norte

Analysis: Trump proposals would add $5.3 trillion to debt

http://www.times-standard.com/article/zz/20160921/NEWS/160929585

JONDO

Funny, You couldn't add or subtract when your dam Moron Muslim was in thr could you ? Now all of a sudden you blame all this on Trump.We will never get the odor of that B_____d out of the White House.That place is bugged so bad you can hear a pin drop from where ever your standing. And the bug's tracks lead to four blocks down.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

WOW! You mean after Obama added over $10 trillion to the national debt, you want us to condemn President Trump because some projectionists claim that he's going to add only half of what Obama did to the national debt, while these same projectionists were completely wrong about projections of what Obama would add to the national debt, yet you said nothing about condemning Obama for more than doubling the national debt in just 8 years, of which 7 1/2 of those years was during Obama's supposed economic recovery, that it took all our previous Presidents 232 years to acquire? Damn, does this ever prove what a liberal 'HYPOCTITE' you are, and I'm betting that those projections prove just as false as their Obama projections proved, especially since President Trump is now starting to put the USA into a real econimic recovery.

norte

Who said Obama's debt was okay?

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Apparently you, who did not condemn Obama's actual national debt, but are condemning President Trump on projections of things that haven't even been enacted yet, and has to go through the 'House of Representatives', who do the real deciding on what will be enacted, despite what the President says or wants. The problem with Obama's doubling of the national debt is that the Republicans were so scared of being called 'RACISTS', that they gave Obama a "blank check" (continuous resolutions, but no actual budgets), which he used and spent as a drunken sailor would have, not caring to what he was doing to the future economy of the USA, or how debilitating his huge increase (more than doubling a 232 years national debt in just 8 years) in the national debt will end up being for the US dollar. Obama actually did this, but President Trump hasn't done anything yet, but for which are you condemning for someone's projections of what they think, not of what the process of the 'US Congress' will actually do, for now we have a President that will honor and obey the process of living on a budget decided by the 'US Congress', for which the 'Houses of Representatives' will originate and establish?

norte

You know the US has become batshit insane today when:

The answer to endless wars is more wars.

The answer to the police state is more tyranny.

The answer to a dead economy is starting a trade war.

The answer to regulations is more laws.

The answer to endless debt is more debt.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

All of your described insanity has occurred over the last 8 years, especially when the Democrats controlled the House and/or the Senate, but since President Trump has been elected, none of this has been enacted as of yet, but much talk is being bantered around. None of these insanities have been enacted yet, especially to the degree that they were under Obama and the Democrats, and yet I didn't see you complaining about them when Obama was actually enecting them and forced them on the American people, who most wanted them stopped, and is why the Democrats lost over 1,300 political positions in the state and federal governments. Now the American people have put the Republicans in majority in the House and Senate, and made President Trump our President. So we wait with baited and hopeful breath to see what President does and accomplishes, while you denigrate and denounce him for things that haven't happened yet, but just what you think is going to happen, like you thought the American people would make the queen of crime our next President.

Obama and the Democrats took the American people's Creator's endowed unalienable right of their 'Pursuit of Happiness', by usurping their right to choose what is best for themselves, and pursue that choice, instead of what a government elitist decides what is best for them, and forces them to acccept the governments choice over that of their own, which is what the oxymoron law called the 'Affordable Care Act' (Obamacare) does. Something that most people don't want or need, but are being forced to purchase it so those who do want or need it can supposedly purchase it cheaper. Yeah, some think that is the American way, but in truth it is the way of the old USSR, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, and now Venezuela. where the government rules all aspects of the people's lives (through socialism, communism, and fascism), and is coming to the USA thanks to the Democrats, and actually was partially here, but now is being reversed by a GOD sent President, that the Democrats don't believe in (the man and also the GOD who sent him).

Ricko Loc: Florida

Norte-your link is dated Sept 2016-not exactly current. Even if the Trump tax plan temporarily adds to the debt,
I have confidence that, as a businessman, he knows where to invest to make money. Conversely, Hillary's plan was to raise taxes which would have further stifled an already anemic recovery. Once we get our economy humming again it will not take too long to see our deficits reduced, our budget balanced, and we can then start paying down our National Debt. We will never be debt free but we can achieve a manageable balance. You are being overly skeptical. Give us an evaluation of Trump's performance once he has served one year as POTUS. Criticizing what he might do as opposed to what he will actually do is useless. America First !!!

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Right on, but it makes too much sense for liberals, progressives, and Democrats, synonhymous with socialists, communists, and fascists, to accept, especially when it doesn't advance their goals of socialism and communism through the enforcement of fascism. I never thought I'd see the day when the federal government could make the American people purchase something that they didn't want or need, to benefit those who are keeping them in political power, such are the Democrats and their failed Obamacare.

norte

Hating Trump doesn't mean loving Obama.

http://newsherald_com.gm5-dastage.newscyclecloud.com/news/20170105/stossel-trump-years-likely-more-of-same

Having a new boss won't change anything.

No one is going to work when everything is illegal and taxes pay for curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.

The US stock market is a massive Ponzi scheme. There was a time when the stock market was based on reality, but that time is gone.

The stock gains have come from government cash injections and CEO's buying their own companies stocks back using company money to boost share prices and their own personal net worth.

The economy collapsed in 2008 and the government bailed out the bankers instead of arresting them. Nothing has been fixed.

Most people prefer to ignore a hard fact rather than face it.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There was a bubble in 2001 and 2008. Both times there was a crash. Is this time different?

If debt is good, why doesn't the government print and borrow money to send monthly checks for $500,000 to every American?

The lazy are being sent welfare checks.

94 million Americans are jobless.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94031000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-stuck-38-year

Wages are flat. Minimum wages are going up only because of government decrees, not because of real free market growth.

Stocks are high only because of QE and the fantasy belief that the government can keep printing money to bail out companies forever.

Interest rates are low because the Fed is afraid to crash the economy and bankrupt the government with higher rates.

Oil prices are low because no one has any money anymore.

The US economy is a house of cards. A large chunk of the hollowed out US economy is basically just consumer, mortgage, student, and auto loans, government deficit spending, overpriced healthcare, and fast food/retail jobs.

How can anyone say the economy is good when wages are flat, corporate profits are falling, spending is falling, sales are falling, orders are falling, jobless claims are rising, gold is rising, stocks are falling, futures are falling, confidence is falling, net worth is falling, inventories are rising, and negative rates are being considered?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94610000-americans-not-labor-force-participation- rate-lowest-38

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/wage_growth_stagnant_since_200.html

http://www.themonitordaily.com/corporate-profits-fall-as-u-s-economic-growth-slows/21169/

http://www.seattletimes.com/business/us-construction-spending-falls-0-4-percent-in-november/

http://www.toledoblade.com/Retail/2016/04/13/US-retail-sales-fall-in-March-as-Americans-buy-fewer-cars.html

http://www.post-gazette.com/powersource/latest-oil-and-gas/2016/01/28/US-durable-goods-orders-fall-5-1- percent-in-
December/stories/201601280163

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/money/business/2015/03/06/jobless-claims-rise-highest-level-nine-months /24502837/

http://elkodaily.com/mining/gold-rises-above/article_4a5eb51b-ac0c-535c-80be-22c3a79dd6d2.html

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/us-stocks-fall-weak-data-220211387.html

The US is headed for a complete economic collapse, a civil war, and WWIII.

Many people are complacent because their government checks are good now and they still have electricity and running water, but there is no doubt the US economy will collapse one day.

No country can print and borrow their way to wealth. Rome, Germany, Zimbabwe, Japan, and Greece couldn't do it.

The US economy might continue for 2 or 5 or 30 years, but one day the house of cards will crash. The US dollar will be worthless, there will be inflation, deflation, banks will shut, bankruptcies and foreclosures will rise, businesses will close, unemployment will soar, there will be bail-ins, capital controls, negative interest rates, riots, bank runs, bank holidays, and gold may be outlawed. Think 1929, 2008, and Greece all in one.

American jobs have been offshored, illegal immigrants are flooding the country, and the US is bankrupt. The government is punishing hard work with taxes and regulations while rewarding laziness with welfare. The government knows this fraud can't continue forever which is why they're building a police state and trying to start wars with Iran, North Korea, Russia, and China to distract Americans and boost the economy.

The world is now in another bubble and governments realize that they cannot print money forever.

The Fed has no more bullets, but the government has real ones.

Think.

JONDO

Have a little faith in Trump, Its our last chance or step back and let Obama win.

Ricko Loc: Florida

Norte-too much info-last three lines-on target. We have been printing money backed by dead air for too long.
At one time all trade was conducted in US Dollars which was the worlds preferred currency. Ironically, that time
has passed and once the dollar is replaced as the reserve currency, those who are supposedly in the know, say that we will be in deep doo doo unless we get our fiscal house in order. We will have to shut down the printing presses and have to rely on what we produce as opposed to what we can borrow and print. Scary scenario if those good
folks are correct. America First !!!

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Hate is hate, and you apparently hate President Trump, but why, for the only thing he has done that affects you is to beat Hillary Clinton to become our President, and had Hillary Clinton won, all that you claim is bad and has been destroying the USA, would continue at an even faster and greater pace. So that makes me wonder if you're not really a Hillary Clinton and Democratic (socialists, communists, & fascists) supporter, pretending to be the opposite so people will accept and expand on your hatred for the one who beat Hillary Clinton, and has at least delayed your projections of what is going to happen to the USA in the future, if not putting us on a path to stop all those bad things from happening, ever. Most all true conservatives, Christians, and Republicans are pleased with what little President Trump has accomplished in the short time he has been President, but for some reason you do nothing but critisize, denigrate, and denounce him, and I can't figure out why, because he really hasn't had the time to promote and enact any of those things that you have listed that is going to destroy the USA in the future. What is your problem, are you mad and hate the fact that you weren't given the choice you wanted for President, but the majority of the conservatives, Christians, and Republicans got their way instead, so you're mad because you couldn't get your way, but the majority of Americans got their way instead, so your bashing of President Trump is really your temper tantrum for not getting what you wanted, and an insult to the majority of the conservatives, Christians, and Republicans, because they got what they wanted instead?

norte

WTF?

Clinton would have destroyed the US just like Trump is doing.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jim-rogers-warns-trump-and-clinton-will-lead-to-bankruptcy-and-war-183121812.html

Randy131 Loc: Florida

You're right about Clinton, but you have President Trump all wrong, as time will tell and prove, because he hasn't been able to do anything that would result in what you claim, only President for 80 something days, but you refuse to give him a chance to prove himself, because of your hate. Worry about what you can change, and pray for what you can't, and you can't change the blessing that Trump is President, rather than Clinton, and we all should thank GOD for that blessing. Hey stupid, there were only two choices in the general election, and you continually complain that the best choice was achieved, but like a woman you just have to complain about it.