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Jun 11, 2015 15:29:42   #
payne1000
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
You are insane.


Insults are not debate. They are a signal that you have lost the debate.

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Jun 11, 2015 15:33:02   #
CarolSeer2016
 
payne1000 wrote:
Insults are not debate. They are a signal that you have lost the debate.


You can take that as an insult if you wish. It is simply the truth.

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Jun 11, 2015 15:37:52   #
payne1000
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
You can take that as an insult if you wish. It is simply the truth.


Are you an Ashkenazi?

If you are it is you who is 40% more likely to have mental disorder.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.560128

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Jun 11, 2015 15:43:10   #
CarolSeer2016
 
payne1000 wrote:
Are you an Ashkenazi?

If you are it is you who is 40% more likely to have mental disorder.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.560128


Goodbye. You are pain in the....

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Jun 11, 2015 16:29:18   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You didn't understand the meaning of the letter at all until I explained it to you. The Jewish terrorists Einstein was referring to were Zionists. Do you deny that?


I understand what Einstein wrote in his 1948 letter to Rifkin in its entirety and why ... Maybe its you who doesn't understand Einstein. chances are Al knew a bit more than you at the time, and what he knew was true

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Jun 11, 2015 16:35:34   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
I understand what Einstein wrote in his 1948 letter to Rifkin in its entirety and why ... Maybe its you who doesn't understand Einstein. chances are Al knew a bit more than you at the time, and what he knew was true


Why don't you explain to readers what you knew about the letter before I explained it to you?
Then explain why you posted it.

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Jun 11, 2015 16:37:16   #
CarolSeer2016
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why don't you explain to readers what you knew about the letter before I explained it to you?
Then explain why you posted it.


Do you understand this, Pain?

E=mc2.

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Jun 11, 2015 16:40:30   #
payne1000
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Goodbye. You are pain in the....


No denial so I guess we can assume you are Ashkenazi.
Ashkenazis make up at least 80% of the Jewish population of the world.
It's unlikely you would be Sephardic.

Now if you consider 80% of the Jews in the world are 40% more likely to develop mental disorders, that may explain why Jews have a hard time getting along with other races and religions. It might even explain why they think they are "the chosen."

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Jun 11, 2015 16:49:04   #
payne1000
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Do you understand this, Pain?

E=mc2.


That appears to be a formula for determining how much energy a given mass contains.

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Jun 11, 2015 17:50:51   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Why don't you explain to readers what you knew about the letter before I explained it to you?
Then explain why you posted it.


It appears that every group of people have some bad asses... Example your hero David Duke... he has many followers and his own agenda , but is far from making public policy.... Einstein was a social Zionist and a pacifist

Labor Zionism or Socialist Zionism[1] (Hebrew: &#1510;&#1460;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1505;&#1493;&#1465;&#1510;&#1456;&#1497;&#1464;&#1488;&#1500;&#1460;&#1497;&#1505;&#1456;&#1496;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;, translit. tsionut sotsialistit) can be described as the major stream of the left wing of the Zionist movement. It was, for many years, the most significant tendency among Zionists and Zionist organizational structure. It saw itself as the Zionist sector of the historic Jewish labor movements of Eastern and Central Europe, eventually developing local units in most countries with sizeable Jewish populations. Unlike the "political Zionist" tendency founded by Theodor Herzl and advocated by Chaim Weizmann, Labor Zionists did not believe that a Jewish state would be created simply by appealing to the international community or to a powerful nation such as Britain, Germany or the Ottoman Empire. Rather, Labor Zionists believed that a Jewish state could only be created through the efforts of the Jewish working class settling in Palestine and constructing a state through the creation of a progressive Jewish society with rural kibbutzim and moshavim and an urban Jewish proletariat.

Labor Zionism grew in size and influence and eclipsed "political Zionism" by the 1930s both internationally and within the British Mandate of Palestine where Labor Zionists predominated among many of the institutions of the pre-independence Jewish community Yishuv, particularly the trade union federation known as the Histadrut. The Haganah – the largest Zionist paramilitary defense force – was a Labor Zionist institution and was used on occasion (such as during the Hunting Season) against right-wing political opponents or to assist the British Administration in capturing rival Jewish militants.

Labor Zionists played a leading role in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and Labor Zionists were predominant among the leadership of the Israeli military for decades after the formation of the state of Israel in 1948.

Major theoreticians of the Labor Zionist movement included Moses Hess, Nachman Syrkin, Ber Borochov and Aaron David Gordon and leading figures in the movement included David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir and Berl Katznelson


Irgun Zvai Leumi


Irgun Zvai Leumi, ( Hebrew: National Military Organization) byname Etzel, Jewish right-wing underground movement in Palestine, founded in 1931. At first supported by many nonsocialist Zionist parties, in opposition to the Haganah, it became in 1936 an instrument of the Revisionist Party, an extreme nationalist group that had seceded from the World Zionist Organization and whose policies called for the use of force, if necessary, to establish a Jewish state on both sides of the Jordan.

Irgun committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab. Irgun participated in the organization of illegal immigration into Palestine after the publication of the British White Paper on Palestine (1939), which severely limited immigration. Irgun’s violent activities led to execution of many of its members by the British; in retaliation, Irgun executed British army hostages.

Irgun’s members were extremely disciplined and daring, and their actions included the capture of &#703;Akko (Acre) prison, a medieval fortress that not even Napoleon had succeeded in capturing. In the last days of the British mandate, it captured a large part of the city of Yafo (Jaffa).

On July 22, 1946, Irgun blew up a wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, a group of Irgun commandos raided the Arab village of Dayr Y&#257;s&#299;n (modern Kefar Sha&#702;ul), killing about 100 of its inhabitants.

After the creation of Israel in 1948 Irgun’s last units disbanded and took the oath of loyalty to the Israel Defense Forces on September 1, 1948. Politically, it was the precursor of the &#7716;erut (Freedom) Party, one of Israel’s most militant right-wing groups, which later merged with the Liberals into the Ga&#7717;al Party. See also Stern Gang

So ... this far right wing group is the one you claim Einstein called Zionist when in reality they were not , Einstein's letter to Rifkin stated he would not support terrorism he thought terrorism was criminal ... you twist Zionism for your political gain .... just like your hero David Duke ....

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Jun 11, 2015 18:29:57   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
It appears that every group of people have some bad asses... Example your hero David Duke... he has many followers and his own agenda , but is far from making public policy.... Einstein was a social Zionist and a pacifist

Labor Zionism or Socialist Zionism[1] (Hebrew: &#1510;&#1460;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1505;&#1493;&#1465;&#1510;&#1456;&#1497;&#1464;&#1488;&#1500;&#1460;&#1497;&#1505;&#1456;&#1496;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;, translit. tsionut sotsialistit) can be described as the major stream of the left wing of the Zionist movement. It was, for many years, the most significant tendency among Zionists and Zionist organizational structure. It saw itself as the Zionist sector of the historic Jewish labor movements of Eastern and Central Europe, eventually developing local units in most countries with sizeable Jewish populations. Unlike the "political Zionist" tendency founded by Theodor Herzl and advocated by Chaim Weizmann, Labor Zionists did not believe that a Jewish state would be created simply by appealing to the international community or to a powerful nation such as Britain, Germany or the Ottoman Empire. Rather, Labor Zionists believed that a Jewish state could only be created through the efforts of the Jewish working class settling in Palestine and constructing a state through the creation of a progressive Jewish society with rural kibbutzim and moshavim and an urban Jewish proletariat.

Labor Zionism grew in size and influence and eclipsed "political Zionism" by the 1930s both internationally and within the British Mandate of Palestine where Labor Zionists predominated among many of the institutions of the pre-independence Jewish community Yishuv, particularly the trade union federation known as the Histadrut. The Haganah – the largest Zionist paramilitary defense force – was a Labor Zionist institution and was used on occasion (such as during the Hunting Season) against right-wing political opponents or to assist the British Administration in capturing rival Jewish militants.

Labor Zionists played a leading role in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and Labor Zionists were predominant among the leadership of the Israeli military for decades after the formation of the state of Israel in 1948.

Major theoreticians of the Labor Zionist movement included Moses Hess, Nachman Syrkin, Ber Borochov and Aaron David Gordon and leading figures in the movement included David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir and Berl Katznelson


Irgun Zvai Leumi


Irgun Zvai Leumi, ( Hebrew: National Military Organization) byname Etzel, Jewish right-wing underground movement in Palestine, founded in 1931. At first supported by many nonsocialist Zionist parties, in opposition to the Haganah, it became in 1936 an instrument of the Revisionist Party, an extreme nationalist group that had seceded from the World Zionist Organization and whose policies called for the use of force, if necessary, to establish a Jewish state on both sides of the Jordan.

Irgun committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab. Irgun participated in the organization of illegal immigration into Palestine after the publication of the British White Paper on Palestine (1939), which severely limited immigration. Irgun’s violent activities led to execution of many of its members by the British; in retaliation, Irgun executed British army hostages.

Irgun’s members were extremely disciplined and daring, and their actions included the capture of &#703;Akko (Acre) prison, a medieval fortress that not even Napoleon had succeeded in capturing. In the last days of the British mandate, it captured a large part of the city of Yafo (Jaffa).

On July 22, 1946, Irgun blew up a wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 soldiers and civilians (British, Arab, and Jewish). On April 9, 1947, a group of Irgun commandos raided the Arab village of Dayr Y&#257;s&#299;n (modern Kefar Sha&#702;ul), killing about 100 of its inhabitants.

After the creation of Israel in 1948 Irgun’s last units disbanded and took the oath of loyalty to the Israel Defense Forces on September 1, 1948. Politically, it was the precursor of the &#7716;erut (Freedom) Party, one of Israel’s most militant right-wing groups, which later merged with the Liberals into the Ga&#7717;al Party. See also Stern Gang

So ... this far right wing group is the one you claim Einstein called Zionist when in reality they were not , Einstein's letter to Rifkin stated he would not support terrorism he thought terrorism was criminal ... you twist Zionism for your political gain .... just like your hero David Duke ....
It appears that every group of people have some ba... (show quote)


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Every source I can find labels Irgun as Zionist terrorists.
How could they not be Zionists when they were totally committed to the state of Israel?

" Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang."
http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

When you choose to lie, you are driven into an endless stream of lies to cover up the previous lies.

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Jun 11, 2015 19:23:59   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
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Every source I can find labels Irgun as Zionist terrorists.
How could they not be Zionists when they were totally committed to the state of Israel?

" Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang."
http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

When you choose to lie, you are driven into an endless stream of lies to cover up the previous lies.
__________________________________________________... (show quote)


its hard to be called a Zionist group when you secede from world Zionism ... therefore you cant insert the word Zionist anywhere you choose... you choose to deceive all by making Einstein out to be Anti Zionist... in which he was not,...very clear, very simple, its you who cant comprehend or just choose to lie...putz

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Jun 11, 2015 20:50:17   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
its hard to be called a Zionist group when you secede from world Zionism ... therefore you cant insert the word Zionist anywhere you choose... you choose to deceive all by making Einstein out to be Anti Zionist... in which he was not,...very clear, very simple, its you who cant comprehend or just choose to lie...putz


"Revisionist Zionism is a faction within the Zionist movement. It is the founding ideology of the non-religious right in Israel, and was the chief ideological competitor to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism. Revisionism is the precursor of the Likud Party" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

You again attempt to deceive by saying Irgun resigned from world Zionism when it was the World Zionist "Organization" they resigned from.
Resigning from one Zionist organization does not mean Irgun resigned from Zionism.

Keep on lying, emarine. I'll keep on exposing your lies.

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Jun 11, 2015 21:39:34   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Revisionist Zionism is a faction within the Zionist movement. It is the founding ideology of the non-religious right in Israel, and was the chief ideological competitor to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism. Revisionism is the precursor of the Likud Party" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

You again attempt to deceive by saying Irgun resigned from world Zionism when it was the World Zionist "Organization" they resigned from.
Resigning from one Zionist organization does not mean Irgun resigned from Zionism

Keep on lying, emarine. I'll keep on exposing your lies.
i "Revisionist Zionism is a faction within t... (show quote)


What is your point here putz... stay with the program, You can play on words all night long ... my point is Einstein was not a anti Zionist as you would like us to believe therefore " you lie putz."... some more on Zionism for your delusional pleasure ... This was the first and only World Zionist Organization

The World Zionist Organization (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1463;&#1492;&#1460;&#1505;&#1456;&#1514;&#1463;&#1468;&#1491;&#1456;&#1468;&#1512;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1492;&#1463;&#1510;&#1460;&#1468;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514; &#1492;&#1464;&#1506;&#1493;&#1465;&#1500;&#1464;&#1502;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;; HaHistadrut HaTsionit HaOlamit), or WZO, was founded as the Zionist Organization (ZO; 1897-1960) at the initiative of Theodor Herzl at the First Zionist Congress, which took place in August 1897 in Basel, Switzerland. When it was founded, the goals of the Zionist movement were stated in a resolution that came of that Congress and came to be known as the “Basel Program.”


"Zionism aims at establishing for the Jewish people a legally assured home in Palestine. For the attainment of this purpose, the Congress considers the following means serviceable:

(1) the promotion of the settlement of Jewish agriculturists [farmers], artisans, and tradesmen in Palestine;
(2) the federation [unified organisation] of all Jews into local or general groups, according to the laws of the various countries;
(3) the strengthening of the Jewish feeling and consciousness [national sentiment and national consciousness];
(4) preparatory steps for the attainment of those governmental grants which are necessary to the achievement of the Zionist purpose."."
The WZO currently consists of the following bodies: The World Zionist Unions, international Zionist federations; and international organizations that define themselves as Zionist, such as WIZO, Hadassah, B'nai B'rith, Maccabi, the International Sephardic Federation, the three streams of world Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform), delegation from the CIS – Commonwealth of Independent States (some states of the former Soviet Union), the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS), and more.

The Jewish Agency is a parallel organisation, with goals, attributes and leadership closely intertwined with those of the Zionist Organization during the years before the establishment of the State of Israel, and to varying degrees after that. Significant changes to the statutes of both organisations occurred in 1952, 1970 and 1979.[1]



Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Membership and delegations
3 Presidents of (World) Zionist Organization
4 Chairs of the Executive of World Zionist Organization and/or the Jewish Agency for Israel
5 Sister organizations
6 World Zionist Congress
7 Jerusalem Program
8 Herzl Award
9 Settlement controversy
10 References
11 External links


History[edit]

Founded as the Zionist Organization (Hebrew: &#1492;&#1463;&#1492;&#1460;&#1505;&#1456;&#1514;&#1463;&#1468;&#1491;&#1456;&#1468;&#1512;&#1493;&#1468;&#1514; &#1492;&#1463;&#1510;&#1460;&#1468;&#1497;&#1468;&#1493;&#1465;&#1504;&#1460;&#1497;&#1514;; HaHistadrut HaTsionit), or ZO, in 1897 at the First Zionist Congress, held from August 29 to August 31 in Basel, Switzerland.[2] It changed its name to World Zionist Organization in January 1960.

The ZO served as an umbrella organization for the Zionist movement, whose objective was the creation of a Jewish homeland in Canaan - at that time under the Ottoman Empire and following the First World War The British Mandate of Palestine. When the State of Israel was declared 51 years later on May 14, 1948, many of its new administrative institutions were already in place, having evolved during the regular Zionist Congresses of the previous decades. Some of these institutions remain to this day.

Membership and delegations[edit]

Membership in the ZO was open to all Jews, and the right to vote for delegates to the Congresses was secured by the purchase of the Zionist Shekel. Delegations from all around the world, and from many different political backgrounds and religious traditions, took part in each Congress; delegations/parties were mainly grouped by ideology, rather than by geography.[citation needed]

In 1960 the ZO changed its name to the World Zionist Organization and adopted a new constitution under which individuals are ineligible for membership, which is reserved for organizations.

Presidents of (World) Zionist Organization[edit]
Theodor Herzl: (1897–1904)
David Wolffsohn: (1905–1911)
Otto Warburg: (1911–1921)
Chaim Weizmann (1st time): (1921–1931)
Nahum Sokolow: (1931–1935)
Chaim Weizmann (2nd time): (1935–1946)
David Ben-Gurion (acting): (1946–1956)
Nahum Goldmann: (1956–1968)[3]
Ehud Avriel: (1968–1972)

Chairs of the Executive of World Zionist Organization and/or the Jewish Agency for Israel[edit]
Simon Greenberg (1963–1968)[4]
Louis Arie Pincus (1968–Oct 1973), head of the executive of WZO until 1972
Yitzhak Navon (1972–1978), only head of the Executive of WZO
Aryeh Dolchin (Oct 1973–1975), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Pinhas Sapir (1975–12 Aug 1975), only head of the Jewish Agency
Aryeh Dolchin (12 Aug 1975–6 Jan 1976), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Yosef Almogi (6 Jan 1976–1978), only chairman of the Jewish Agency
Aryeh Dolchin (1978–Dec 1987)
Simcha Dinitz (Dec 1987–14 Feb 1994)
Yehiel Leket (Feb 1994–Feb 1995)
Avraham Burg (Feb 1995–Feb 1999)
Sallai Meridor (25 Feb 1999–2005), "acting" until May 1999, then elected
Zeev Bielski (2005–2009)
Avraham Duvdevani (2010–present)[5]

In 2009, the positions were separated again. Natan Sharansky was elected as the head of the Jewish Agency and Avraham Duvdevani was elected as the new Chairman of the WZO at the 36th Zionist Congress, on 15 June 2010.

Sister organizations[edit]

The finances of the WZO were conducted by the Jewish Colonial Trust (founded in 1899), and acquisition of land was conducted by the Jewish National Fund (founded in 1901).[6] Keren Hayesod (founded 1920) funded Zionist and Yishuv activities prior to the creation of the state of Israel through enterprises such as the Palestine Electric Company, the Palestine Potash Company and the Anglo-Palestine Bank

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Jun 11, 2015 22:45:26   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
"Revisionist Zionism is a faction within the Zionist movement. It is the founding ideology of the non-religious right in Israel, and was the chief ideological competitor to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism. Revisionism is the precursor of the Likud Party" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

You again attempt to deceive by saying Irgun resigned from world Zionism when it was the World Zionist "Organization" they resigned from.
Resigning from one Zionist organization does not mean Irgun resigned from Zionism.

Keep on lying, emarine. I'll keep on exposing your lies.
i "Revisionist Zionism is a faction within t... (show quote)


.. the only thing that you expose is your hatred, you choose to use the word Zion as a bad thing...Lets just blame the Jews for everything ... Its extreme right wing terrorists that are the main problem weather it be Jews, Hamas or Rocky the flying squirrel ... All of Zion is not extreme right wing terrorists, can you say the same for Hamas or Isis? So lets recap here ... so far you posted a link majorly downplaying the holocaust ... those Nazis did not gas the Jews they just worked and starved them to death, no problems there putz... then you try to steal one of the smartest guys of the century and label him an anti Zionist when in reality he was clearly a Zionist... then you post stupid stiff rats when you dont get your way... I bet your shy on friends putz..

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