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Apr 12, 2017 20:51:03   #
Glaucon
 
pafret wrote:
Intelligence is not questioning everything, that is simply obstructionism. "Veritas Quaere", stay curious, seek the truth is intelligent. Obama did two things well --- he left town after Trump's inauguration and he went to Tahiti and hasn't come back.


Questioning everything is only good sense and basic intelligence. Why is it I am not surprised you see common sense as obstructionism?

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Apr 12, 2017 21:39:20   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Glaucon wrote:
You said nothing about Obama's birth. It was I who said something about Obama's birth. I was pointing out that you folks thought Obama was born in Kenya and that he didn't have a birth certificate to prove he was born inb America. When it was proven beyond any possible doubt that he was not born in Kenya and an official copy of his birth certificate was posted on the internet you folks were still not able to accept the obvious and the proven. You were wrong about both of those issues and you were not strong and honest enough to admit you were putting forth bogus information. Honest people would have had enough integrity to admit their attempt to deceive. Now you are still claiming Obama is not a natural born citizen and I don't know if this time you are misinformed or dishonest or both again. You know a lot for sure that is entirely bogus and you might want to admit your misinformation or admit attempt to get away with a bald faced lie . I can't see that it could have been any other reason..


Ypu might want to back off the tough, know it all posture as it causes you to look foolish AND dishonest.

If yiou don't get this time, let me know and I will splain it again.
You said nothing about Obama's birth. It was I wh... (show quote)


His alleged birth certificate has been called into question by two Document examiners of impeccable credentials. I pointed out to YOU that you brought up his birth. Your responses are bizarre, what are you smoking or are you plastererd?

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Apr 12, 2017 21:41:45   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Glaucon wrote:
Questioning everything is only good sense and basic intelligence. Why is it I am not surprised you see common sense as obstructionism?


Your reasoning abilities are as deficient as your perceptions of reality. You postulate false major premises and then draw erroneous conclusions. You are a waste of time.

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Apr 12, 2017 22:25:37   #
Glaucon
 
pafret wrote:
Your reasoning abilities are as deficient as your perceptions of reality. You postulate false major premises and then draw erroneous conclusions. You are a waste of time.


You talk gibberish. I don't have time to splain it to you.

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Apr 12, 2017 22:26:32   #
Glaucon
 
pafret wrote:
Your reasoning abilities are as deficient as your perceptions of reality. You postulate false major premises and then draw erroneous conclusions. You are a waste of time.


You may need to go postulate Yourself.

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Apr 12, 2017 22:28:53   #
Glaucon
 
pafret wrote:
His alleged birth certificate has been called into question by two Document examiners of impeccable credentials. I pointed out to YOU that you brought up his birth. Your responses are bizarre, what are you smoking or are you plastererd?


You need to pay attention and learn what reliable and valid sources are. You are either stupid or crazy and I really don't care which.

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Apr 12, 2017 22:34:28   #
Richard Rowland
 
Glaucon wrote:
How to increase your intelligence:

Intelligence is the habit of questioning everything, but .specially questioning ourselves and the tribes we have joined. liberals and conservatives say they agree that we should all be responsible for ourselves and both groups cling so tightly to the views and talking points that our tribes demand us to cling to. Have you ever seen a self labeled conservative point out anything Obama has done that is good for our country? Have you ever seen a self labeled liberal point out a single thing on which they agree with Trump? Black/white, all or nothing "thinking" makes us stupid and keeps us that way. I will be interested in your agreements or disagreements with this comment.
How to increase your intelligence: br br Intellig... (show quote)


Well, had you been paying attention to the one person on here who has all the answers (Me) you would have read that I thought Obama was dumb when he created the red line, but was right to proceed with caution when Syria was suspected of using chemical weapons?

Here's what I suspect, Obama was screwin' up the country with his liberal and Islamist nonsense. However, being in the position of president, he had a first-hand knowledge of the other players. Those that have been leading America around by the nose and into the morass of the Middle East and eventually anywhere else the war mongers wanted to go. Dare I say the jews? There are many on here that buy into the notion that Isreal is a special ally. Bullshit, of course, Isreal (is) special in that it probably gets more American tax money than all other countries, put together, America considers allies. And before anyone raises an argument against, please tell me what if anything America gets in return.

Anyway, Obama didn't like the jews, for probably several reasons, but the main reason is he equated the oppressive treatment of the Palestinians with how blacks were/are treated by whites.

Obama sensed, even though he had been elected twice, he was powerless against certain powerful forces, the Jewish lobby being one and the industrial military complex another, for starters. Both, probably, one in the same. However, that didn't stop him from attempting to wreck havoc by the means he had: executive orders.

Eventually, along comes Trump, the great boasting hope, who is now finding out what he's up against. He's beginning to waver with each passing day. Bend over and grab the ankles, for once again the people have been duped; nothing has changed!

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Apr 12, 2017 23:48:02   #
Glaucon
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Well, had you been paying attention to the one person on here who has all the answers (Me) you would have read that I thought Obama was dumb when he created the red line, but was right to proceed with caution when Syria was suspected of using chemical weapons?

Here's what I suspect, Obama was screwin' up the country with his liberal and Islamist nonsense. However, being in the position of president, he had a first-hand knowledge of the other players. Those that have been leading America around by the nose and into the morass of the Middle East and eventually anywhere else the war mongers wanted to go. Dare I say the jews? There are many on here that buy into the notion that Isreal is a special ally. Bullshit, of course, Isreal (is) special in that it probably gets more American tax money than all other countries, put together, America considers allies. And before anyone raises an argument against, please tell me what if anything America gets in return.

Anyway, Obama didn't like the jews, for probably several reasons, but the main reason is he equated the oppressive treatment of the Palestinians with how blacks were/are treated by whites.

Obama sensed, even though he had been elected twice, he was powerless against certain powerful forces, the Jewish lobby being one and the industrial military complex another, for starters. Both, probably, one in the same. However, that didn't stop him from attempting to wreck havoc by the means he had: executive orders.

Eventually, along comes Trump, the great boasting hope, who is now finding out what he's up against. He's beginning to waver with each passing day. Bend over and grab the ankles, for once again the people have been duped; nothing has changed!
Well, had you been paying attention to the one per... (show quote)


I liked Obama personally and am quite sure he meant well. He may have handled things about as well as they could be handled , considering all the factors we knew and those we didn't . I am not aware that he attempted to wreck havoc with executive orders, but I haven't paid much attention to that.
The rest of what you write seems rational and consistent with the facts as seem to be based on available evidence.

Trump is sounding like bar room braggart and I am surprise he hasn't hurt his back while kissing it.

I am not convinced about all you say but you have said it well and substantiated it well.

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Apr 13, 2017 08:19:16   #
Richard Rowland
 
Glaucon wrote:
I liked Obama personally and am quite sure he meant well. He may have handled things about as well as they could be handled , considering all the factors we knew and those we didn't . I am not aware that he attempted to wreck havoc with executive orders, but I haven't paid much attention to that.
The rest of what you write seems rational and consistent with the facts as seem to be based on available evidence.

Trump is sounding like bar room braggart and I am surprise he hasn't hurt his back while kissing it.

I am not convinced about all you say but you have said it well and substantiated it well.
I liked Obama personally and am quite sure he mean... (show quote)


By wreck havoc, I was thinking of the ACA, and his immigration policies. And, I realize we all have different concepts of Obama's successes and failures. However, I think Obama was blamed for much that he had no control over. Still, if the crew fucks up, the captain takes the heat.

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Apr 13, 2017 09:06:25   #
Fay Guht
 
Glaucon wrote:
How to increase your intelligence:

Intelligence is the habit of questioning everything, but .specially questioning ourselves and the tribes we have joined. liberals and conservatives say they agree that we should all be responsible for ourselves and both groups cling so tightly to the views and talking points that our tribes demand us to cling to. Have you ever seen a self labeled conservative point out anything Obama has done that is good for our country? Have you ever seen a self labeled liberal point out a single thing on which they agree with Trump? Black/white, all or nothing "thinking" makes us stupid and keeps us that way. I will be interested in your agreements or disagreements with this comment.
How to increase your intelligence: br br Intellig... (show quote)


This is interesting. Any type of "tribal" affiliation politically regresses the process.

Ask someone why they are a --------?

Many times they will say, "Well, mom and dad were."

Then ask, "Why do you think they were?"

This is interesting.

Granted, traditions in families are well worth creating and preserving.

But when we don't know why......probably not good.

(Of course, in a free society, we are supposed to be left largely alone to run our own affairs. Government today, and the two party system, are designed to get us to use politicians to steal from us (each other) and then argue how the stolen goods are to be divied up. In the course of this, we end up hating each other over who's getting more of our stolen resources.....and that's just where they want us. (The Griswolds at Christmas, if you will).

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Apr 13, 2017 09:11:09   #
payne1000
 
The most effective way to increase your political intelligence is abstain from any news source which supports the conspiracy theory that 19 Arabs attacked us on 9/11.



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Apr 13, 2017 09:48:33   #
Glaucon
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
By wreck havoc, I was thinking of the ACA, and his immigration policies. And, I realize we all have different concepts of Obama's successes and failures. However, I think Obama was blamed for much that he had no control over. Still, if the crew fucks up, the captain takes the heat.


Obama did some great things and they meant mostly unnoticed. Captain Trump is creating a clusterfuk and he doesn't admit it and doesn't takethe heat.

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Apr 13, 2017 09:50:05   #
Glaucon
 
payne1000 wrote:
The most effective way to increase your political intelligence is abstain from any news source which supports the conspiracy theory that 19 Arabs attacked us on 9/11.


Who do you imaging attacked us on 9/11, Wold Blitzer?

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Apr 13, 2017 09:51:38   #
Glaucon
 
Fay Guht wrote:
This is interesting. Any type of "tribal" affiliation politically regresses the process.

Ask someone why they are a --------?

Many times they will say, "Well, mom and dad were."

Then ask, "Why do you think they were?"

This is interesting.

Granted, traditions in families are well worth creating and preserving.

But when we don't know why......probably not good.

(Of course, in a free society, we are supposed to be left largely alone to run our own affairs. Government today, and the two party system, are designed to get us to use politicians to steal from us (each other) and then argue how the stolen goods are to be divied up. In the course of this, we end up hating each other over who's getting more of our stolen resources.....and that's just where they want us. (The Griswolds at Christmas, if you will).
This is interesting. Any type of "tribal&qu... (show quote)


Interesting comments and well thought out.

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Apr 13, 2017 09:52:59   #
Glaucon
 
pafret wrote:
His alleged birth certificate has been called into question by two Document examiners of impeccable credentials. I pointed out to YOU that you brought up his birth. Your responses are bizarre, what are you smoking or are you plastererd?


No sane person still believes Obama was born anywhere but the good old U.S.A

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