You Can't Be Catholic & a Democrat
Apr 1, 2017 11:52:16 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
The Democratic Party is for abortion as a personal right. Therefore, you can't be Catholic & a Democrat.
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Personal Right? God Commands us "Thou Shall Not kill"
Therefore Democrats are not Christians. They kill!
Hypocrite Pelosi and Biden claim to be Christians. But all they protect, defend, and stand for, are against the teachings of Christ.
That is why Pelosi and Biden and the rests of the democrats who claim to be Christians, but instead defend and protect Mohammedanism because Mohammedans kill all Christians and infidels.
Apr 1, 2017 11:52:35 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
It makes them sinners. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't regard yourself as a sinner. Liberals are all perfect.
I see. So what, exactly, is my political position?
Apr 1, 2017 12:05:24 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
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Thank You crazylibertarin!!!
Apr 1, 2017 12:32:10 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Larry the Legend wrote:
I see. So what, exactly, is my political position?
Like myself, you're in the Florida panhandle, so you can't be a sinner..........I'll have to give this some more thought.
Apr 1, 2017 13:28:35 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
Larry the Legend wrote:
I see. So what, exactly, is my political position?
You tell me. That's not the issue. If you're a Democrat, as I wrote, then you supprt abortion rights so you can't be Catholic. Others here extend that to Christian & I agree.
Apr 1, 2017 14:06:14 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
You tell me. That's not the issue. If you're a Democrat, as I wrote, then you supprt abortion rights so you can't be Catholic. Others here extend that to Christian & I agree.
It wasn't the issue until you made it the issue. You cast aspersions on my political opinions. You seem to think you know something about me that I apparently do not. So why don't you tell me, what exactly is my position on the abortion question? What do I think about Democrats being Catholics? Well? Am I a snivelling socialist or a raving capitalist, or do I dodder someplace in between? I want you to tell me what my opinions are, since you say you know so much.
Apr 1, 2017 14:19:17 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
The Catholic church also frowns on birth control. Does that mean that there are millions of Catholics who ignore their church's teaching? Does this make all Democrat Catholics (gasp) apostates?
Any rules imposed by a "Christian" church, not in the Bible, are the constructs of man, not God. They were likely put in place due to some
Political imperative. Birth control is not mentioned in the Bible, except for a few guys spilling their seed, forget who. Why would common
sense applied to family planning be a sin. God leaves that choice and responsibility to us. The respnsibilty is also ours if we do concieve.
You cannot just erase life, because it is inconvenient. Life and death are Gods call.
Apr 1, 2017 14:36:39 #
padremike wrote:
Larry, until 1928 all Christian denominations deno... (show quote)
You know muslims are using the same tactic now, having as many children as possible to promote the takeover. Back in the day when most children died before the age of two, the Catholic church pushed this to build larger congregations, more money in the cfffers, more power.. . Doesnt work so well now. And most Catholics are the Easter Christmas variety. I am not a pillar of any church, so I dont mean this in a judge mental manner, just as I see it. Murder remains a totally different matter.
Apr 1, 2017 14:42:08 #
out of the woods wrote:
You cannot just erase life, because it is inconvenient. Life and death are Gods call.
OK, let me play Devil's advocate for a minute. If it is a given that life and death are 'God's call', then why are we empowered to make such decisions? Just consider that for a second. We do have the ability to make life and death decisions over many aspects of worldly existence, including the unborn. Also, if abortion is the sinful equivalent of murder, then why are so many people perfectly happy with the idea or contraception? After all, contraception is just another method of preventing the birth of a child, is it not?
I'm not advocating for anything here, simply pointing out that we do not have all of the answers and most likely have not even considered all of the questions this topic raises. If you'd like to know how Iv feel about abortion, read this:
https://www.nolanchart.com/article447-to-kill-or-not-to-kill-that-is-the-question-html
I wrote that nearly 10 years ago and still would not change a word of it.
Apr 1, 2017 14:57:15 #
padremike wrote:
Larry, until 1928 all Christian denominations deno... (show quote)
Oh, my! Ordaining women, making women bishops, openly advocating birth control, homosexuality and homosexual marriage, abortion... Yes, I must agree; that is quite a paradox. What do you suppose the Big Guy says to them when they come rolling up to them there Pearly Gates (if they even get that far)?
Apr 1, 2017 16:13:21 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
OK, let me play Devil's advocate for a minute. If... (show quote)
Contraception, prevents conception, abortion ends a life that has already begun.
Apr 1, 2017 16:15:59 #
padremike
Loc: Phenix City, Al
Larry the Legend wrote:
Oh, my! Ordaining women, making women bishops, openly advocating birth control, homosexuality and homosexual marriage, abortion... Yes, I must agree; that is quite a paradox. What do you suppose the Big Guy says to them when they come rolling up to them there Pearly Gates (if they even get that far)?
I don't believe they'll make it that far unless they seek forgiveness and absolution before they die. If they do, the "pearly gates" are as wide open to them as they are to those who have lived their lives as saints. Surprisingly, the one's most "irrigated" by that truth are some Christians who worked in the vineyard, in the heat of the sun all day.
Apr 1, 2017 18:41:55 #
padremike wrote:
I don't believe they'll make it that far unless they seek forgiveness and absolution before they die. If they do, the "pearly gates" are as wide open to them as they are to those who have lived their lives as saints. Surprisingly, the one's most "irrigated" by that truth are some Christians who worked in the vineyard, in the heat of the sun all day.
"Irrigated". I see what you did....
Apr 1, 2017 18:58:15 #
padremike wrote:
I don't believe they'll make it that far unless they seek forgiveness and absolution before they die. If they do, the "pearly gates" are as wide open to them as they are to those who have lived their lives as saints. Surprisingly, the one's most "irrigated" by that truth are some Christians who worked in the vineyard, in the heat of the sun all day.
I know the parable. The master pays the new workers the same amount, even though they only worked for the latter part of the day.
Remember faith is a gift not all are given.
Apr 1, 2017 19:15:18 #
out of the woods wrote:
Contraception, prevents conception, abortion ends a life that has already begun.
I see. You draw a distinction between preventing a life and ending one. That's not a very big distinction in my mind.
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