wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

U ,too,have President Trump confused with obammy. Idiot.

Progressive One

nope....stupid ass,......Obama never had ratings as low as trump his whole 8 years as the orangefreakpussygrabber accomplished in his first month...me or the world don't get those two confused...you're a fking moron for even saying some dumbass shit like that!!

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

Dam what a dumbass nigger! Comparing Trump and obammy, u idiot.

Progressive One

no you dumbass dicksucking cracka....your inbred brother from your sister said I had the two confused.....why is it that you pink motherfkers who barely finished high school always say rude shit and have the fking context wrong.....and it "damn" you fking dropout....a "dam" holds water....fking hillbilly yokel...........

Abel

To start with, there isn't much difference between a Republic, which the United States is according to our Constitution, and a democracy. In a Republic, the people own the property, and in a democracy the government owns the property. This may seem to be a trivial point, but it is very important.

In a Republic, the people being able to own property allows, and promotes, an incentive to work hard and better themselves, thus it frees them to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Pursue is a key word here and life, liberty and happiness is not promised! The Constitution limits the government, not the people, so they can become the best they can be. This system promotes growth and prosperity, unless socialism sneaks into the system and the subsequent greed and corruption, usually of a religious nature, begins to fester and grow eventually turning the system into a democratic cesspool of hate and discontent that will cause it to fail. We are now in the failure mode, and will fail if the Communist influence continues much longer. If the system fails it is because of people becoming complacent, lazy, and listening to leaders like Karl Marx, which will destroy the Republic, then the socialist state will eventually fail. The way to prevent this is not to allow socialism to burrow into the Republic, and we need to purge our system of these people immediately.

In a democracy, the government owning all the property demands that people work to provide for government in order that the government be able to provide for the needs for all the people by equally distributing any wealth that may be accumulated. Of course, thinking of equality of distribution, those who control the government, the elites, are permitted to live a better lifestyle than the common workers, which are the backbone of a government tyranny. This system provides no incentive among the commoners to work any harder than they are required by the government to do, and be content with whatever the government elites provide them to sustain their existence and keep them healthy enough to work and happy enough to keep them content enough that they don't feel a need to revolt. Those commoners who object simply and mysteriously disappear. As those who object disappear more and more frequently, there is the tendency to reduce the number of workers who work, and eventually they run out of wealth (the workers are their real sustaining wealth) and the system, no longer able to sustain itself because the elites don't know how to work to survive (working is beneath them), the socialistic system fails. There is no way to prevent socialism from eventual failure. They become hungry, then greedy, then violently attack each other just in order to survive.

Whereas the word "democracy" never appears in the Founding Documents of the United States of America, because the Founding Fathers realized how dangerous democracy could become, it is not a word we should use to describe the United States of America, our Sovereign Republic. Democracy not ever appearing in the Founding Documents negates the validity the democratic party and all it stands for, or against, and a professed democrat, a Communist at heart, should be the absolute LAST person our conservative leaders should EVER listen to for advise about how to run our Republic! Like it or not you Communists, the United States Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Amendments numbered greater than 10, ARE THE LAW OF THE LAND here in the United States of America, and if you object to this you should relocate to some other American country south of the USA, or maybe even Europe or the Middle East, where you might be more comfortable. In other words, GTF out, and take your socialist idiotology with you.

If I were a praying man, I would pray that President Trump doesn't start listening to the denizens of the swamp he has promised to drain, the RINOs and the Communist Establishment, and screw up his term(s) and our country! Y'all have a nice day now, ya hear!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

slow down "LIPS" you'll get the mouth speed wobbles.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Project much?

Republic vs Democracy

Progressive One

the only lips is on your vagina......

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

LMAO!!!!!! Even being a southern boy I hadn't heard that one.

Progressive One

No more Confederates:

A lost cause for the Bundy rebels
We will not give up our public lands : not to contemporary robber barons or desperadoes.
TRIALS relating to the armed standoffs precipitated by Cliven Bundy and his sons have begun in Nevada. The mix of charges could put them in prison for the rest of their lives. (Rob Kerr AFP/Getty Images)
By Rick Bass
M ost people in the West understand that when we behold the horizon, when we walk toward it, what we see and the land we walk on often belongs to all of us. A majority of Westerners want to keep public land public, and so do most Easterners, Southerners and Midwesterners. But that fact hasn’t prevented a decades-long howling war against federal lands in the West, and it doesn’t reap the kind of headlines commanded by the long guns, big hats and cockamamie ideas of those who think the land is theirs, not ours.
I sometimes worry that the bad manners, and bad ideas, of people like Cliven Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan and their followers are getting normalized, or at least romanticized. These self-styled patriots counter-factually believe that land acquired by the United States well before most Western states existed must nonetheless be controlled by those states, or better yet, by themselves. (Native Americans, the original inhabitants, don’t figure in these fantasies.)
In Nevada, on Bureau of Land Management land northwest of Las Vegas, and at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon, the Bundys and hundreds of their followers precipitated armed standoffs with federal authorities to make their point. In both cases, some among them pointed guns at law enforcement, who chose not to contest the situations in the moment.
Now 17 of the Nevada “freedom fighters” — including the Bundys — will be prosecuted in three separate trials, the first of which is underway in Las Vegas. Prosecutions related to the Malheur takeover are over and done in Oregon — Ammon, Ryan and five other government-accused ringleaders were acquitted there, while four of their followers were found guilty. In the Nevada trials, the mix of charges — conspiracy, weapons, assault and other felonies — could put Cliven, his sons and others in prison for the rest of their lives.
I grew up in John Wayne’s Texas in the 1950s and ’60s, and it damn sure wasn’t normal to point guns at anyone, unless you were 6 years old and armed with a cap pistol. Now I live in Montana, where the same rules apply. I do not understand the arms brandishing the Bundys et al indulge in. It got one occupier killed at Malheur: Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, finally pursued to a roadblock, jumped out, reached for a loaded gun and was shot dead by state police. Pointing weapons at law enforcement communicates a new threshold of unaccountability, the cinematic mythos that a pistolero threatening violence equals kinghood.
As a taxpayer it is not lost on me that Cliven Bundy is allegedly in arrears of more than a million dollars in Bureau of Land Management grazing fees, fees that are already heavily subsidized by the rest of us. The Malheur standoff cost the government — taxpayers again — roughly $9 million, and the Nevada shenanigans and trials surely add hundreds of thousands more to that total.
Of course, those brought up on charges in Nevada and Oregon aren’t alone in trying to disassemble our public lands. A stubborn minority led by the Republican Party agree with the Bundys’ goal — privatization — if not their tactics. Abetted by President Trump, these people chafe at “Washington control” and claim that public lands like the just-designated Bears Ears National Monument, in Utah, represent outrageous government overreach, not to mention a drag on the regional economy. When they talk about local control, though, they really mean transferring pubic assets to their friends in big business — oil, gas, copper, coal and timber.
Back in the 1980s, President Reagan and his secretary of the Interior, James Watt, tried to privatize Western federal lands, but the Sagebrush Rebellion was beaten back by the hunting and fishing lobby (Reagan voters, by the way). In January, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) introduced a bill to allow the sale of 3.3 million acres of public lands. He was inundated with protests from his constituents — a new generation of anglers and hunters. Chaffetz quickly withdrew his bill.
I think I understand the Bundys. They are being goaded and used, easily agitated by the politics of big business that seeks to liquidate the last of the American wilderness. If the politicians and the pundits who want Washington to leave the West alone were truly interested in economics rather than cronyism, why not end subsidized grazing fees, or below-cost timber sales in places like Alaska’s Tongass National Forest? Why not erase the 1872 General Mining Law, which gives away public land to international mining companies?
It’s possible that in the Nevada trials, the Bundys will once again evade the law and win acquittal. But in the end, theirs is a lost cause. We regular peace-loving, rule-abiding citizens will not give up our public lands to anyone: not to armed desperadoes, not to contemporary robber barons, and not to the states, which can’t afford their upkeep.
These lands are our outdoor churches, our cathedrals — and keeping them that way is the real economic foundation of the West. Open spaces attract new, high-paying industries and yield billions of dollars in tourism and recreation. When we are young, we hunt, hike, fish, camp, backpack, paddle, horseback ride, walk, run, raft and bicycle on our shared lands, and when we are old we stare out at their undiminished beauty.
The great Wallace Stegner wrote in 1960 that it is the American wilderness that forms our national character, separate and distinct from that of other nations. That character, like the wilderness, is under pressure, weakening at the seams, as news reports tell us every day. In heated times like these I find myself much in need of going for a walk — a long walk, on my American land.
Rick Bass is writer in residence at Montana State University. His latest book is the short story collection “For a Little While.”