yes, the show fits very well!

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Oct 24, 2013 11:56:38   #
dhelix33
 
Okay, we all know in here that DennisDee is an ignorant racist, cannot be denied. For him, it is not enough proof that people show up at “tea party” rallies with racist signs depicting President Obama as a witch doctor or a jungle savage, congress as slave owners and taxpayers as slaves. Or the facts that black members of congress had racial epithets hurled at them and were spit on at a “tea party” rally.

If that is not enough proof for him, or for other “tea party” pundits in this forum, there are real scientific studies. A survey by the University of Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity, Race & Sexuality found that members of the “tea party” are 25% more likely of being racially resentful that those who are not “tea party” supporters. In another poll conducted by the New York Times/CBS News survey found that white “tea party” supporters were more likely to believe that "the Obama administration favors blacks over whites" and that "too much has been made of the problems facing black people."

So with this information, why does this imbecilic teabagger DennisDee debate the issue? The right wing media, i.e. Fox News, and the “tea party” themselves continue to laugh at the idea that there party is racist. Think Progress, Media Matters, and New Left Media created a site TeaPartyTracker.org to monitor racism at Tea Party events. This has got the lunatic fringe Teapublicans all upset. They claim that people who are not teabaggers show up at their rallies with racist signs and they don’t have any control over that (what a blatant lie). If that is so, why weren't the ‘outside agitators’ at these rallies called out and their racism repudiated? Because teabaggers are liars!

The outspoken “tea party” is strangely silent when it could have a chance to change some members’ minds. After many examples of racism, the Tea Party Federation did make a statement a few years back (2010) about racism, but racism continues to show up in this 'movement'. It took McCain too long, but he eventually spoke up at one his rallies when he was running against Obama and strongly stated that he will not tolerate racism. The teabaggers could do the same thing. Not just a single weak statement - but the speakers at rallies need to call out these 'invading' racists in the crowd when they see it. They choose not to, therefore their silence about racism shouts their acceptance of the vile ignorant practice.

Racism is not just about the overt signs or use of the “N” word. There is another form of racism in the “tea party”. The majority of ‘tea party” members hate President Obama. Why? Because he may be Muslim? He may not have been born in the United States? I ask you, would these rumors plague a white guy? [I say emphatically NO! There are numerous reports about teabaggers supporting Ted Cruz, who was actually not born in the United States - as opposed to the blatant racist lie by Teapublicans that President Obama was born in Kenya ] The fact remains that the birthers out there – are proven racists.

Before the whole Islamophobia took it out of the spotlight, race relations were hitting a new low in the United States. People thought electing a black president would improve our race relations but instead it just made some white people act stupider. Fox News’ stories continue to have made up scary black people (I recall ACORN, Shirley Sherrod and the New Black Panthers).

The premise by these racists is - now that there is a president who is not white, watch out whiteys, black people are going to take over the country. It is sad and ridiculous. The “tea party” and other bat-sh*t crazy conservative groups have always operated on fear tactics. However, they are refining their bigotry today in a small box - they now specifically racially attack Muslims, Black Americans, and Mexican Americans.
We continue to see them alienating themselves form real Americans, making their ‘movement’ impotent.

Teabaggers are desperately afraid of people of color as well as losing power when they are a 'minority in America, they desperately try to make it seem like everyone else is really bad and scary - when we know these lunatics are the real scary ones. Of course teabaggers like DennisDee are racists. But, he and his ilk refuse to realize it. They deny that their fear of President Obama is based on the color of his skin.

You can make signs against Obama’s policies if you want. But, when teabaggers create signs depicting President Obama as a monkey, they are just proving everyone else right.

kvdon wrote:
I think you picked the perfect quote...seems he was talking directly about you!

the most posts with the least substance and also sprinkled with bigotry and invective! Yes, the show fits very well!

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Oct 24, 2013 12:01:29   #
VladimirPee
 
Wasn't your nickname for Bush the Chimp? I can find HUNDREDS of Bush Chimp comparisons from his time in office. So get over yourself and stop using the race card. It only makes you look foolish and weak




dhelix33 wrote:
Okay, we all know in here that DennisDee is an ignorant racist, cannot be denied. For him, it is not enough proof that people show up at “tea party” rallies with racist signs depicting President Obama as a witch doctor or a jungle savage, congress as slave owners and taxpayers as slaves. Or the facts that black members of congress had racial epithets hurled at them and were spit on at a “tea party” rally.

If that is not enough proof for him, or for other “tea party” pundits in this forum, there are real scientific studies. A survey by the University of Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity, Race & Sexuality found that members of the “tea party” are 25% more likely of being racially resentful that those who are not “tea party” supporters. In another poll conducted by the New York Times/CBS News survey found that white “tea party” supporters were more likely to believe that "the Obama administration favors blacks over whites" and that "too much has been made of the problems facing black people."

So with this information, why does this imbecilic teabagger DennisDee debate the issue? The right wing media, i.e. Fox News, and the “tea party” themselves continue to laugh at the idea that there party is racist. Think Progress, Media Matters, and New Left Media created a site TeaPartyTracker.org to monitor racism at Tea Party events. This has got the lunatic fringe Teapublicans all upset. They claim that people who are not teabaggers show up at their rallies with racist signs and they don’t have any control over that (what a blatant lie). If that is so, why were the ‘outside agitators’ at these rallies called out and their racism repudiated? Because they are liars!

The outspoken “tea party” is strangely silent when it could have a chance to change some members’ minds. After many examples of racism, the Tea Party Federation did make a statement a few years back (2010) about racism, but racism continues to show up in this 'movement'. It took McCain too long, but he eventually spoke up at one his rallies when he was running against Obama and strongly stated that he will not tolerate racism. The teabaggers could do the same thing. Not just a statement - but the speakers at the rally need to call out the racists in the crowd when they see it. They chose not to, therefore their silence about racism shouts their acceptance of the vile ignorance.

Racism is not just about the overt signs or use of the “N” word. There is another form of racism in the “tea party”. The majority of ‘tea party” members hate President Obama. Why? Because he may be Muslim? He may not have been born in the United States? I ask you, would these rumors plague a white guy? [I say emphatically NO! There are numerous reports about teabaggers supporting Ted Cruz, who was actually not born in the United States - as opposed to the blatant racist lie by Teapublicans that President Obama was born in Kenya ] The fact remains that the birthers out there – are proven racists.

Before the whole Islamophobia took it out of the spotlight, race relations were hitting a new low in the United States. People thought electing a black president would improve our race relations but instead it just made some white people act stupider. Fox News’ stories continue to have made up scary black people (I recall ACORN, Shirley Sherrod and the New Black Panthers).

The premise by these racists is - now that there is a president who is not white, watch out whiteys, black people are going to take over the country. It is sad and ridiculous. The “tea party” and other bat-sh*t crazy conservative groups have always operated on fear tactics. However, they are refining their bigotry today in a small box - they now specifically racially attack Muslims, Black Americans, and Mexican Americans.
We continue to see them alienating themselves form real Americans, making their ‘movement’ impotent.

Teabaggers are desperately afraid of people of color as well as losing power when they are a 'minority in America, they desperately try to make it seem like everyone else is really bad and scary - when we know these lunatics are the real scary ones. Of course teabaggers like DennisDee are racists. But, he and his ilk refuse to realize it. They deny that their fear of President Obama is based on the color of his skin.

You can make signs against Obama’s policies if you want. But, when teabaggers create signs depicting President Obama as a monkey, they are just proving everyone else right.
Okay, we all know in here that DennisDee is an ign... (show quote)



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Oct 24, 2013 12:12:45   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
60% of the public say's that it is bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politics/cnn-poll-gop-boehner-shutdown/index.html

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Oct 24, 2013 12:16:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kvdon wrote:
Must say Dennis you continue to underwhelm with your volume but lack of any quality to your posts, all of your professed lies are mostly lies or foolish statements themselves, if something moves to universal coverage it's not a lie because it doesn't fully get there, if your so worried about that let's go to single payer universal coverage eh. As usual the right wing faux outrage about incompleteness of things you are inherently and foolishly outraged about in principle in the first place, it's quite sad really from a the point of view of intelligent discourse.
Must say Dennis you continue to underwhelm with yo... (show quote)
And you think this line of national socialist rubbish is supposed to be "intelligent discourse"?

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Oct 24, 2013 12:21:09   #
VladimirPee
 
Let me be exactly clear about what health care reform means to you,” Obama said at one rally in July 2009. “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like your doctors, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.”


MILLIONS are Losing their Healthcare plans


Blade_Runner wrote:
And you think this line of national socialist rubbish is supposed to be "intelligent discourse"?

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Oct 24, 2013 12:27:42   #
Artemis
 
DennisDee wrote:
Wasn't your nickname for Bush the Chimp? I can find HUNDREDS of Bush Chimp comparisons from his time in office. So get over yourself and stop using the race card. It only makes you look foolish and weak


Thanks I've never seen this very funny:thumbup: :lol:

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Oct 24, 2013 12:30:14   #
VladimirPee
 
I agree it is funny. But I like the Alfred E Newman comparison better.




maelstrom wrote:
Thanks I've never seen this very funny:thumbup: :lol:



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Oct 24, 2013 12:46:00   #
Artemis
 
DennisDee wrote:
Yes in fact the quote is excellent. Did you know that 31% polled yesterday said the Obamacare roll out is going well? I wonder who those folks are? Do they actually believe it? Is it willful ignorance?


Yes, speak to me Dennis, my spouse has cancer and during treatment we received the letter stating the cap has been met if the ACA does not go through,another words your done. By the grace of God it went through and we were able to continue treatment. I must add that during this the insurance did rise to the point where I had to take myself off the insurance, unfortunately during this laps I was diagnosed with diabetes, I can manage but I couldn't find a company to take me due to the now pre-diagnosed condition.
I fell through the cracks as many others until now due to ACA,now I can find insurance. Instead of being against this,just give it a chance. People having to buy insurance as in car insurance will cut the cost of Medicare/Medicaid, which saves our tax dollars. Because of competition it will also allow eventual lower rates. If we just give this a chance and than make adjustments as we all go along. Time will tell all.

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Oct 24, 2013 12:49:28   #
VladimirPee
 
maelstrom

I also have a family to feed. Due to ACA my premiums went up 15% Deductible doubled to $6000 and the out of pocket increased to $12,000. Adding expensive options and 30 Million uninsured is not magic and not free. Someone has to pay more. This was sold on a stack of lies.

maelstrom wrote:
Yes, speak to me Dennis, my spouse has cancer and during treatment we received the letter stating the cap has been met if the ACA does not go through,another words your done. By the grace of God it went through and we were able to continue treatment. I must add that during this the insurance did rise to the point where I had to take myself off the insurance, unfortunately during this laps I was diagnosed with diabetes, I can manage but I couldn't find a company to take me due to the now pre-diagnosed condition.
I fell through the cracks as many others until now due to ACA,now I can find insurance. Instead of being against this,just give it a chance. People having to buy insurance as in car insurance will cut the cost of Medicare/Medicaid, which saves our tax dollars. Because of competition it will also allow eventual lower rates. If we just give this a chance and than make adjustments as we all go along. Time will tell all.
Yes, speak to me Dennis, my spouse has cancer and ... (show quote)

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Oct 24, 2013 13:23:33   #
dhelix33
 
The ACA is not the problem - your incompetency as a human being is at fault. People like you blame other people for their own bad decisions.

DennisDee wrote:
maelstrom

I also have a family to feed. Due to ACA my premiums went up 15% Deductible doubled to $6000 and the out of pocket increased to $12,000. Adding expensive options and 30 Million uninsured is not magic and not free. Someone has to pay more. This was sold on a stack of lies.

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Oct 24, 2013 13:32:06   #
VladimirPee
 
Another stupid uneducated comment from dhelix.

dhelix33 wrote:
The ACA is not the problem - your incompetency as a human being is at fault. People like you blame other people for their own bad decisions.

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