Israel massacres imprisoned Palestinians in Gaza to test new weapons. #2 (Page 2): This firefighter really does get you where it hurts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePPdUUISQOs...

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

Holy cow, this got me where it hurts, being a former firefighter and all: 9/11: Ten Years Later

This firefighter really does get you where it hurts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePPdUUISQOs

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

Holy cow, this got me where it hurts, being a former firefighter and all: 9/11: Ten Years Later

If you want to know who the masterminds of 9/11 were, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Ai4ned3xo

emarine

payne1000 wrote:

Since at least 95% of your replies on this forum are directed at me, you have an obvious interest in me.
You continue to prove you're a gutless coward by hiding behind anonymity in order to post your false insults.

99% of my reply's are directed @ the credibility of what you post...the 1% ties you in as the provider of stupidity...putz... notice I address you as... putz...not larry... larry's a Nazi @ I don't like Nazi's... You choose to post anti Semitic rant's I'll call you a Nazi ... you can call me whatever you want...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

Not torture?

Nope, waterboarding IS NOT torture. Torture is when you get your fingernails pulled out, or your balls hooked to a car battery, or your teeth drilled with a DeWalt, or a hot iron shoved up your ass, or your knee caps smashed with a ball peen hammer, or your tongue cut out, or your eyes burned with a propane torch, or an acid enema--in other words, torture involves excruciating pain, you may be mutilated, crippled, maimed, blinded, and sometimes killed. Waterboarding doesn't hurt, it doesn't mutilate, it doesn't cripple, it doesn't main, blind, or cause any other physical impairment. Waterboarding is purely psychological, it scares the living shit out of you.

Steven Crowder waterboarded for Christmas

emarine

Blade_Runner wrote:

Nope, waterboarding IS NOT torture. Torture is wh... (show quote)

Torture is reading the same repetitive propaganda posts or trying to apply logic to his misinterpretation of the basic physical laws & design in general... I wish I saved the post where he stated the planes should have bounced off the towers & he wonders why I post cartoons...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

If you want to know who the masterminds of 9/11 were, watch this: https://www.pieceofshit.com/watch?v=62Ai4ned3xo

Another freaking youtube? I don't think so. I already know who the mastermind of 9/11 is, Khalid Sheik Mohammed is his name, terrorism is his game. Or, it was anyway. In 1998, KSM brought the idea of blowing up a dozen US bound airliners to Osama bin Laden. Sounded good, so KSM contacted some Muslim bad guys in Malaysia to work out a plan. The logistics were a big problem, they didn't think they could pull it off.

Then KSM thought about actually using a hijacked airliner as a weapon. He brought this to the attention of Osama, and that was the seed of the attacks on 9/11.

payne1000

emarine wrote:

99% of my reply's are directed @ the credibility of what you post...the 1% ties you in as the provider of stupidity...putz... notice I address you as... putz...not larry... larry's a Nazi @ I don't like Nazi's... You choose to post anti Semitic rant's I'll call you a Nazi ... you can call me whatever you want...

I don't need to insult you since you have proven what you are by refusing to identify yourself.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

emarine wrote:

Torture is reading the same repetitive propaganda posts or trying to apply logic to his misinterpretation of the basic physical laws & design in general... I wish I saved the post where he stated the planes should have bounced off the towers & he wonders why I post cartoons...

I remember that. Couldn't believe anyone could be that stupid. You're right, E, we're being photoboarded. You'd think that after exposing us to the "smoking gun" 2000 times, and getting the truth from us 8000 times, he'd get the message. Ah, but payne doesn't want the truth, he just wants our names.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

I don't need to insult you since you have proven what you are by refusing to identify yourself.

What, exactly, is someone who refuses to identify himself?

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

Nope, waterboarding IS NOT torture. Torture is wh... (show quote)

Since you didn't read this, let me post it again:

"The details of Mohammed’s interrogation, described in the report issued earlier this month by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, make for grim, even sickening reading. During Mohammed’s waterboarding sessions, C.I.A. officers reported that he “yelled and twisted,” “seemed to lose control,” and became “somewhat frantic.” The purpose of the waterboarding appears to have been to bring Mohammed as close as possible to death without actually killing him. As one C.I.A. medical officer who presided over the torture wrote, “In the new technique we are basically doing a series of near drownings.”

On March 12, 2003, during a waterboarding session, so much water was forced into Mohammed that his “abdomen was somewhat distended and he expressed water when the abdomen was pressed,” the Senate report says, quoting from a C.I.A. cable. One of the medical officers present said that, even though Mohammed was vomiting during the sessions, his “gastric contents” had become so diluted that he was “not concerned about regurgitated gastric acid damaging KSM’s esophagus.” Instead, the medical officer said, he was worried that Mohammed had been filled with so much water that there was a danger that the electrolytes in his blood had become dangerously diluted; the officer requested that C.I.A. interrogators use salted water during the waterboarding sessions." http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-cia

The CIA used waterboarding torture because it doesn't leave visible scars. They thought they might have to bring KSM to the courtroom and scars would not look good in the photo-ops.

Even Wikipedia says waterboarding is torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

What, exactly, is someone who refuses to identify himself?

A shill until proven otherwise--by revealing his proven identity.

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

I remember that. Couldn't believe anyone could be that stupid. You're right, E, we're being photoboarded. You'd think that after exposing us to the "smoking gun" 2000 times, and getting the truth from us 8000 times, he'd get the message. Ah, but payne doesn't want the truth, he just wants our names.

Your names would be a good start, but you can't give your names and continue to post lies and vile insults without being exposed as to what you really are.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

Since you didn't read this, let me post it again: ... (show quote)

Yeah, I did read that the first time. Who's Wikipedia, and WTF does he know about it?

Waterboarding is an EIT, it is not torture. In technical terms it is "simulated drowning". Bottom line, they got KSM to tell the truth, and he is no worse for the wear. The operators who captured KSM also collected documents, computer hard drives, cell phones and other intel that assisted greatly in the interrogation. They had him dead to rights, but KSM was a stubborn bastard, so they gave him some big drinks of water. BFD.

payne1000

Blade_Runner wrote:

Yeah, I did read that the first time. Who's Wikipe... (show quote)

Here it is 16 years later. Why hasn't KSM been brought to trial if they have the evidence to convict him?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

payne1000 wrote:

Here it is 16 years later. Why hasn't KSM been brought to trial if they have the evidence to convict him?

KSM is a Pakistani, he has no rights under our Constitution or within our legal system. The only way he can be legally tried is through a military tribunal. I think KSM is still in Club Gitmo. Maybe his day will come.

A horrifying look into the mind of 9/11’s mastermind, in his own words

What is it like to stare into the face of evil? James E. Mitchell knows.

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Mitchell is an American patriot who has been unjustly persecuted for his role in crafting an interrogation program that helped stop terrorist attacks and saved countless lives. He does not shy from the controversies and pulls no punches in describing the interrogations. If anything, readers may be surprised by the compassion he showed these mass murderers. But the real news in his book is what happened after enhanced interrogations ended and the terrorists began cooperating.

Once their resistance had been broken, enhanced interrogation techniques stopped and KSM and other detainees became what Mitchell calls a “Terrorist Think Tank,” identifying voices in phone calls, deciphering encrypted messages and providing valuable information that led the CIA to other terrorists. Mitchell devotes an entire chapter to the critical role KSM and other detainees played in finding Osama bin Laden. KSM held classes where he lectured CIA officials on jihadist ideology, terrorist recruiting and attack planning. He was so cooperative, Mitchell writes, KSM “told me I should be on the FBI’s Most Wanted List because I am now a ‘known associate’ of KSM and a ‘graduate’ of his training camp.”

KSM also described for Mitchell many of his as yet unconsummated ideas for future attacks, the terrifying details of which Mitchell does not reveal for fear they might be implemented. “If we ever allow him to communicate unmonitored with the outside world,” Mitchell writes, “he could easily spread his deviously simple but potentially deadly ideas.”

But perhaps the most riveting part of the book is what KSM told Mitchell about what inspired al-Qaeda to attack the United States — and the U.S. response he expected. Today, some on both the left and the right argue that al-Qaeda wanted to draw us into a quagmire in Afghanistan — and now the Islamic State wants to do the same in Iraq and Syria. KSM said this is dead wrong. Far from trying to draw us in, KSM said that al-Qaeda expected the United States to respond to 9/11 as we had the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut — when, KSM told Mitchell, the United States “turned tail and ran.” He also said he thought we would treat 9/11 as a law enforcement matter, just as we had the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and the USS Cole in Yemen — arresting some operatives and firing a few missiles into empty tents, but otherwise leaving him free to plan the next attack.

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