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Mar 25, 2017 22:54:29   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Progressive One wrote:
so what do you have to say about your colleague talking about sucking off truck drivers....is his soul to be condemned also or does he have the "whiteness exemption clause" where he can do whatever in the fk he wants and it is okay because he's w---e?


Hey ,cool breeze.. I'll quit if you will.but if that doesn't work for you..Then let's call name's.
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I don't suffer a racist fool for long.

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Mar 25, 2017 22:57:15   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Progressive One wrote:
so what do you have to say about your colleague talking about sucking off truck drivers....is his soul to be condemned also or does he have the "whiteness exemption clause" where he can do whatever in the fk he wants and it is okay because he's w---e?


You mean ‘peccatum illud horribile, inter christianos non nominandum’? Do you notice there is no prohibition on prostitution in the Bible?

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Mar 25, 2017 23:04:01   #
Progressive One
 
byronglimish wrote:
Thanks,I spot your errors too
I really get a kick out of your attempt to argue with anyone..But let me remind you that you always start the nasty talk when any white man challenges your deceptive analysis of any political issue.
There is no way you're as educated as you claim. Maybe the hater you are is from being too stupid to see yourself.


Please let me know....especially if i use the wrong word altogether.....don't let me remain ignorant and comfortable with it at the same time..do me a huge favor and bring it to my attention....humility comes with being truly educated...........

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Mar 25, 2017 23:05:22   #
Progressive One
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
You mean ‘peccatum illud horribile, inter christianos non nominandum’? Do you notice there is no prohibition on prostitution in the Bible?


okay fk it...anything goes...we're ALL going to heaven.WOO HAH!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 25, 2017 23:08:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Progressive One wrote:
Please let me know....especially if i use the wrong word altogether.....don't let me remain ignorant and comfortable with it at the same time..do me a huge favor and bring it to my attention....humility comes with being truly educated...........


The most intelligent people,are not always the most academic.

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Mar 25, 2017 23:10:01   #
Progressive One
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Aaaaand.... There you go again. See, you even call me a racist for using a Biblical context when referring to sinful behavior. This is why we will never have a civil discourse between us. You're apparently incapable of it. You're so stuck on being black that you cannot see past my 'white privilege' (whatever the hell that is, I don't much feel 'privileged').

Anyway, yeah, you look at it any way you like, you're a free man in the land of the free. If you think you need to be a good slave to get into heaven then you go right ahead and think that way. As far as I can see, no-one is trying to enslave you right now but that's your prerogative if you want to be enslaved, you go right ahead. Just leave me out of it.
Aaaaand.... There you go again. See, you even ca... (show quote)


read behavioral science material and you'll see where i'm coming from.....too much to explain............the power of suggestion...the 48 Laws of Power.....read that also.........

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Mar 25, 2017 23:11:12   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Progressive One wrote:
okay fk it...anything goes...we're ALL going to heaven.WOO HAH!!!!!!!!!


You are truly the dumbest human being I have ever met ..

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Mar 25, 2017 23:14:49   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Progressive One wrote:
okay fk it...anything goes...we're ALL going to heaven.WOO HAH!!!!!!!!!


Well, all except you, because you called Jesus a whitey. He gonna make you pay for that little slip. Not only that, if Jesus is a whitey, then God must be whitey too, because he Jesus' Daddy and all. Uh-oh, now you done got to the wrong side of the Big Guy. Now you really gonna get big spankin'!

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Mar 25, 2017 23:16:45   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
reconreb wrote:
You are truly the dumbest human being I have ever met ..


You know, I was wondering about that. If it was just me or if there were others who could see it too. Nice to know I'm not alone...

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Mar 25, 2017 23:17:55   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Loki wrote:
They were too busy trying to show who's boss.



That may very well be the case.

I think Trump knew the bill would fail, using strategy that will benifit his tax plan. Having more time to structure a "real" non-government healthcare based on free market.
I would be surprised if he didn't push the passage of free interstate commerce, before pushing a new version (not Obamacare-lite) of healthcare for America.

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Mar 25, 2017 23:19:07   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
reconreb wrote:
You are truly the dumbest human being I have ever met ..





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Mar 25, 2017 23:21:19   #
Progressive One
 
byronglimish wrote:
The most intelligent people,are not always the most academic.


That remains to be seen...Gates,Hawkings, GW Carver, Eienstein....academia helps you do the math higher-order math to me was my only academic challenge...to me that set the stage for anything else requiring less effort to learn....math beyond calculus(differential equations) is a whole different realm.....you even feel different while interpreting and calculating........some different cerebral activity type of shit.......

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Mar 25, 2017 23:34:50   #
Progressive One
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Well, all except you, because you called Jesus a whitey. He gonna make you pay for that little slip. Not only that, if Jesus is a whitey, then God must be whitey too, because he Jesus' Daddy and all. Uh-oh, now you done got to the wrong side of the Big Guy. Now you really gonna get big spankin'!


Hey that is what Is posted on the wall when you were a little Black Boy in America so what is a kid supposed to think until he grows up and the truly theological types show you the copper thing/wool hair excerpts. Conservative whites do not even understand the different social realities of black people and really don't care...just be useful and don't complain about nothing is the mantra we should follow in order to be a Ann Coulter "Better Black"..almost sound like chattel slavery...........

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Mar 25, 2017 23:40:32   #
Progressive One
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Well, all except you, because you called Jesus a whitey. He gonna make you pay for that little slip. Not only that, if Jesus is a whitey, then God must be whitey too, because he Jesus' Daddy and all. Uh-oh, now you done got to the wrong side of the Big Guy. Now you really gonna get big spankin'!


Tell Jesus to fix this if you believe in spiritual solutions to worldly problems :

For whites without college degrees, ‘a sea of despair’
This group of Americans has been dying at a faster rate
By Matt Pearce
In 2015, a pair of economists received widespread attention for their study showing that since the late 1990s the death rate has been rising for middle-aged white Americans.
Now a new analysis by the same Princeton University team has identified which part of that population was driving that trend: people without college degrees.
White men and women in every age group between 25 and 64 who did not have college degrees saw their mortality rates increase between 1998 and 2015. Those with degrees saw their mortality rates decrease.
“There are two Americas,” said Anne Case, who conducted the research with her husband, Angus Deaton, a Nobel laureate. “There’s an America for people who have gotten a college degree, and an America for people who have not gotten a college degree. And if you had a checklist of well-being, the people without college degrees are getting worse and worse, and people with college degrees are doing very well.”
The analysis, published Thursday in the Brookings Papers on Economic Activity, found that the problem appears to be distinctly American.
In Europe, mortality rates for people with low levels of education are falling more rapidly than for those with more education.
In every age group the researchers examined, white Americans with a high school education or less now fare worse than blacks as a whole — a reversal of the situation in 1999.
Blacks and Latinos have seen steady improvement in mortality rates as whites without college degrees have been going in the other direction as a result of drug overdoses, alcoholism and suicide and a recent halt in a decline in deaths due to heart disease. The nation’s opioid abuse epidemic played a major role.
But the authors said an underlying culprit is the widespread erosion of institutions that provided stability in American life for much of the 20th century: the manufacturing industry, the church, unions and stable marriage.
“A long-term process of decline … began for those leaving high school and entering the labor force after the early 1970s,” and “traditional structures of social and economic support slowly weakened,” the authors wrote.
“These changes left people with less structure when they came to choose their careers, their religion, and the nature of their family lives,” they wrote. “When such choices succeed, they are liberating; when they fail, the individual can only hold him or herself responsible.”
The result, the authors conclude, is a “recipe for suicide,” adding that other risks include alcohol abuse, drug use and overeating.
The authors touch on themes of working-class white disenfranchisement that became a major undercurrent in the 2016 presidential campaign and turned “Hillbilly Elegy,” a book by J.D. Vance about hope and hopelessness within rural America , into a bestseller.
The book focused on Appalachia, but Case says the problem stretches all over America, not just in rural areas, and may explain why voters were so interested in political outsiders like Donald Trump on the right and Bernie Sanders on the left.
“There’s just a sea of despair; there’s an enormous amount of pain,” she said, describing “wages that don’t rise with experience” and “an inability to create and keep stable marriages” among working-class whites. “There’s a lot of lack of structure in people’s lives that give balance and meaning.”
Case said the situation may continue to worsen. “People just entering the labor market now without a college degree are getting hammered even more,” she said. And older whites won’t see comprehensive government relief in retirement, Case said.
“Social security is not going to magically wave its wand and make you whole again,” Case said.
matt.pearce@latimes.com
Twitter: @mattdpearce

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Mar 25, 2017 23:47:20   #
Progressive One
 
Classism: When I taught political science...students who told me they grew up In Santa Monica (home to my boys Huey Lewis and the News) said they were call white trash by kids from Malibu, and it costs a fking fortune to live in Santa Monica.

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The median sales price for homes in Santa Monica for Dec 23 to Mar 22 was $1,356,000 based on 95 home sales. Price Per Square Ft.
Average price per square foot for Santa Monica was $949, an increase of 7% compared to the same period last year.

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With allies like Malibu ...
A SURFER gets out of the water at Surfrider Beach in Malibu, which last week became a “sanctuary city.” (Luis Sinco Los Angeles Times)
Los Angeles resident David Goodwin bemoans an elite mentality:
Malibu resident Mikke Pierson perfectly displayed a Hollywood-elite kind of mentality in supporting the decision of Malibu to become a sanctuary city. He was quoted as saying, “We would be paralyzed and no one’s houses would be cleaned.”
There are a wide range of views on this issue. Crime, justice, respect for the law, the needs of innocent children, splitting up families, the cost of medical care for indigents — all of these factor into this complex issue. But only a Malibu resident would wonder who would clean his house.
And Hollywood wonders why people have contempt for the elite. And, yes, if this is your big concern, you are in the elite.
Chris Peterson of Valencia says immigrants do more than domestic work:
I realize Pierson meant well when he said, “We would be paralyzed and no one’s houses would be cleaned.”
But really? Is this how he sees immigrants? These people are not just housekeepers; they are also professionals, including doctors, lawyers, teachers, nurses and architects.
I’m an third-generation Korean American who happened to marry someone who was a second-generation American of Irish and Swedish descent. My deceased husband would have been appalled reading those words.
Orrin Turbow of Oxnard recommends better pay for workers:
If the people of Malibu who support their sanctuary status really care about the undocumented, they would pay them what a U.S. citizen would earn doing comparable work.
One member of the City Council said, “Our city depends on a Hispanic population to support our comfortable lifestyle. Do we not owe them what comfort and protections that are possible?”
What they really owe the workers is a fair market wage.
Hawthorne resident Richard Wilson suggests another way Malibu can support workers:
Show your solidarity, Malibu, by building low-income housing for the legal and illegal workers so they don’t have to commute two hours to clean your houses.

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