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Mar 21, 2017 18:07:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
Well the presidency of our bumbling fumbling pumpkin head of a president just keeps rolling along with the revelation yesterday that not only was Hillary under FBI scrutiny but so was pumpkin head and the twist is the he is still being investigated today. Whew!! Seem we should have been chanting "lock him up" too. You know, the thing is FBI investigations are carried out under the table. So Trump could have been investigated and if nothing had been found we never would have known about this but seems ole pumpkin head had to create a crisis by accusing our former president of wiretapping him and then, to double down, when our intelligence agencies couldn't be accused he accused our greatest allies of doing the tapping for Obama instead. And this would have been bad enough but Pumpkin head fans were repeating the lies with him. Come on people, some common sense please.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, took the extraordinary step on Monday of announcing that the agency is investigating whether members of President Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

Mr. Comey’s testimony before the House Intelligence Committee created a treacherous political moment for Mr. Trump, who has insisted that “Russia is fake news” that was cooked up by his political opponents to undermine his presidency. Mr. Comey placed a criminal investigation at the doorstep of the White House and said officers would pursue it “no matter how long that takes.”

Joined by Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, Mr. Comey also dismissed Mr. Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor during the campaign, a sensational accusation that has served as a distraction in the public debate over Russian election interference. Taken together, the two provided the most definitive statement yet that Mr. Trump’s accusation was false.

The New York Times and other news organizations have reported the existence of the investigation into the Trump campaign and its relationship with Russia, but the White House dismissed those reports as politically motivated and rallied political allies to rebut them. Mr. Comey’s testimony on Monday was the first public acknowledgment of the case. The F.B.I. discloses its investigations only in rare circumstances, when officials believe it is in the public interest.

“This is one of those circumstances,” Mr. Comey said.

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was “investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”

Counterintelligence investigations are among the F.B.I.’s most difficult and time-consuming cases, meaning an investigation could hang over the Trump administration for years even though such inquiries rarely lead to criminal charges.

Trump and the Russians: Links? No Links? Depends On Whom You Ask
James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., said the agency was investigating whether members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Republicans and Democrats put their own spin on his statements. By SHANE O’NEILL and SUSAN JOAN ARCHER. Photo by Eric Thayer for The New York Times.

American intelligence agencies concluded in January that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia personally ordered a covert effort to hurt Hillary Clinton’s chances and aid Mr. Trump. That included hacking political targets, including the Democratic National Committee, and releasing embarrassing emails through the website WikiLeaks.

The White House dismissed most of Mr. Comey’s testimony, saying there was no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia and so there was nothing to investigate. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, said the more pressing issue was who disclosed classified information about Mr. Trump’s advisers to journalists, suggesting that they might have been former members of the Obama administration.

American officials have said that they have so far found no proof of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but current and former officials say they have uncovered evidence that Mr. Trump’s associates were in repeated contact with Russian officials — including people linked to Russian intelligence.

Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime adviser to Mr. Trump, has acknowledged communicating with Guccifer 2.0, an online persona believed to be a front for Russian intelligence officials involved in disseminating hacked Democratic emails. Mr. Stone has denied that there was anything improper about the contact, and he was one of many, including political operatives and journalists, to communicate with the hackers.

Last July, the month that WikiLeaks began releasing the hacked emails, Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump, visited Moscow for a speaking engagement. Mr. Page has declined to say whom he met there, but he has said they were mostly scholars.

Michael T. Flynn, a Trump campaign adviser who went on to be his national security adviser, was paid more than $65,000 by companies linked to Russia in 2015, including an American branch of a cybersecurity firm believed to have connections to Russia’s intelligence services, according to congressional investigators. Mr. Flynn was forced to resign after misrepresenting his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the United States.
Well the presidency of our bumbling fumbling pumpk... (show quote)


Why did you forget about BOs wiretapping allegations???? And don't come back saying they are false or are finished with that investigstion...

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Mar 21, 2017 18:09:40   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
desparado wrote:
Lock him up


Lock who up ?? Welcome and try to use quote reply we need to know if your out in the line shack talking to the cattle or someone here

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Mar 22, 2017 05:35:19   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Well the presidency of our bumbling fumbling pumpkin head of a president just keeps rolling along with the revelation yesterday that not only was Hillary under FBI scrutiny but so was pumpkin head and the twist is the he is still being investigated today. Whew!! Seem we should have been chanting "lock him up" too. You know, the thing is FBI investigations are carried out under the table. So Trump could have been investigated and if nothing had been found we never would have known about this but seems ole pumpkin head had to create a crisis by accusing our former president of wiretapping him and then, to double down, when our intelligence agencies couldn't be accused he accused our greatest allies of doing the tapping for Obama instead. And this would have been bad enough but Pumpkin head fans were repeating the lies with him. Come on people, some common sense please.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, took the extraordinary step on Monday of announcing that the agency is investigating whether members of President Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

Mr. Comey’s testimony before the House Intelligence Committee created a treacherous political moment for Mr. Trump, who has insisted that “Russia is fake news” that was cooked up by his political opponents to undermine his presidency. Mr. Comey placed a criminal investigation at the doorstep of the White House and said officers would pursue it “no matter how long that takes.”

Joined by Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, Mr. Comey also dismissed Mr. Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor during the campaign, a sensational accusation that has served as a distraction in the public debate over Russian election interference. Taken together, the two provided the most definitive statement yet that Mr. Trump’s accusation was false.

The New York Times and other news organizations have reported the existence of the investigation into the Trump campaign and its relationship with Russia, but the White House dismissed those reports as politically motivated and rallied political allies to rebut them. Mr. Comey’s testimony on Monday was the first public acknowledgment of the case. The F.B.I. discloses its investigations only in rare circumstances, when officials believe it is in the public interest.

“This is one of those circumstances,” Mr. Comey said.

Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was “investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”

Counterintelligence investigations are among the F.B.I.’s most difficult and time-consuming cases, meaning an investigation could hang over the Trump administration for years even though such inquiries rarely lead to criminal charges.

Trump and the Russians: Links? No Links? Depends On Whom You Ask
James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., said the agency was investigating whether members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Republicans and Democrats put their own spin on his statements. By SHANE O’NEILL and SUSAN JOAN ARCHER. Photo by Eric Thayer for The New York Times.

American intelligence agencies concluded in January that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia personally ordered a covert effort to hurt Hillary Clinton’s chances and aid Mr. Trump. That included hacking political targets, including the Democratic National Committee, and releasing embarrassing emails through the website WikiLeaks.

The White House dismissed most of Mr. Comey’s testimony, saying there was no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia and so there was nothing to investigate. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, said the more pressing issue was who disclosed classified information about Mr. Trump’s advisers to journalists, suggesting that they might have been former members of the Obama administration.

American officials have said that they have so far found no proof of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but current and former officials say they have uncovered evidence that Mr. Trump’s associates were in repeated contact with Russian officials — including people linked to Russian intelligence.

Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime adviser to Mr. Trump, has acknowledged communicating with Guccifer 2.0, an online persona believed to be a front for Russian intelligence officials involved in disseminating hacked Democratic emails. Mr. Stone has denied that there was anything improper about the contact, and he was one of many, including political operatives and journalists, to communicate with the hackers.

Last July, the month that WikiLeaks began releasing the hacked emails, Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to Mr. Trump, visited Moscow for a speaking engagement. Mr. Page has declined to say whom he met there, but he has said they were mostly scholars.

Michael T. Flynn, a Trump campaign adviser who went on to be his national security adviser, was paid more than $65,000 by companies linked to Russia in 2015, including an American branch of a cybersecurity firm believed to have connections to Russia’s intelligence services, according to congressional investigators. Mr. Flynn was forced to resign after misrepresenting his conversations with the Russian ambassador to the United States.
Well the presidency of our bumbling fumbling pumpk... (show quote)

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ANYTHING WRITTEN BY MSM/LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE REPORTERS ARE ALL FAKE NEWS. Don't spend time reading it. They are toxic weapons.

FBI Comey had repeatedly stated in Congress that there was no Russian meddling during the election of President Trump. Why Hillary lost? She was the most corrupt woman that ever breath on earth. She is shameless, no morals, most fraudulent activities done by her two hands and one evil corrupt brain.

The Obama administration has underground activities to either kill, stop, or remove President Trump. The democrats are afraid that President Trump will discover further all the corruptions and fraudulent activities they had during the last 8 years.
Here is what they are doing at present to destroy President Trump.
White House: Obama's 'Deep State' Working to Stop Trump

By Newsmax.
The White House acknowledged Tuesday there are people working in the government who are likely part of what has been called the "deep state" – an inner core of Obama loyalists seeking to stop the Trump presidency

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Mar 22, 2017 05:40:40   #
PeterS
 
maryla wrote:
Peter S: You need to come to grips with reality...Comey had DEEP ties to the Clinton Foundation. I was watching this on CSPAN yesterday and concluded Trump made a mistake when he kept Comey on as leader of the FBI. Perhaps he felt it would show his willingness to accept all viewpoints and that he had moved on from the fact that Comey had found "No evidence of intent" of malice or foul play when investigating Hillary's deleting of some 30,000 emails.

I had trouble believing Comey was to take the role of not taking sides in our politics. His analysis showed he was still pulling for Clinton. Maybe they did want to meddle with our elections but Comey already had their reason figured...and that's just wrong. They can't get into somebody's mind and that's exactly what they're trying!
Peter S: You need to come to grips with reality...... (show quote)


Deep ties to the Clinton Foundation? You are aware that it was Comey's announcement with just 10 days left that probably did Hillary in. No, you are dreaming if you think Comey is beholding to the Clintons. If that's true with friends like him Hillary really doesn't need any enemies....

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Mar 22, 2017 05:42:04   #
PeterS
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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It was reported before that FBI Comey was tied to some financial dealings with the Hillary Clinton Foundation syndicate. I think this is a very secretive and complicated issue, that Comey has to no other way but to protect his own of that past. I think he was trapped. Money talks, the tentacles and evils of Hillary Clinton! That was why FBI Comey never found any wrong doing of Clinton despite of the obvious. She was guilty of many crimes.

Huh? Did you read the same article that I did?

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Mar 22, 2017 05:50:05   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Huh? Did you read the same article that I did?


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Such infectious article any liberals write. No need to spend my time. They are toxic.

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Mar 22, 2017 05:51:54   #
PeterS
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We'll have to wait for the investigations to be finished, then wait to see how much is made public. This could take a very long time. The FBI probe has been active for 8 months already, but that alone is telling; if there's nothing to it, as Trump operatives and GOP lawmakers claim, then wouldn't the investigation have been concluded by now?

For lawmakers to draw conclusions at the BEGINNING of an investigation, is laughable at best, malfeasance at worst. Of COURSE there's no evidence of Trump campaign collusion with Russian operatives - because the FBI is STILL investigating - and the FBI does not release details of those investigations until they are done. The GOP's constant assertion that there is no evidence of collusion BEFORE that investigation is complete, is like a Judge releasing a suspected murderer immediately, because the police haven't produced evidence of guilt in advance of the investigation.

Here's the bottom line: we KNOW that several Trump operatives had contacts with Russian agents during the campaign and during the transition, then lied about those contacts. people behaving above board needn't lie about it. Of those that are KNOWN to have had such contacts, one resigned, one was fired and one recused himself from the ongoing investigation into those contacts. There are OTHER current and former operatives who have yet to face questioning - so far - but who are KNOWN to have had Russian contact. Two Trump operatives have had contact with Russian hackers and their willing/unwilling internet outlet, one of which has boasted about having had such contact ( Stone ).

Either Trump was a willing partner in treasonous activity, or he was pitifully unaware of what his people were doing, either of which makes him unfit to be President. Another problem the GOP has with this, is Pence, who would ordinarily become President should Trump resign ( to avoid prosecution ) or be impeached - but who has been implicated as well. Twice Pence has denied prior knowledge of treasonous activity, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, even after Flynn's own attorney's stated that THEY had informed Pence, and the acting AG has as well. Such pitiful lying is damning, as it is evidence of collusion, either in the acts themselves or the attempts at a cover up, either of which disqualifies him to be President.

I guess Ryan may become President yet.
We'll have to wait for the investigations to be fi... (show quote)

If he's prosecuted then we will know they found enough that they think him guilty. Prosecution alone won't be enough to sink him with his peeps but 63% of the population won't have a damn thing to do with him ever again. Somehow the Russians have him by the short and curlies. It could be a sex scandal or they could they've been funneling him money. Someone just doesn't send that many people over such a short period to talk to the Russians if they are just trying to be nice. And Trump hasn't made any friends in the intelligence community so if there is anything on him you can damn well bet someone will find it...

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Mar 22, 2017 05:53:43   #
PeterS
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Such infectious article any liberals write. No need to spend my time. They are toxic.

They are toxic to lies that's for damn sure. Better to stick to Breitbart and Fox. They are nice and safe and will surely give you what you want to hear...

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Mar 22, 2017 05:56:04   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
If he's prosecuted then we will know they found enough that they think him guilty. Prosecution alone won't be enough to sink him with his peeps but 63% of the population won't have a damn thing to do with him ever again. Somehow the Russians have him by the short and curlies. It could be a sex scandal or they could they've been funneling him money. Someone just doesn't send that many people over such a short period to talk to the Russians if they are just trying to be nice. And Trump hasn't made any friends in the intelligence community so if there is anything on him you can damn well bet someone will find it...
If he's prosecuted then we will know they found en... (show quote)


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Eventually Hillary and Barrack will find themselves tangled in the justice system when President Trump uncovers their vices.
Right now, deed in darkness they are trying to destroy Trump.

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Mar 22, 2017 05:57:39   #
PeterS
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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ANYTHING WRITTEN BY MSM/LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE REPORTERS ARE ALL FAKE NEWS. Don't spend time reading it. They are toxic weapons.

FBI Comey had repeatedly stated in Congress that there was no Russian meddling during the election of President Trump. Why Hillary lost? She was the most corrupt woman that ever breath on earth. She is shameless, no morals, most fraudulent activities done by her two hands and one evil corrupt brain.

The Obama administration has underground activities to either kill, stop, or remove President Trump. The democrats are afraid that President Trump will discover further all the corruptions and fraudulent activities they had during the last 8 years.
Here is what they are doing at present to destroy President Trump.
White House: Obama's 'Deep State' Working to Stop Trump

By Newsmax.
The White House acknowledged Tuesday there are people working in the government who are likely part of what has been called the "deep state" – an inner core of Obama loyalists seeking to stop the Trump presidency
============================ br ANYTHING WRITTEN B... (show quote)

Obama having an inner core of loyal people has nothing to do with Trump colluding with the Russians to try to take down Hillary. Discover whatever you like about Obama--that won't save pumpkin head if he's ensnared with the Russians...

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Mar 22, 2017 05:58:51   #
PeterS
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Eventually Hillary and Barrack will find themselves tangled in the justice system when President Trump uncovers their vices.
Right now, deed in darkness they are trying to destroy Trump.


Oh, this is all Trumps doings. Hillary and Obama are just sitting on the sidelines laughing their asses off...

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Mar 22, 2017 06:03:05   #
PeterS
 
lindajoy wrote:
Why did you forget about BOs wiretapping allegations???? And don't come back saying they are false or are finished with that investigstion...

Wiretapping allegations? If there was a FISA warrant it had nothing to do with Obama. I think Comey made it fairly clear that if Trump was wiretapped it had nothing to do with anything Obama did...

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Mar 22, 2017 06:06:20   #
PeterS
 
reconreb wrote:
Lock who up ?? Welcome and try to use quote reply we need to know if your out in the line shack talking to the cattle or someone here

I do find it ironic that the group that was leading the chants against Hillary were at the time were under investigation for a crime that was nothing short of Treason.

You conservatives are know for your use of projection and there was no better example then this case...

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Mar 22, 2017 06:13:45   #
PeterS
 
the waker wrote:
Of course Putin hated Clinton, unless your a globalist, most do.
Also, why do you think there is "something there"?
Much like Clinton getting a free pass, they better have some actual proof.
All there is no is he said/she said, speculation.
The fun part is them trying to prove it, without proving surveillance on a Presidential candidate.


Comey didn't say Trump wasn't under surveillance only that Obama had nothing to do with him being wiretapped. Comey only cleared Obama of Trumps accusations nothing more...

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Mar 22, 2017 06:38:30   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Obama having an inner core of loyal people has nothing to do with Trump colluding with the Russians to try to take down Hillary. Discover whatever you like about Obama--that won't save pumpkin head if he's ensnared with the Russians...


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BECAUSE ALL of those are FAKE NEWS you are reporting. They are part of the shadow government that your President Obama has been doing underground. I don't read fake news! You can report them over and over again. You must be paid by GEORGE SOROS, the enemy of democracy of the world. He is wanted all over by many civilized countries.

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