jasfourth401

I'll take these one at a time. Yes, the stimulus should have been better targeted. The majority of it went to tax cuts for people/companies, healthcare (medicaid, unemployment healthcare subsidies) and education (teacher salaries, pell grants). That alone was 525 billion of the total. Next comes Obamacare. I have yet to see any specific, verifiable study showing this will shed jobs. I'd be interested in seeing something. And last comes my biggest pet peeve...the whole notion that fed regulation is hampering job growth. It's a red herring. The four biggest arguments trotted around are the EPA emission standards for coal, the Keystone Pipeline, EPA regs for old boilers and EPA regs for cement. I won't get into detail here because it's a long response. But suffice it to say that none hold water...especially the Keystone Pipeline and cement (it's actually concrete...not cement).

VladimirPee

How do they not hold water? One could make the case that the EPA regulations on emissions is what allowed Toyota to take hold of our auto industry in the 70s. As far as your argument they don't hold water? There are hundreds of examples where EPA regulations have cost jobs. Dozens of studies.

Energy Costs have a direct affect on job creation as well. Government policy can and does affect job creation either positively or negatively. This is indisputable.

kvdon

fareed Zacharia and CNN are only left wing sources to right wing crazies like you Dennis!

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

CBO: Obama Job Creation Ideas Much More Bang for the Buck!

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDoX6v6mdSAU0AVxeJzbkF?p=obama%20job%20creation%20chart%202013&fr=yfp-t-900-s&ei=utf-8&n=30&x=wrt&fr2=sg-gac&sado=1

jasfourth401

They don't hold water because they are not the primary reason. The coal industry is dieing because natural gas offers utilities a cheaper, cleaner option. That's why they are running away from the mines. The car industry was forced to adopt tough CAFE standards resulting in billions of gallons of fuel yanked out of tanks...and put directly into consumers pockets. It also made the industry competitive since the overseas folks were eating our lunch with cheaper, more fuel efficient models that people flocked to. The Honda Civic is a classic example. The cement argument is bogus as well. The issue is scrubbers for the kilns burning limestone and clay. Cement aggregate is a local business. It is inefficient to transport this bulk over long distances. It has to be made locally (redi-mix). The very idea that somehow you can transport bulk cement from China that will eventually wind up in a Vermont pour is laughable from an economic model. Keystone is the worst one of all. People seem to think this will create scads of American jobs. It won't. The project proposes transporting Canadian and Chinese owned tar sands, in a Canadian owned pipeline, to refiners in the Gulf. They refine it and load it onto Chinese supertankers for transport overseas. All the project does is create a secure supply of oil for the Chinese while we take the risk of poisoning one of the largest fresh water aquifers around. It also tramples personal property owner rights via eminent domain. No thanks. What is also lost in this debate is the public cost of healthcare for crappy air. Asthma and other respiratory diseases are too high and a case can be made that the plant emissions are partly to blame. I buy that argument. I also think these industries have an obligation to share in these costs...or reduce emissions. In my opinion, the EPA does far more good than bad, and actually will save us money in the long run due to lower healthcare costs. But everyone is entitled to their opinion one way or the other.

VladimirPee

I used Fareed specifically so you loons wouldn't reject it. I can find the same information elsewhere as well

Homestead

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money 4 - Mike Maloney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0#t=29

American Economic Collapse, martial law and the coming fall of America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUJ-r4b0n9A

More Academic Evidence that Bigger Government Means Less Prosperity http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/danieljmitchell/2013/10/12/more-academic-evidence-that-bigger-government-means-less-prosperity-n1721976/page/full

The Rahn Curve and the Growth-Maximizing Level of Government http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj6lRFXC5rA#t=316

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Right Wing Ideologies are Destroying the GOP

http://www.alternet.org/three-extreme-right-wing-ideologies-have-taken-over-republican-party-and-could-destroy-it-forever

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

It's about time.

Homestead

Are you posting this for ridicule or do you really believe this crap.

"In the Eighteenth Century, the western world shifted from mercantilism to capitalism."

How the hell do think you can have, "mercantilism, without capitalism.

Capitalism is the, means of production, that produces goods and services.
You know, the land, buildings, resources, labour........Physical assets...CAPITAL.

Capitalism is what fueled the industrial revolution and it started in England one hundred years before it ever came to America.

And the principles of capitalism, were demonstrated by Adam Smith, a Historian, in 1776, and the principles go back to the Roman Empire and further.

There is no possible way to have something called, mercantilism, without capitalism. It is efficiency of Capitalism and using it's division of labour that would create the possibility of mercantilism.

For Gods sake man, get a clue!

VladimirPee

He doesn't believe it. It has to force himself to believe it due to the Gay mindset

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

Corporate Greed in the name of Capitalism is Destroying America!

The flavors of corporate greed are many, from flat salaries, outsourced jobs, and reduced benefits. It all boils down to the same outcome, taking money out of the pockets of the middle class Americans, and lining the pockets of corporate officers!

http://voices.yahoo.com/corporate-greed-name-capitalism-destroying-10293907.html

VladimirPee

Will U.S. Public Debt Reach $22 Trillion by Feb. 2014?

http://www.etfguide.com/commentary/1138/Will-U.S.-Public-Debt-Reach-$22-Trillion-by-Feb.-2014/

Homestead

Dude, do you not have a brain in your head?

In the first link it said, "In the Eighteenth Century, the western world shifted from mercantilism to capitalism."

This is like saying that, in the Eighteenth Century, the western world shifted from sunlight to daylight.

You get sunlight from daylight, the same way you get merchandise from capitalism.

Now you have a link claiming that, "capitalism," is destroying wealth?

What's destroying this country is socialism, you moron.

There was no such thing as the middle class until capitalism.

Before that, you had peons and peasants and the ruling class.

Capitalism is what created the business class, separate from the ruling class and that is where the middle class came from, you stupid idiot!

Not only do you not know your history, you don't even understand what's happening today!

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

The Big Threat to the Economy is Private Debt and Interest Owed on It, Not Government Debt!

http://www.alternet.org/economy/big-threat-economy-private-debt-and-interest-owed-it-not-government-debt