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Jul 2, 2015 08:56:57   #
payne1000
 
Spankem wrote:
Hey sweetlips you dropped a zero, in the article that payne presented as his evidence, there was a claim that in 1938 there were 6,000,000 Jews in Germany, starving.

Just saying.


Would you please point out to readers where in the article I posted does it say there were 6 million Jews in Germany?

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Jul 2, 2015 09:03:06   #
GrampaG
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why did so many survive? If Germany really wanted to exterminate all the Jews, they could have lined them up and machine-gunned them all in one day.


They actually tried that, and found that method to be not only too slow, but too costly. Bullets were not cheap and were needed at the fronts. So, alternative means were researched and developed, not the least being piping engine exhaust into the gas chambers. This was found to be inefficient, since not everyone died outright. The Germans were nothing if not excellent scientists and researchers, and they soon came up with a gas that was easy to deploy, killed quickly and thoroughly. Then came the little problem of disposal. Burial pits grew too large, and bodies stacked up because there wasn't time to bury them all immediately. Final solution: Straight from the gas chamber to the ovens. Find some time to look into this with your OWN gray matter active; look at archived pictures of millions of gold teeth, shoes, and other artifacts removed from the condemned; look at the millions of pictures of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and other "undesirables" who were murdered by the Nazi's; get your hands on some of the records kept by the Nazi's themselves detailing the efficiency and finality of their "final solution." Denying that the holocaust happened is like trying to deny dinosaurs existed, in spite of the immense fossil record that has been uncovered in the last century and a half or so.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:04:24   #
payne1000
 
Spankem wrote:
Your fukin numbness and hate is mind boggling, what credible evidence have you presented so far.?
Only conjecture can be presented for something that doesn't or didn't exist.
We present as rebuttal to your post, thousands upon thousands of eye witnesses. You think they all collaborated and lied ?


I haven't heard from thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses. That would indicate that thousands upon thousands survived the alleged Holocaust, now wouldn't it?

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Jul 2, 2015 09:06:55   #
payne1000
 
GrampaG wrote:
They actually tried that, and found that method to be not only too slow, but too costly. Bullets were not cheap and were needed at the fronts. So, alternative means were researched and developed, not the least being piping engine exhaust into the gas chambers. This was found to be inefficient, since not everyone died outright. The Germans were nothing if not excellent scientists and researchers, and they soon came up with a gas that was easy to deploy, killed quickly and thoroughly. Then came the little problem of disposal. Burial pits grew too large, and bodies stacked up because there wasn't time to bury them all immediately. Final solution: Straight from the gas chamber to the ovens. Find some time to look into this with your OWN gray matter active; look at archived pictures of millions of gold teeth, shoes, and other artifacts removed from the condemned; look at the millions of pictures of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and other "undesirables" who were murdered by the Nazi's; get your hands on some of the records kept by the Nazi's themselves detailing the efficiency and finality of their "final solution." Denying that the holocaust happened is like trying to deny dinosaurs existed, in spite of the immense fossil record that has been uncovered in the last century and a half or so.
They actually tried that, and found that method to... (show quote)


Crematorium experts say it takes about 7 hours to cremate a body. How much fuel would that take? How much time would it take to cremate 6 million?

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Jul 2, 2015 09:08:02   #
GrampaG
 
payne1000 wrote:
Would you please point out to readers where in the article I posted does it say there were 6 million Jews in Germany?


Actually, the estimate of 6 million Jews was not a reference to all the Jews in Germany. The Nazi's trucked in or killed in place Jews in Poland, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, France, and several other European countries, for a total of approx. 6 million people. I also think that this number did not differentiate between Jews, Gypsies and other "undesirables" or "non-Aryans" killed by the Nazi's.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:08:14   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
payne1000 wrote:
Herding millions of Jews into gas chambers and using a poisonous gas which must be removed from the chambers after each deposit would take a lot of personnel and would require a lot of time. Where did all these personnel come from?


The Germans were industrious, smart and efficient. Don't think anyone denies that.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:13:03   #
GrampaG
 
payne1000 wrote:
Crematorium experts say it takes about 7 hours to cremate a body. How much fuel would that take? How much time would it take to cremate 6 million?


Your disturbingly warped logic again takes you off course. They didn't cremate 6 million people. Millions were killed by various means: hanging, a shot to the back of the skull, burning alive, and probably other means as well. It was only when Hitler's generals in charge of the "final solution" realized that they needed a quicker and more "final" final solution that the ovens were designed and quickly built (you can even visit the most notorious extermination camp in Poland, if you ever want to find out the truth for yourself). The ovens were built with typical german efficiency and effectiveness, and burned hotter because they were air fed by strong blower motors. The ovens operated much like an assembly line, with fresh bodies going in one end, and ashes out the other. It was much, much quicker than you'd realize, but they also had many ovens operating simultaneously, around the clock.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:13:29   #
payne1000
 
Spankem wrote:
The Germans were industrious, smart and efficient. Don't think anyone denies that.


In other words, you don't have an answer to my question.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:17:09   #
payne1000
 
GrampaG wrote:
Your disturbingly warped logic again takes you off course. They didn't cremate 6 million people. Millions were killed by various means: hanging, a shot to the back of the skull, burning alive, and probably other means as well. It was only when Hitler's generals in charge of the "final solution" realized that they needed a quicker and more "final" final solution that the ovens were designed and quickly built (you can even visit the most notorious extermination camp in Poland, if you ever want to find out the truth for yourself). The ovens were built with typical german efficiency and effectiveness, and burned hotter because they were air fed by strong blower motors. The ovens operated much like an assembly line, with fresh bodies going in one end, and ashes out the other. It was much, much quicker than you'd realize, but they also had many ovens operating simultaneously, around the clock.
Your disturbingly warped logic again takes you off... (show quote)


Here's the opinion of a young Jew who went to the prison camps in search of the truth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjNs-Ght8s#t=322

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Jul 2, 2015 09:18:20   #
sissymary
 
Go to you tube and put in holocaust hoax. There are videos that jews them selves produced that show there were no gas chambers! Fact the soviets were the first to get to most of the camps. Virtually all commissars were jews. 80-85% of the Bolsheviks were jews. So who gets to write history. The sign in front of Auschwitz has been changed over the years from 6 million down now to 1.5? There is no cyanide inside of the so called gas chamber, (proved by scientist), but there is on the walls of the little building where they used the zyclon b to kill lice and such. The chimney next to the gas chamber was built after the war. It is just standing on the ground! It connects to nothing! Aerial photos do not show the chimney before the end of the war, the photos also show no hatches/lids to open on top of the so called gas chamber either where the zyclon pellets were to be dropped through? They were put there after the war. As for the cremation chambers. It would have takes something like 200 years to cremate that many bodies? Look it up, the jews were trying to say 6 million were killed in WW1. Well know one bought it at that time, so they dropped the subject. If they wanted to kill them, why would they build any buildings at all? Just put them in a secure area, don't give any waters for about 6-7 days and they are all dead. It makes no sense at all. Most of the people died in the end from starvation and typhus. You just condemn everyone with out looking into the subject first. I will bet none of you watched the videos? Right! I believed the 6 million lie until about 2-3 years ago until I looked into the subject. Now I can say with out a doubt that it is all a hoax. There are no exhaust ports or way to get the cyanide out of the gas chamber? There is only one door to the building, it is a plain ordinary wooden door? How could they get the gas out to go in and remove the bodies with out dieing? Would you use a non sealed plain old wooden door in a cyanide filled gas chamber? Anyone passing by the door would die! Come on people get real! You can see where they removed the walls. The building was an office building, nothing more. Cyanide stains the walls blue! There is zero cyanide in the so called gas chamber! I chemical scientist scraped the walls and analyzed the results! NO CYANIDE! Zero zip nada. Case closed.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:19:41   #
GrampaG
 
payne1000 wrote:
Herding millions of Jews into gas chambers and using a poisonous gas which must be removed from the chambers after each deposit would take a lot of personnel and would require a lot of time. Where did all these personnel come from?

Spankem wrote:
The Germans were industrious, smart and efficient. Don't think anyone denies that.


As with everything the Nazi's did to quickly and efficiently murder so many people, their gas chambers were designed so that -- at least in the early days -- folks were told they were showers...the chambers were actually outfitted with shower heads to prolong the deception! Once the chamber will filled to capacity, gas was piped in and the chamber left undisturbed for a preset period of time. The Nazi's knew how long this was because they used prisoners as "canaries" to test the air quality before entering themselves to remove the bodies and start the process over. Additionally, many of the personnel doing the labor of removing bodies, moving them to the burial pits or ovens, or whatever other labor was involved were actually prisoners themselves. The Nazi's hand picked their slaves carefully; these folks somehow believed that if they cooperated with the Nazi's and helped them in their murderous activities that they (the helpful prisoners) would be spared. That rarely proved to be the case. As for Nazi personnel, there was an entire brigade of Nazi soldiers who participated, most being guards.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:20:23   #
Ox
 
I'm no Jew, and I am old enough to have lived thru WWII. The atrocities committed by the Japanese in China and the Germans in their concentration camps were widely reported at the time. The OP is either an ignoramus or simply parroting the Islamic line. No one can write such drivel unless totally ignorant (stupid) or pushing an agenda.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:24:16   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
payne1000 wrote:
Would you please point out to readers where in the article I posted does it say there were 6 million Jews in Germany?


In the article you presented there was a video in which the commentator was presenting evidence from a newspaper article, claiming that 6,000,000 Jews were starving, seems like you didn't review your own post presented as evidence.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:26:35   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
payne1000 wrote:
The alleged "Holocaust" of "6 million Jews" at the hands of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany during WWII is the biggest lie ever foisted upon humanity. The very idea that the Germans organized and executed a complex conspiracy involving "homicidal gas chambers" and other barbaric, sadistic forms of mass murder designed to exterminate European Jewry during WWII is laughable on its face when you stop and objectively think about it.

National Socialist Germany and her allies were fighting a multi-front war against some of the most powerful nations in the world at the time, including the United States, the British Empire, and the Soviet Union. The idea that they would divert their precious and extremely scarce resources and manpower towards implementing a systematic campaign of mass murder specifically designed to annihilate European Jewry is absurd.

There was no German conspiracy to systematically genocide and destroy European Jewry during WWII. There were no "homicidal gas chambers" utilized to murder Jews and other "undesirables". The system of concentration camps throughout much of Europe developed and administered by the Germans and their allies during WWII was simply a network of labor, transit, industrial and detention facilities - not "death camps". Jews, political prisoners and Communist subversives (many of whom were in fact Jewish), homosexuals and many others were detained and either put to work or imprisoned in German-administered concentration camps and industrial facilities throughout Europe.

These forced laborers and prisoners were well-cared for, at least until the end of the war when Germany's supply lines broke down and chaos ensued as a result of the Soviet and Anglo-American invasion of German territory. They were well-fed, well-provided for, and given medical treatment and entertainment. They were allowed to attend concerts, organize plays, make music and play sports. If the Germans were hell bent on murdering these people, why would they provide medical care for them and allow them to entertain themselves?

The entire WWII narrative, especially the fake "Holocaust" story, is basically the exact opposite from what we've been told and taught.


Read more . . .
http://www.therealistreport.com/2014/03/how-holocaust-was-faked.html
i The alleged "Holocaust" of "6 mi... (show quote)


You are a LIAR and must be killed.

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Jul 2, 2015 09:30:19   #
Spankem Loc: NJ
 
payne1000 wrote:
I haven't heard from thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses. That would indicate that thousands upon thousands survived the alleged Holocaust, now wouldn't it?


Again you show your fukin numbness and lack of ability to even think a little bit. You have contradicted yourself so much on this topic so far and you don't even realize it.

Your Must be if not Muslim at least a Muslim sympathizer, and most certainly lower than a moron.

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