This site will survive after you, after me. Did you ever stop to think that maybe people are seeing first hand their lives turned upside down now that ObamaCare is in full swing? Medical Care effects everyone unlike F&F or Benghazi but now that their lives are being effected they are now looking at these other stories and actually looking into them.
If the waters are too tough maybe you should find another place to post with like minded folks, just a thought!
Glaucon wrote:
What is the purpose of this site? It was my understanding that it was a forum in which we could share our political views, opinions and frustrations with other intelligent and reasonably well informed people. Unfortunately that is not the way it is working out. An increasing number who are apparently not interested in sharing views or in learning are successfully blocking others from benefiting by posting insults, childish, hateful, and irrelevant comments.
If this site is to survive and be useful, we would need to have some rules and agreements. If it is going to be drowned insults, childishness, hatered, and irrelevance, I am out of it and I think many others would be also. I am considering starting a user managed site that would include only those who are interested in sharing and learning. I would be interested in your opinions about this.
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Glaucon wrote:
What is the purpose of this site? It was my understanding that it was a forum in which we could share our political views, opinions and frustrations with other intelligent and reasonably well informed people. Unfortunately that is not the way it is working out. An increasing number who are apparently not interested in sharing views or in learning are successfully blocking others from benefiting by posting insults, childish, hateful, and irrelevant comments.
If this site is to survive and be useful, we would need to have some rules and agreements. If it is going to be drowned insults, childishness, hatered, and irrelevance, I am out of it and I think many others would be also. I am considering starting a user managed site that would include only those who are interested in sharing and learning. I would be interested in your opinions about this.
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Glaucon, I believe Will Rogers once said, "The best way out of a diffculty is through it."
I appreciate your posts, even when we don't align, in our thoughts. Stick it out, and continue to add those thoughts.
I learn from this forum, everyday...one way or the other. :mrgreen:
Glaucon wrote:
What is the purpose of this site? It was my understanding that it was a forum in which we could share our political views, opinions and frustrations with other intelligent and reasonably well informed people. Unfortunately that is not the way it is working out. An increasing number who are apparently not interested in sharing views or in learning are successfully blocking others from benefiting by posting insults, childish, hateful, and irrelevant comments.
If this site is to survive and be useful, we would need to have some rules and agreements. If it is going to be drowned insults, childishness, hatered, and irrelevance, I am out of it and I think many others would be also. I am considering starting a user managed site that would include only those who are interested in sharing and learning. I would be interested in your opinions about this.
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Your problem is simple, you aren't happy that this site doesn't censor the hurtful truth! You would rather that it was only progressive propaganda! When you hear something not agreeing with the offical Obama party line, you revert to Alinksi tactics: insults, ridicule, misinformation, and then outright lying! I think you would be happier at "The Alternet". They accept outragous articles, those that ought to be labeled "Satire" but purport to be "Truth". And ban any critism! If you are a professor, as you claim, I don't wonder why you aren't happy here! Having a captive audience to indoctrinate must stoke your ego! Here are some that have more experience than you, and with experience comes common sense! Your liberals are devoid of both! WE are interested in hearing about truth and experiences, WE get enough leftist propaganda on the liberal biased media!
bmac32 wrote:
Dictionary-Dictionary A dictionary is a collection of words in one or more specific languages, often listed alphabetically, with usage information, definitions, etymologies, phonetics, pronunciations, and other information; ...
motivated-to give (someone) a reason for doing something
cognition-The mental process of knowing, including aspects such as awareness, perception, reasoning, and judgment.
Your mental process has zero common sense.
Instead of trying to force your views on others, you were able to let yourself learn something today. Good for you and keep it up.
astrolite wrote:
"that thing that you do" you mean expose libtards? I intend to keep doing it!
Only if you leave the bathroom door open.
Why do you feel the need to be a wise ass? You act like your the only one with a brain and everyone else is brainless. If that were the case you would not be here.
Glaucon wrote:
Instead of trying to force your views on others, you were able to let yourself learn something today. Good for you and keep it up.
bmac32 wrote:
Why do you feel the need to be a wise ass? You act like your the only one with a brain and everyone else is brainless. If that were the case you would not be here.
You were able to have another day without learning anything. Sticks and stones................
bmac32 wrote:
This site will survive after you, after me. Did you ever stop to think that maybe people are seeing first hand their lives turned upside down now that ObamaCare is in full swing? Medical Care effects everyone unlike F&F or Benghazi but now that their lives are being effected they are now looking at these other stories and actually looking into them.
If the waters are too tough maybe you should find another place to post with like minded folks, just a thought!
You obviously didn't read my post before you responded. You are supposed to aim and then shoot and you tend to get that backwards, shoot and then aim. If you then call what you hit, the target, you have a success ......in you mind.
You obviously have misjudged me for someone who cares! Go back to your dolls.
Glaucon wrote:
You obviously didn't read my post before you responded. You are supposed to aim and then shoot and you tend to get that backwards, shoot and then aim. If you then call what you hit, the target, you have a success ......in you mind.
astrolite wrote:
Your problem is simple, you aren't happy that this site doesn't censor the hurtful truth! You would rather that it was only progressive propaganda! When you hear something not agreeing with the offical Obama party line, you revert to Alinksi tactics: insults, ridicule, misinformation, and then outright lying! I think you would be happier at "The Alternet". They accept outragous articles, those that ought to be labeled "Satire" but purport to be "Truth". And ban any critism! If you are a professor, as you claim, I don't wonder why you aren't happy here! Having a captive audience to indoctrinate must stoke your ego! Here are some that have more experience than you, and with experience comes common sense! Your liberals are devoid of both! WE are interested in hearing about truth and experiences, WE get enough leftist propaganda on the liberal biased media!
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After reading a lot of controversy about nothing, I would like to ask a question. Why do you think there were none or very few Medical Personal giving input to the law? Do you think they would have written it differently? I do, I doubt if Physicians think the way this is put together. It looks like a job straight from the Insurance industry.
If Health care is so expensive, it must be because of several factors that I feel have a lot to do with it.
1. Catastrophic medical cases. -ie. premature babies, saving them costs a lot of money. Sometimes at least 1 million They used to let them die.
2. An elderly person with diabetes, hypertension, and thyroid disease, that gets a brain tumor, when treated would rack up a bill for over 100 thousand dollars.
Insurance companies just jack up the fees. or want to eliminate these kind of expenses by letting people die.
The trouble is, everyone then has to pay for this kind of humanitarian aide. The cost of insurance could come down, if the Government covered these kind of catastrophic problems, just as they do Hospice care.
I am sure there are other ways to reduce the cost of insurance and normal health care by taking the really expensive things out of the normal flow of health maintenance.
If the government worried about where the high costs are occurring and taking care of them as an exception by taking a percentage of Insurance proceeds to fund it, it would be better than making everyone pay for things they will never need or want.
This program is just going to make the profit for health insurance companies sky rocket and be uncontrollable. Of course, they will give all executives a big bonus to hid the profit they will be getting.
larry wrote:
After reading a lot of controversy about nothing, I would like to ask a question. Why do you think there were none or very few Medical Personal giving input to the law? Do you think they would have written it differently? I do, I doubt if Physicians think the way this is put together. It looks like a job straight from the Insurance industry.
If Health care is so expensive, it must be because of several factors that I feel have a lot to do with it.
1. Catastrophic medical cases. -ie. premature babies, saving them costs a lot of money. Sometimes at least 1 million They used to let them die.
2. An elderly person with diabetes, hypertension, and thyroid disease, that gets a brain tumor, when treated would rack up a bill for over 100 thousand dollars.
Insurance companies just jack up the fees. or want to eliminate these kind of expenses by letting people die.
The trouble is, everyone then has to pay for this kind of humanitarian aide. The cost of insurance could come down, if the Government covered these kind of catastrophic problems, just as they do Hospice care.
I am sure there are other ways to reduce the cost of insurance and normal health care by taking the really expensive things out of the normal flow of health maintenance.
If the government worried about where the high costs are occurring and taking care of them as an exception by taking a percentage of Insurance proceeds to fund it, it would be better than making everyone pay for things they will never need or want.
This program is just going to make the profit for health insurance companies sky rocket and be uncontrollable. Of course, they will give all executives a big bonus to hid the profit they will be getting.
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Larry,
Good thinking and some good suggestions.
larry wrote:
After reading a lot of controversy about nothing, I would like to ask a question. Why do you think there were none or very few Medical Personal giving input to the law? Do you think they would have written it differently? I do, I doubt if Physicians think the way this is put together. It looks like a job straight from the Insurance industry.
If Health care is so expensive, it must be because of several factors that I feel have a lot to do with it.
1. Catastrophic medical cases. -ie. premature babies, saving them costs a lot of money. Sometimes at least 1 million They used to let them die.
2. An elderly person with diabetes, hypertension, and thyroid disease, that gets a brain tumor, when treated would rack up a bill for over 100 thousand dollars.
Insurance companies just jack up the fees. or want to eliminate these kind of expenses by letting people die.
The trouble is, everyone then has to pay for this kind of humanitarian aide. The cost of insurance could come down, if the Government covered these kind of catastrophic problems, just as they do Hospice care.
I am sure there are other ways to reduce the cost of insurance and normal health care by taking the really expensive things out of the normal flow of health maintenance.
If the government worried about where the high costs are occurring and taking care of them as an exception by taking a percentage of Insurance proceeds to fund it, it would be better than making everyone pay for things they will never need or want.
This program is just going to make the profit for health insurance companies sky rocket and be uncontrollable. Of course, they will give all executives a big bonus to hid the profit they will be getting.
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Larry, Although I think this answer wasn't directed to me, (you need to use Quote reply) I am in full agreement with you. And you forgot the usefulness of this for democrat rewards in the form of appointments and punishments in the form of denials, done secretly by those appointees! sort of like the IRS attacks (that the democrats deny, after getting caught). and the secret recordings of enemies (republicans) to use for extortion being done by the NSA! Only a fool wouldn't realize that that is another case of "the FBI digging up dirt on republicans that Hilary got caught in. Also notice that the media is beginning to picture her as Mother Teresa? She will be the next person programed into the vote counting computers by Soros' companies!
astrolite wrote:
Larry, Although I think this answer wasn't directed to me, (you need to use Quote reply) I am in full agreement with you. And you forgot the usefulness of this for democrat rewards in the form of appointments and punishments in the form of denials, done secretly by those appointees! sort of like the IRS attacks (that the democrats deny, after getting caught). and the secret recordings of enemies (republicans) to use for extortion being done by the NSA! Only a fool wouldn't realize that that is another case of "the FBI digging up dirt on republicans that Hilary got caught in. Also notice that the media is beginning to picture her as Mother Teresa? She will be the next person programed into the vote counting computers by Soros' companies!
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I did not use quote reply because I was looking at this as related but not directed at any one in particular. I was hoping, and am glad to see that I did get replies, that someone else would either pick apart my thinking or give me more depth to my thinking. Thank you for your input.
bmac32 wrote:
You obviously have misjudged me for someone who cares! Go back to your dolls.
That appears to be an attempt, on your part, to insult me. You obviously care very very very much about being right. Have you ever acknowledged being wrong about anything? It can be scary, but being honest and informed can be rewarding. Give it a little try a bit at a time. Try it, you may like it.
astrolite wrote:
Larry, Although I think this answer wasn't directed to me, (you need to use Quote reply) I am in full agreement with you. And you forgot the usefulness of this for democrat rewards in the form of appointments and punishments in the form of denials, done secretly by those appointees! sort of like the IRS attacks (that the democrats deny, after getting caught). and the secret recordings of enemies (republicans) to use for extortion being done by the NSA! Only a fool wouldn't realize that that is another case of "the FBI digging up dirt on republicans that Hilary got caught in. Also notice that the media is beginning to picture her as Mother Teresa? She will be the next person programed into the vote counting computers by Soros' companies!
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Democrats do a lot of political things and I hate it when they do it. Let's get rid of Democratic politicians who act politically. That's the ticket.
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