eagleye13 Loc: Fl

No sense in letting the tail wag the dog any longer.
The cabalic snakes loose in the end.
It is written.

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

Bad Bob, WOW, this is a "Howard Stern" not funny guy.
Alex Jones (I think that's his last name) has no credibility. He's just one loud mouth.

All these conspiracy theories. Some have "some" truth.
I talked about September 11 yesterday with my son as we were walking with grandson and my grandson's sister, a pit whose name is Nina - so my son tells me that there was absolutely no damage whatsoever at the Pentagon. Nothing so large that would indicate a
plane had damaged any part of the building.

I checked this Alex whatever's credentials. Good thing to do. So he's a "shock jock". Hmmmm...not a great source of real NEWS.

Yes, all manner of secrecy going on, and has been since the 1950's - McCarthy and HUAC (House of Unamerican Committee - dedicated to rooting out all
"Communists" all over the USA). That wasn't secret,
but it was an American shame.

People lost their livelihoods because of HUAC. The only amusing thing that happened (for those of you who don't know, the procedure happened like this: anyone the Committee wanted was brought before HUAC, and was asked, and this is a quote: "Have you now or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party"?)
And, people who copped to it, then ratted their "friends" who then suffered loss of livelihood. The amusing thing is that when Zero Mostel was brought before the Committee (and for this you need to understand that many on trial said - "I plead the 5th"),
and Zero Mostel looked at the witch-hunters and
wiggled 5 fingers of one hand, and left the box.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the Communist
party being a wonderful thing. This has to do with the
USA using techniques over the last 70 years to hunt down those they thought were "enemies". Such
civilized behavior, right? NO.

What galls me is that years after Dublya (rather,
the tragedy which was Cheney, and Rumsfeld) that
Rumsfeld stated that he'd always been against going into Iraq. Hypo-fuckin-crit. Cheney really is a tragic
figure.

And then we talked about JFK. There is no doubt that the C.I.A. was involved in JFK's murder. And, possibly
Lyndon Johnson. I mean, come on, Jack Ruby shoots
Lee Harvey Oswald from a distance of 2 feet. Ruby was
chosen because he was suffering from sphyllis of the
brain - it was systemic in his body. He was disposable.

So - back to the Pentagon. And whoever it was who said that Atta, "whom it was said flew one plane into one of the Twin Towers, was then seen alive somewhere in North Africa". OK. No, we don't know how much the CIA, FBI, had to do with 9/11. Killing more than 3,000 people is good for war. Who's to say it was the Taliban? Bin Laden was the Taliban. But there were terrorists all over the middle-east, loosely
associated, if at all. So, is it a fact that 3,000+ people
dying (Americans mostly) is a good excuse for going to war on 5 countries eventually.

Was Afghanistan a good war?

Were tortures in accordance with the Geneva Convention? Or does all that go out the moral window
when America military finds enemies?

Now, Syria is another matter. Iran is involved, but the
US can't be "seen" to support anything that Iran is
doing in Syria against ISIS. And, how do Russian weapons and tanks get to East Eukraine? How does
the USA send troups to Iraq for training of Iraqi soldiers who hate the USA, and have simply left their
uniforms, arms, etc., on the side of the road for ISIS to pick up?

Enough. Too much. Let the hawks fly :!: :!: :!:
Meanwhile, I'm calling an old friend from NY. Nighty
night. Bye for now Big Bob. I'll leave you to refute the
nut cases. You do it just fine. I am well-hated, and so
it goes.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

some good logic here.
Why do you think the US/CIA put ISIS where it is today?

Who wonders why CIA funded ISIS in Syria? Why did CONgress add another $500 million in funding "insurgents" in Syria?
The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zb is in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

well, eagleye, just listened to the whole video. So I guess we both know the answer. And it is without a doubt an undeniable fact that the USA (the powers of
the USA) that those we've helped, we then turn on.

It's interesting to me to hear ZB's comments, from years before, to more recent times. I was never an
admirer of ZB.

And, yes, it is completely against the Geneva Convention to kill, rather than take prisoners. I was
mistaken - it was 7 wars, not 5 wars. I could listen to
former General Wesley Clark for an hour. He is one person who speaks truthfully.

What a f**ked world. And what has America done
lately to make it better? Too complex. The Arabic countries in the region need to commit themselves to
defeating (and sending troups and materiel) ISIS,
by whatever name. To prevent Sharia law. What a place to bring children into. But, it's true that each one
of us, who wishes to, can make a difference.

Anything you feel strongly about, call your representative in Congress, Senate, the President, and
so on. That's one thing I do. Another thing is to go by
bus to the state capital, along with huge groups, and to activate for change. For me, this is Sacramento,
California. Jerry Brown et al. Calling my rep, Barbara
Lee. I'm in her district in Oakland.

I'm done. I'm gone. Can't call my old friend in NY - her house is having work done, so she's in and out. A
disappointment to me. She's someone I've known since we were 19 - doing drugs together. We've both
stopped. She has Hep C, though. There but for fortune
go I. New treatment is 100% effective. And she has
insurance, but will have a co-pay. But to be rid of
Hep C will be a blessing. Interferon doesn't work on the majority of people. And it makes you so sick while it's not working.

Answer any questions, eagleye?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

:thumbup: :lol: :lol: :lol:

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Too bad to few actually watch the video, pay attention, take it to heart, and share.
Wake up America.
Who wonders why CIA funded ISIS in Syria? Why did CONgress add another $500 million in funding "insurgents" in Syria?
The Covert Origins of ISIS: Zb is in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI

KHH1

I think it was W's Grandpa that set up the Military Industrial Complex in WWW1 with energy co's, construction co's and defense contractors...... I will start a thread so everyone can see why in the modern era....repubs live for war.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

NeoCONs use war to fill their pockets.
Liberals promote socialism to fill the same pockets.
The NWO fills the same pockets.

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

War is very profitable. Any reason to go to war is rationalized. And while the CIA and FBI are at it, along with the contractors, waterboarding, torture, not giving female prisoners tampons, and so on. All illegal, of course, but, as
the song went during the Vietnam "conflict": (not got all the words correct - it's been a while - Country Joe and the Fish)

One two three four,
What are we marching for?
We don't give a damn
Let our boys go to Vietnam

Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.

eagleye, wrong - liberals do NOT promote socialism for any
reason.
KHH1 is right. Modern era...And it's undeniable that the Republicans (and the secrets the public will never know, have never known - everything is kept from 'citizens' of this country) planned every war. Remember Wesley Clark?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Country Joe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Y0ekr-3So

Both parties are guilty of getting America in continuous war:
Here is why:
Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.

payne1000

Neil Young's lyrics were good as well:

"Ohio"

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

There's a lot of evidence that CFR is running the NWO show.
One thing that puzzles me though--why is Angelina Jolie a member of CFR?

Oh, wait. Maybe this is the reason: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=229051.0

DanceTherapist Loc: NYC, now Oakland, Ca

eagleye, You are right, of course. Sorry for my diatribe, and only saying Republicans. It's true. And I did forget that Allen Dulles was the founding member.
Oh, shite, and to quote Pogo (a comic you might
remember): "I have seen the enemy, and they is us".

payne1000

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep. I thought Joli was just window dressing. This article shows otherwise.
"One thing that puzzles me though--why is Angelina Jolie a member of CFR?
Oh, wait. Maybe this is the reason:" http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=229051.0



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payne1000

Her father, Jon Voight, prays to God to keep Israel safe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcajMsaCfE