cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

This is not over yet by a long shot. Government has no business in private enterprise but government has business in helping people so sick that they would put private enterprise out of business. This garbage ACA will go down into hell where it came from.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I'm going to toss this out without a lot of forethought. St Luke's Children hospital, the Shriners hospitals for children, and other institutions operate on grants and individual donations. Americans are the most generous people on earth. We rebel at the government forcing mandatory redistribution of our earnings. I wonder how generous we would be to donate of our own free will to a managed pool to assist those with pre-existing conditions and other situations to reduce risk and cost to normal health policies? And to help lower the national debt and get the government involved less in health care. The money we donate would be tax deductible.

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

Are you doing marijuana for medicinal purposes or strictly recreational purposes?

Harpooner1

Bruce, are you trying to make sense?

Because I can't make sense out of your posts. To try to get to where your coming from.....

What do you think is good for the economy of the United States?
What do you think is good for the social structure of United states?

Two questions......

You can answer succinctly, or verbose.......

The devil is always in the details.....

Big Bass

Hey, everybody! Here's a link that defines liberals. Please copy it and use it "liberally."
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/Articles/Liberals.htm

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Great find and you nailed it. I want to laugh out loud when today's liberal, AKA democrat/progressive/Marxist try to tell us our founders were liberals. They were "classical liberals" diametrically opposite of today's liberal. Liberals have applied C.S. Lewis' coined word, "verbicide", to the meaning of liberal inasmuch as they killed the original meaning and substituted the opposite meaning in its stead. From Democrat to liberal to Progressive: One should consider why it is necessary to continuously redefine who/what you are. "You shall know them by their fruits."

Big Bass

Bingo! They have also committed verbicide on democracy.( I love that word!) The original liberals in the UK were the whigs, and they sat politically, between the Tories and Labour, or the socialists. Now, they are so far left they can see themselves coming from the opposite direction. These were the loonies (USSR) we were fighting during the Cold War. Time has not made them any more palatable.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

What a great depiction of the moonbats here on this forum. I have yet to see any exception

Bevos

Bevos

GOOD READ!!! And it NAILS the PROBLEMS with LIBERALS COMPLETELY!!! Can't get much more THOROUGH than that!!!

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

You know this is not uncommon for Trump followers, they usually can't make sense of anything. They live in "Alternative" universes. Because they lie so much it is extremely difficult to make sense of truth and facts.

What is good for the economy of the United States is an extremely complicated question. The question is conditional and very vague. What do you mean "good for the economy"? The economy of the poor, the economy of the middle class or the economy of the rich? There are many things that are extremely good for Big Business and Industry that are detrimental to the poor and middle classes. The auto industry, the oil industry, the pharmaceutical industry and other industries can be doing terrific but the over all economy of the working class can be worthless. We see this in today's U.S. economy, Wall Street is doing great, even under President Obama's time in office, but the middle class is shrinking and the poor class is increasing. As an example, You can do things to improve the economy of the pharmaceutical industry yet it would be devastating to the poor and middle classes. Am I suppose to think the U.S. economy is doing well when U.S. industries are making profits hand over fist, and the general public are on food stamps? So to your question "What do I think is good for the U.S. economy?", my response is...whose economy are you talking about?

As a side note let me address one aspect of the economy that I feel is detrimental to the overall U.S. economy. And that is out sourcing. I'm sure you have your opinion, but imo the reason the U.S. is or was losing jobs, to other countries, is primarily because of labor costs. There are many factors that go into out sourcing, but I feel the prime motivator for corporations relocating, to other countries, is the cost of labor. I don't believe that the U.S. corporate tax structure is the primary reason corporations started out sourcing, and I don't believe that lowering tax rates will solve the problem. I'm not saying corporations wouldn't welcome lower tax rates, because anything that increases their profit share is always welcome, but U.S. labor is way too expensive for them. In my opinion this is one reason Republicans and Conservatives oppose raising the minimum wage. Which goes back to your question, if you paid the American worker the same wages that you pay workers in any third world country that these corporations have moved to, then I believe corporations would return their operations, to the U.S. And while this may be good for U.S. corporations, I believe it would be devastating for the American worker. For me it is simple, I simply don't trust Big Business to do the right thing when it comes to the overall well being of its labor force. I trust Big Business to do what is best for Big Business and maximize their profits, but left unchecked I don't believe corporations will give much, if any regard to the well being, of the American worker. I believe Corporations view the work force as nothing more than chattel.

Now as for what do I think is good for the social structure of the U.S., although this too is a complicated question, I will offer a simple answer. What is good for the social structure, of the U.S., is an economy that ensures that the majority of Americans have jobs and not just jobs, but GOOD paying jobs. To explain why there will never be 100% full employment, in any society, is to explain the obvious. Minimizing the poor class is essential for a healthy society. To define what is good for the social structure, of a society is simple, but to achieve a sound and stable social structure is difficult and complex.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

No such luck here. I'm not worthy!!!

Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas

Here is a typical Conservative accusation. A typical blonde headed Conservative bimbo, named Kayleigh McEnany, made a claim, on Fox News, that President Barack Obama was upset at the beheading of Daniel Pearl, but that after reporting how upset he was he immediately ran off and played golf. She was upset at Barack Obama's seemingly callousness. The problem is that Daniel Stern was murdered in 2002 and Barack Obama was a State Senator, at the time.

PeterS

Damn Bruce. Keep talking like that and you will wind up on someone's ignore list. I'm ignored by so many conservatives that it's hard to keep track. I've got one on my ignore list, Wolf counselor. There are a lot of fuked up conservatives on this board but I have yet to see him add anything positive to a topic yet. If ever he does I might take him off but until then it's nice not to have to listen to him, at least on my own thread.

Anyway, keep busting their chops. They elected without question the biggest joke to ever hold the office. Hell, his own wife is too embarrassed to share the same house with him. Can't blame her though I do wish Trump would pay for her upkeep. I mean she's his problem not ours...

PeterS

Typical fuking conservative--the use of affirmation over confirmation--do you think the more thumbs up you list the more correct he is?