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Jun 11, 2015 22:57:37   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Revisionist Zionism is a faction within the Zionist movement. It is the founding ideology of the non-religious right in Israel, and was the chief ideological competitor to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism. Revisionism is the precursor of the Likud Party" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

You again attempt to deceive by saying Irgun resigned from world Zionism when it was the World Zionist "Organization" they resigned from.
Resigning from one Zionist organization does not mean Irgun resigned from Zionism.

Keep on lying, emarine. I'll keep on exposing your lies.
i "Revisionist Zionism is a faction within t... (show quote)



Yes, you just "tell us", as you have been doing, Mr. Bag Dad Muslim. We know your reason and your mind set. Well,...we should say, "mindless set", as you have nothing but hate and stupidity in your rantings so far....

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Jun 12, 2015 08:41:19   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
What is your point here putz... stay with the program, You can play on words all night long ... my point is Einstein was not a anti Zionist as you would like us to believe therefore " you lie putz."... some more on Zionism for your delusional pleasure ... This was the first and only World Zionist Organization

The World Zionist Organization (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1463;&#1492;&#1460;&#1505;&#1456;&#1514;&#1463;&#1468;&#1491;&#1456;&#1468;&#1512;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1492;&#1463;&#1510;&#1460;&#1468;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514; &#1492;&#1464;&#1506;&#1493;&#1465;&#1500;&#1464;&#1502;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;; HaHistadrut HaTsionit HaOlamit), or WZO, was founded as the Zionist Organization (ZO; 1897-1960) at the initiative of Theodor Herzl at the First Zionist Congress, which took place in August 1897 in Basel, Switzerland. When it was founded, the goals of the Zionist movement were stated in a resolution that came of that Congress and came to be known as the “Basel Program.”


"Zionism aims at establishing for the Jewish people a legally assured home in Palestine. For the attainment of this purpose, the Congress considers the following means serviceable:

(1) the promotion of the settlement of Jewish agriculturists [farmers], artisans, and tradesmen in Palestine;
(2) the federation [unified organisation] of all Jews into local or general groups, according to the laws of the various countries;
(3) the strengthening of the Jewish feeling and consciousness [national sentiment and national consciousness];
(4) preparatory steps for the attainment of those governmental grants which are necessary to the achievement of the Zionist purpose."."
The WZO currently consists of the following bodies: The World Zionist Unions, international Zionist federations; and international organizations that define themselves as Zionist, such as WIZO, Hadassah, B'nai B'rith, Maccabi, the International Sephardic Federation, the three streams of world Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform), delegation from the CIS – Commonwealth of Independent States (some states of the former Soviet Union), the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS), and more.

The Jewish Agency is a parallel organisation, with goals, attributes and leadership closely intertwined with those of the Zionist Organization during the years before the establishment of the State of Israel, and to varying degrees after that. Significant changes to the statutes of both organisations occurred in 1952, 1970 and 1979.[1]



Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Membership and delegations
3 Presidents of (World) Zionist Organization
4 Chairs of the Executive of World Zionist Organization and/or the Jewish Agency for Israel
5 Sister organizations
6 World Zionist Congress
7 Jerusalem Program
8 Herzl Award
9 Settlement controversy
10 References
11 External links


History[edit]

Founded as the Zionist Organization (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1463;&#1492;&#1460;&#1505;&#1456;&#1514;&#1463;&#1468;&#1491;&#1456;&#1468;&#1512;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1492;&#1463;&#1510;&#1460;&#1468;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;; HaHistadrut HaTsionit), or ZO, in 1897 at the First Zionist Congress, held from August 29 to August 31 in Basel, Switzerland.[2] It changed its name to World Zionist Organization in January 1960.

The ZO served as an umbrella organization for the Zionist movement, whose objective was the creation of a Jewish homeland in Canaan - at that time under the Ottoman Empire and following the First World War The British Mandate of Palestine. When the State of Israel was declared 51 years later on May 14, 1948, many of its new administrative institutions were already in place, having evolved during the regular Zionist Congresses of the previous decades. Some of these institutions remain to this day.

Membership and delegations[edit]

Membership in the ZO was open to all Jews, and the right to vote for delegates to the Congresses was secured by the purchase of the Zionist Shekel. Delegations from all around the world, and from many different political backgrounds and religious traditions, took part in each Congress; delegations/parties were mainly grouped by ideology, rather than by geography.[citation needed]

In 1960 the ZO changed its name to the World Zionist Organization and adopted a new constitution under which individuals are ineligible for membership, which is reserved for organizations.

Presidents of (World) Zionist Organization[edit]
Theodor Herzl: (1897–1904)
David Wolffsohn: (1905–1911)
Otto Warburg: (1911–1921)
Chaim Weizmann (1st time): (1921–1931)
Nahum Sokolow: (1931–1935)
Chaim Weizmann (2nd time): (1935–1946)
David Ben-Gurion (acting): (1946–1956)
Nahum Goldmann: (1956–1968)[3]
Ehud Avriel: (1968–1972)

Chairs of the Executive of World Zionist Organization and/or the Jewish Agency for Israel[edit]
Simon Greenberg (1963–1968)[4]
Louis Arie Pincus (1968–Oct 1973), head of the executive of WZO until 1972
Yitzhak Navon (1972–1978), only head of the Executive of WZO
Aryeh Dolchin (Oct 1973–1975), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Pinhas Sapir (1975–12 Aug 1975), only head of the Jewish Agency
Aryeh Dolchin (12 Aug 1975–6 Jan 1976), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Yosef Almogi (6 Jan 1976–1978), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Aryeh Dolchin (1978–Dec 1987)
Simcha Dinitz (Dec 1987–14 Feb 1994)
Yehiel Leket (Feb 1994–Feb 1995)
Avraham Burg (Feb 1995–Feb 1999)
Sallai Meridor (25 Feb 1999–2005), "acting" until May 1999, then elected
Zeev Bielski (2005–2009)
Avraham Duvdevani (2010–present)[5]

In 2009, the positions were separated again. Natan Sharansky was elected as the head of the Jewish Agency and Avraham Duvdevani was elected as the new Chairman of the WZO at the 36th Zionist Congress, on 15 June 2010.

Sister organizations[edit]

The finances of the WZO were conducted by the Jewish Colonial Trust (founded in 1899), and acquisition of land was conducted by the Jewish National Fund (founded in 1901).[6] Keren Hayesod (founded 1920) funded Zionist and Yishuv activities prior to the creation of the state of Israel through enterprises such as the Palestine Electric Company, the Palestine Potash Company and the Anglo-Palestine Bank
What is your point here putz... stay with the prog... (show quote)


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My point has always been that Einstein was against Jewish terrorism.
Jewish terrorists in the Middle East have always been Zionists.
Do you know about the Lavon Affair?
In 1954 Israel intelligence operatives recruited Egyptian Jews to set off bombs in American diplomatic offices in Egypt which would be blamed on Egyptians in hopes of breaking up an Eisenhower-Nasser alliance.
http://www.wrmea.org/1992-july/the-lavon-affair-when-israel-firebombed-u.s.-installations.html
If you add to that the King David Hotel and the World Trade Center, Zionists lean toward blowing up buildings as their favorite mode of terrorism.

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Jun 12, 2015 08:43:19   #
payne1000
 
America Only wrote:
Yes, you just "tell us", as you have been doing, Mr. Bag Dad Muslim. We know your reason and your mind set. Well,...we should say, "mindless set", as you have nothing but hate and stupidity in your rantings so far....



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Jun 12, 2015 08:57:57   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
.. the only thing that you expose is your hatred, you choose to use the word Zion as a bad thing...Lets just blame the Jews for everything ... Its extreme right wing terrorists that are the main problem weather it be Jews, Hamas or Rocky the flying squirrel ... All of Zion is not extreme right wing terrorists, can you say the same for Hamas or Isis? So lets recap here ... so far you posted a link majorly downplaying the holocaust ... those Nazis did not gas the Jews they just worked and starved them to death, no problems there putz... then you try to steal one of the smartest guys of the century and label him an anti Zionist when in reality he was clearly a Zionist... then you post stupid stiff rats when you dont get your way... I bet your shy on friends putz..
.. the only thing that you expose is your hatred, ... (show quote)


"Speaking in New York City in 1938, Einstein declared: "I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state... My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power... I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/16/israel.india

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Jun 12, 2015 10:19:52   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Speaking in New York City in 1938, Einstein declared: "I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state... My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power... I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/16/israel.india


So this is your proof of Einstein being anti Zionist?... Wrong, As stated Einstein was a firm believer in Zionist labor or socialist Zionism , He initially was against a state of Israel with borders thinking that Jews and Arabs would learn to share the land as done for 100's of years before , He proved himself wrong later in life , He was asked to be President of the state of Israel at one time , he declined saying that he did not understand people well enough for the job...Smart guy... So there you have a Zionist who believed in the return of the Jew's to their homeland but was not crazy about making it a state with borders at first. There is more to Zionists than a label or name... Just like all Republicans dont support the Tea Party but they are still Republicans... You can't turn Einstein into a Anti Zionist because you choose to...

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Jun 12, 2015 10:54:36   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
So this is your proof of Einstein being anti Zionist?... Wrong, As stated Einstein was a firm believer in Zionist labor or socialist Zionism , He initially was against a state of Israel with borders thinking that Jews and Arabs would learn to share the land as done for 100's of years before , He proved himself wrong later in life , He was asked to be President of the state of Israel at one time , he declined saying that he did not understand people well enough for the job...Smart guy... So there you have a Zionist who believed in the return of the Jew's to their homeland but was not crazy about making it a state with borders at first. There is more to Zionists than a label or name... Just like all Republicans dont support the Tea Party but they are still Republicans... You can't turn Einstein into a Anti Zionist because you choose to...
So this is your proof of Einstein being anti Zioni... (show quote)


Einstein's early conclusions about a Jewish state proved to be right. The State of Israel with borders, an army and temporal power has been bad for Judaism. Zionism is the main cause of anti-Semitism in the world.

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Jun 12, 2015 12:20:38   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Einstein's early conclusions about a Jewish state proved to be right. The State of Israel with borders, an army and temporal power has been bad for Judaism. Zionism is the main cause of anti-Semitism in the world.


I disagree,,,, anti Semitism was around long before the Jewish state of Israel... throughout time groups of people have had prejudices towards other groups that are different , Mans inhumanity to man... This is simple human nature. Do people hate America for defeating the British and taking their land ?

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Jun 12, 2015 12:24:19   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
I disagree,,,, anti Semitism was around long before the Jewish state of Israel... throughout time groups of people have had prejudices towards other groups that are different , Mans inhumanity to man... This is simple human nature. Do people hate America for defeating the British and taking their land ?


At least you're willing to admit that Zionists' taking of Palestinian land is an example of "mans' inhumanity to man."

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Jun 12, 2015 12:41:38   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
At least you're willing to admit that Zionists' taking of Palestinian land is an example of "mans' inhumanity to man."


You are very slow to learn... this is a chicken or egg argument... The Jews owned the land long before the Palestinians were a organized group of people, then defeated all Arabs in war, War sucks but the profits go to the victor... Very simple defination

spoils of war



Noun[edit]

spoils of war (plural only)
1.Any profits extracted as the result of winning a war or other military activity

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Jun 12, 2015 12:48:39   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You are very slow to learn... this is a chicken or egg argument... The Jews owned the land long before the Palestinians were a organized group of people, then defeated all Arabs in war, War sucks but the profits go to the victor... Very simple defination

spoils of war



Noun[edit]

spoils of war (plural only)
1.Any profits extracted as the result of winning a war or other military activity


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It appears you're perfectly okay with "man's inhumanity to man," as long as the inhumanity is being done by Jews and not to them.



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Jun 12, 2015 13:10:02   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
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It appears you're perfectly okay with "man's inhumanity to man," as long as the inhumanity is being done by Jews and not to them.


Unfortunately "mans inhumanity to man" is a fact of life... I can post all the pictures of Hamas terrorist's killing Jews if that what floats your boat, The fact that you only present one side of the story is the problem... you hard sell one point of view, your view which is far from reality, Here in America we are blessed with our freedom of speech... and I do enjoy calling you a putz... "trust me on that one" :thumbup:

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Jun 12, 2015 13:22:06   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Unfortunately "mans inhumanity to man" is a fact of life... I can post all the pictures of Hamas terrorist's killing Jews if that what floats your boat, The fact that you only present one side of the story is the problem... you hard sell one point of view, your view which is far from reality, Here in America we are blessed with our freedom of speech... and I do enjoy calling you a putz... "trust me on that one" :thumbup:


I'd like to see those photos of Hamas terrorists killing Jews. The much ballyhooed rockets have only killed 32 Israelis in the past 10 years.

If you posted a photo of each Israeli death, that would only be 32 photos and would only include 4 children.

If I posted a photo of every Palestinian death in Gaza caused by Israeli bombing during the last 7 years, it would be about 3,500 photos and include over 800 children.

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Jun 12, 2015 13:52:30   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
I'd like to see those photos of Hamas terrorists killing Jews. The much ballyhooed rockets have only killed 32 Israelis in the past 10 years.

If you posted a photo of each Israeli death, that would only be 32 photos and would only include 4 children.

If I posted a photo of every Palestinian death in Gaza caused by Israeli bombing during the last 7 years, it would be about 3,500 photos and include over 800 children.


So you choose to continue with your game.... Some reasons are the Jews are smart and dont hide behind women and children, They" the Jews" care about their own, unlike Hamas terrorist's who control Palestine , They have prepared themselves from terrorist attacks over time because they are a daily events.... They have provided a early warning system with many bomb shelters for their people, they deploy the Iron dome system shooting down the majority of terrorist missiles before they land. You want me to side with Hamas terrorists because the Jews are better at defending themselves... There is always a price to pay for war... Hamas rockets cost around 800.00 each,,, iron dome defensive missiles cost 40k each, Hamas can launch 100's of missiles every day hiding them in school yards and hospitals well distributed in the civilian population , Do you expect the Jews to do nothing except shoot down missiles ... think about this... if Mexico shot 100's of missiles into Texas every day and killed one American, what would we do to Mexico as a civilized Nation ,,,,, I think it wound be hard to find a living Mexican north of the equator after 30 days... think about it putz

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Jun 12, 2015 14:22:40   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
So you choose to continue with your game.... Some reasons are the Jews are smart and dont hide behind women and children, They" the Jews" care about their own, unlike Hamas terrorist's who control Palestine , They have prepared themselves from terrorist attacks over time because they are a daily events.... They have provided a early warning system with many bomb shelters for their people, they deploy the Iron dome system shooting down the majority of terrorist missiles before they land. You want me to side with Hamas terrorists because the Jews are better at defending themselves... There is always a price to pay for war... Hamas rockets cost around 800.00 each,,, iron dome defensive missiles cost 40k each, Hamas can launch 100's of missiles every day hiding them in school yards and hospitals well distributed in the civilian population , Do you expect the Jews to do nothing except shoot down missiles ... think about this... if Mexico shot 100's of missiles into Texas every day and killed one American, what would we do to Mexico as a civilized Nation ,,,,, I think it wound be hard to find a living Mexican north of the equator after 30 days... think about it putz
So you choose to continue with your game.... Some ... (show quote)


What you fail to mention is that the majority of Gaza's residents are from refugee families which fled or were expelled from the land that became Israel in 1948. Most of the Palestinians in Gaza had their land taken from them. Israel and Egypt control Gaza's border, not letting them bring in enough food or water to live in good health. The water Israel supplies Gaza is treated sewer water. Israel also controls Gaza's territorial waters--not allowing them to have a port and not allowing humanitarian ships to bring in desperately needed medical supplies and rebuilding supplies. If Israel would open Gaza's borders, allow them to have the needed food, water and supplies--and allow them to have a seaport--the rockets would stop. But Israel wants the rockets to continue, so they can continue to slaughter every civilian in Gaza--especially women and children which cause the population to grow.

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Jun 12, 2015 15:04:46   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
What you fail to mention is that the majority of Gaza's residents are from refugee families which fled or were expelled from the land that became Israel in 1948. Most of the Palestinians in Gaza had their land taken from them. Israel and Egypt control Gaza's border, not letting them bring in enough food or water to live in good health. The water Israel supplies Gaza is treated sewer water. Israel also controls Gaza's territorial waters--not allowing them to have a port and not allowing humanitarian ships to bring in desperately needed medical supplies and rebuilding supplies. If Israel would open Gaza's borders, allow them to have the needed food, water and supplies--and allow them to have a seaport--the rockets would stop. But Israel wants the rockets to continue, so they can continue to slaughter every civilian in Gaza--especially women and children which cause the population to grow.
What you fail to mention is that the majority of G... (show quote)


Before 2005 there were Jewish settlers living in Gaza with the Arabs , There Jewish settlers lived in the exact same conditions as the Arabs but chose to build up the areas, They Jews were asked to leave by the Arabs and the rocket attacks would stop in Israel... The Israeli's went into Gaza and dragged the Jews out of Gaza by force in trade for peace... the Arabs tore down everything built by the Jewish settlers and Attacked Israel the day after all the Jews were out of Gaza... If you want to go tit for tat on inhumanity watch the link I posted for you... skip to the Hamas part towards the end ... There you can witness Hamas killing around 50 Palestinian boys and men because they refused to join the terrorists cause... The country I support is the USA, we are at war with terrorism, I feel that Israel fights the same war... The fact that peaceful Arabs die is a tragedy as well as peaceful people of all races due to terrorism... I have no argument there...

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