Want a look at what Obama left us? (Page 2): half my reply got left out, sorry...

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

cesspool jones wrote:

They will by Baptism by Fire....probably gun

half my reply got left out, sorry

moldyoldy

vettelover wrote:

Remember, This is also what Obama has left us. This is the Obama recovery the liberals love to throw around even though they no nothing of economics and how our "Let it be so" paper currency works.

PS - - The 1995-1999 snap shot is just before the DOT.com bubble explosion

Yes Clinton did a great job, then bush destroyed the economy and Obama had to start from scratch.

moldyoldy

padremike wrote:

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This is what bothers a lot of people about Trump. He won't accept a can't do attitude, or inexperienced, incompetent performance. He will get results, it just might not be smooth or pretty. Here are some amazing stats: Make sure you read to the bottom. An eye opener! (Or should be!)

1. California New Mexico Mississippi Alabama Illinois Kentucky Ohio New York Maine South Carolina

These 10 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

2. Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2012, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for 40 hour week, while the average job pays $24.00 an hour.

3. Check the last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is: A real-life business not a government job.

Here are the percentages:

38% T. Roosevelt 40% Taft 52% Wilson 49% Harding 48% Coolidge 42% Hoover 50% F. D. Roosevelt 50% Truman 57% Eisenhower 30% Kennedy 47% Johnson 53% Nixon 42% Ford 32% Carter 56% Reagan 51% GH Bush 39% Clinton 55% GW Bush 8% Obama

This helps explain the bias, if not the incompetence, of the last administration: ONLY 8% of them have ever worked in private business! That's right! Only eight percent - the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people tried to tell our corporations how to run their businesses? How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And, when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They've spent most of their time in academia, government, and/or non-profit jobs or as "community organizers."

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If you can't get number one right, I will not bother checking the rest.

But Baldwin’s definition of individuals “dependent on government” is stated incorrectly in the viral email as simply those on “welfare.” Baldwin wrote that, among the dependents, he included current state and local government employees, as well as former workers receiving government pensions. And he only counted Medicaid recipients as those on “welfare.”
And none of the 11 states on his list has more Medicaid recipients than workers. Also, none of the states has more recipients of other kinds of “welfare,” such as TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) or food stamps (officially known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).
Baldwin told us in an interview that what he reported and what the email says “are not the same thing at all.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/death-spiral-states/

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

moldyoldy wrote:

Yes Clinton did a great job, then bush destroyed the economy and Obama had to start from scratch.

The economy was destroyed by Clinton when he signed a bill to get rid of most of the Glass-Stegall Act put in place by President Roosevelt to stop the great depression from happing again. President Roosevelt seemed to have great insight on that problem.

moldyoldy

Louie27 wrote:

The economy was destroyed by Clinton when he signed a bill to get rid of most of the Glass-Stegall Act put in place by President Roosevelt to stop the great depression from happing again. President Roosevelt seemed to have great insight on that problem.

“The Bush Recession” — Let’s Call it What It Is

By Steve Rosenbaum
140

When Barack Obama took office, it was clearly with a vision of a bi-partisan (or in his mind - ‘post partisan’) administration. This was clearly naive. Perhaps voters want it, and perhaps there are some enlightened politicians who can see the forest for the trees, but for the large majority - the Democratic win in 2008 is little more than a call for the Republicans to regroup and prepare for a full frontal assault in 2012. If this wasn’t clear before the vote on the Stimulus package, it should be clear now. Already Republican operatives are drafting commercials for the midterm elections. They’ll play like this: “Since Barack Obama took office, XX Americans have lost their jobs, XX Americans have lost their homes, and XX Americans have filed for bankruptcy. In light of the failed programs of the Obama administration, it’s time to re-elect Republicans on a platform of tax reform, smaller government, and less handouts to the poor and underprivileged.” These commercials will work, because we all know that however successful the stimulus package is, there will be months, or years of economic pain before we start to see the positive effects of these investments.

So, what to do about this? The answer is, we must name our pain. We must begin to refer to the current recession as the “Bush Recession.” We must talk about the difficult, complex, long-term efforts we’ll need to all engage in order to reverse the toxic economic environment created by the “Bush Recession.” The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight — it took 8 years of careful, purposeful, willful actions to create this cycle of economic devastation. I understand why Obama isn’t focused on blaming the Bush administration. He’s right to look forward, rather than back. There’s way too much to do to spend any cycles placing blame. At the same time, if we don’t name our pain, then we’re likely to find ourselves fighting off right wing pundits in 2 years, and 4, who try to re-write history and hold the Obama administration responsible for the very things they’re trying to fix. So, with that in mind, let’s catalog the drivers that have created the Bush Recession, and make sure we agree that these collective actions happened long before the Obama administration was in the White House. First, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. During the 8 years the Bush administration was in charge, we saw a dramatic expansion in available credit to borrowers who where not able to quality for conventional mortgages. This boom in new buyers drove up housing prices, creating a bubble of newfound wealth in the equity of homes, and creating a cycle of borrowing against newly inflated home equity. This bubble was evident to economists and consumers alike, yet in the absence of any legislation or government controls - the trend continued to balloon. Second, Iraq. The cost of our dramatic increase in military spending provided a huge drain on the Federal Budget, as services that were heretofore part of the military budget became privatized and outsourced. Companies like Blackwater and Halliburton received huge military contracts to provide services - often without bids or oversight. Now, seven years later, we’re uncovering fraud, waste, and violations of human rights that reflect both the size of the contracts and the Government’s basic lack of ability to oversee or administer these programs. The elixir of privatization and deregulation created an environment that was ripe for fraud and misuse. In hindsight, is this any surprise? Third, abandonment of a US economic vision. For 8 years the Bush administration focused on security and fear, while any vision of our economic future got put on hold. Gasoline taxes, emission standards or innovation in our core sectors were all either ignored or frowned upon. Fourth, the environment. As George Bush dragged his heals on any environmental science, things like Kyoto were left unsigned. As former Vice President Al Gore raised the nation’s awareness of Global Warming, the Bush Administration sought to minimize and obfuscate the science around climate change. As a result, government funding for new energy was back-burnered, and industries that count on the Government to legislate change and create a level playing field continued to build and produce gas guzzling trucks and automobiles. While world governments have used gas taxes to drive both conservation and innovation, the Bush administration essentially subsidized fossil fuel burning automobiles. The result, our energy industries are desperately behind, and our automotive industry is almost a decade behind in thinking about alternative energy. Fifth, Wall Street and Banking. For 8 years there has been a dramatic expansion in the services and fast consolidation of what had been separate and in some cases regulated industries. As banking, brokerage, insurance, and financial services companies acquired and merged - the speed of these transactions far exceeded the regulatory ability or resources (not by accident) resulting in such things as credit default swaps that now even seasoned wall-streeters say were hard to understand. The Bush Recession isn’t the result of a single bad decision, or even actions out of our control. For 8 years we’ve allowed a handful of private industries to operate without oversight or review, with a focus on short term gains, as environmental and world economic issues have loomed large. The Obama administration will face all the known issues that were the underpinning of the Bush Recession, as well as the need to manage and respond to the emerging crisis. So to suggest that a mere 24 months from the start of his administration, Obama and his Cabinet should be able to show enough progress to push back a full on frontal assault from the Republicans is beyond optimistic, it is impossible. The Republicans have made it clear by voting en-mass against the Stimulus Plan that they are positioning their party to run against Obama - and to essentially do what they can to blunt any potential progress or improvement in the conditions for average Americans that might be held up as a success for the Administration. This kind of partisan politics comes at the expense of average Americans and the country itself. To suggest that after spending 8 years building the largest government, the least oversight, and the largest deficit in history, they will run in 2010 on a platform that is against Stimulus and ‘small government’ is a clue about just how short a memory the Republican’s think average Americans have for the condition of the economy. We shouldn’t let this happen. It is the Bush Recession. We’re deep in the teeth of it now. And we’ll need to fight to regain economic stability and future prosperity that once seemed like an American birthright. The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight, and it won’t be fixed overnight either. Republicans should take responsibility for the economic conditions they brought on the country. And that means being part of the solution, rather than standing on the sidelines and looking for a ‘Rovian’ way to misdirect American anger in a cynical attempt to regain power.
Let’s call it what it is — “The Bush Recession.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/the-bush-recession-lets-c_b_167231.html

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

cesspool jones wrote:

They will by Baptism by Fire....probably gun

It's moving in that direction.

johnson90

3 words describe what OSODOMITE left us with...A DISASTROUS MESS!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

tdsrnest wrote:

What a line of BS

Which part??

cesspool jones Loc: atlanta

moldyoldy wrote:

“The Bush Recession” — Let’s Call it What It Is

By Steve Rosenbaum
140

When Barack Obama took office, it was clearly with a vision of a bi-partisan (or in his mind - ‘post partisan’) administration. This was clearly naive. Perhaps voters want it, and perhaps there are some enlightened politicians who can see the forest for the trees, but for the large majority - the Democratic win in 2008 is little more than a call for the Republicans to regroup and prepare for a full frontal assault in 2012. If this wasn’t clear before the vote on the Stimulus package, it should be clear now. Already Republican operatives are drafting commercials for the midterm elections. They’ll play like this: “Since Barack Obama took office, XX Americans have lost their jobs, XX Americans have lost their homes, and XX Americans have filed for bankruptcy. In light of the failed programs of the Obama administration, it’s time to re-elect Republicans on a platform of tax reform, smaller government, and less handouts to the poor and underprivileged.” These commercials will work, because we all know that however successful the stimulus package is, there will be months, or years of economic pain before we start to see the positive effects of these investments.

So, what to do about this? The answer is, we must name our pain. We must begin to refer to the current recession as the “Bush Recession.” We must talk about the difficult, complex, long-term efforts we’ll need to all engage in order to reverse the toxic economic environment created by the “Bush Recession.” The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight — it took 8 years of careful, purposeful, willful actions to create this cycle of economic devastation. I understand why Obama isn’t focused on blaming the Bush administration. He’s right to look forward, rather than back. There’s way too much to do to spend any cycles placing blame. At the same time, if we don’t name our pain, then we’re likely to find ourselves fighting off right wing pundits in 2 years, and 4, who try to re-write history and hold the Obama administration responsible for the very things they’re trying to fix. So, with that in mind, let’s catalog the drivers that have created the Bush Recession, and make sure we agree that these collective actions happened long before the Obama administration was in the White House. First, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. During the 8 years the Bush administration was in charge, we saw a dramatic expansion in available credit to borrowers who where not able to quality for conventional mortgages. This boom in new buyers drove up housing prices, creating a bubble of newfound wealth in the equity of homes, and creating a cycle of borrowing against newly inflated home equity. This bubble was evident to economists and consumers alike, yet in the absence of any legislation or government controls - the trend continued to balloon. Second, Iraq. The cost of our dramatic increase in military spending provided a huge drain on the Federal Budget, as services that were heretofore part of the military budget became privatized and outsourced. Companies like Blackwater and Halliburton received huge military contracts to provide services - often without bids or oversight. Now, seven years later, we’re uncovering fraud, waste, and violations of human rights that reflect both the size of the contracts and the Government’s basic lack of ability to oversee or administer these programs. The elixir of privatization and deregulation created an environment that was ripe for fraud and misuse. In hindsight, is this any surprise? Third, abandonment of a US economic vision. For 8 years the Bush administration focused on security and fear, while any vision of our economic future got put on hold. Gasoline taxes, emission standards or innovation in our core sectors were all either ignored or frowned upon. Fourth, the environment. As George Bush dragged his heals on any environmental science, things like Kyoto were left unsigned. As former Vice President Al Gore raised the nation’s awareness of Global Warming, the Bush Administration sought to minimize and obfuscate the science around climate change. As a result, government funding for new energy was back-burnered, and industries that count on the Government to legislate change and create a level playing field continued to build and produce gas guzzling trucks and automobiles. While world governments have used gas taxes to drive both conservation and innovation, the Bush administration essentially subsidized fossil fuel burning automobiles. The result, our energy industries are desperately behind, and our automotive industry is almost a decade behind in thinking about alternative energy. Fifth, Wall Street and Banking. For 8 years there has been a dramatic expansion in the services and fast consolidation of what had been separate and in some cases regulated industries. As banking, brokerage, insurance, and financial services companies acquired and merged - the speed of these transactions far exceeded the regulatory ability or resources (not by accident) resulting in such things as credit default swaps that now even seasoned wall-streeters say were hard to understand. The Bush Recession isn’t the result of a single bad decision, or even actions out of our control. For 8 years we’ve allowed a handful of private industries to operate without oversight or review, with a focus on short term gains, as environmental and world economic issues have loomed large. The Obama administration will face all the known issues that were the underpinning of the Bush Recession, as well as the need to manage and respond to the emerging crisis. So to suggest that a mere 24 months from the start of his administration, Obama and his Cabinet should be able to show enough progress to push back a full on frontal assault from the Republicans is beyond optimistic, it is impossible. The Republicans have made it clear by voting en-mass against the Stimulus Plan that they are positioning their party to run against Obama - and to essentially do what they can to blunt any potential progress or improvement in the conditions for average Americans that might be held up as a success for the Administration. This kind of partisan politics comes at the expense of average Americans and the country itself. To suggest that after spending 8 years building the largest government, the least oversight, and the largest deficit in history, they will run in 2010 on a platform that is against Stimulus and ‘small government’ is a clue about just how short a memory the Republican’s think average Americans have for the condition of the economy. We shouldn’t let this happen. It is the Bush Recession. We’re deep in the teeth of it now. And we’ll need to fight to regain economic stability and future prosperity that once seemed like an American birthright. The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight, and it won’t be fixed overnight either. Republicans should take responsibility for the economic conditions they brought on the country. And that means being part of the solution, rather than standing on the sidelines and looking for a ‘Rovian’ way to misdirect American anger in a cynical attempt to regain power.
Let’s call it what it is — “The Bush Recession.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/the-bush-recession-lets-c_b_167231.html

“The Bush Recession” — Let’s Call it What It Is br... (show quote)

huffnpuff will soon be under the scope. nice load of bullshit. let's call it what it is...liberal fantasy newz.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

moldyoldy wrote:

“The Bush Recession” — Let’s Call it What It Is

By Steve Rosenbaum
140

When Barack Obama took office, it was clearly with a vision of a bi-partisan (or in his mind - ‘post partisan’) administration. This was clearly naive. Perhaps voters want it, and perhaps there are some enlightened politicians who can see the forest for the trees, but for the large majority - the Democratic win in 2008 is little more than a call for the Republicans to regroup and prepare for a full frontal assault in 2012. If this wasn’t clear before the vote on the Stimulus package, it should be clear now. Already Republican operatives are drafting commercials for the midterm elections. They’ll play like this: “Since Barack Obama took office, XX Americans have lost their jobs, XX Americans have lost their homes, and XX Americans have filed for bankruptcy. In light of the failed programs of the Obama administration, it’s time to re-elect Republicans on a platform of tax reform, smaller government, and less handouts to the poor and underprivileged.” These commercials will work, because we all know that however successful the stimulus package is, there will be months, or years of economic pain before we start to see the positive effects of these investments.

So, what to do about this? The answer is, we must name our pain. We must begin to refer to the current recession as the “Bush Recession.” We must talk about the difficult, complex, long-term efforts we’ll need to all engage in order to reverse the toxic economic environment created by the “Bush Recession.” The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight — it took 8 years of careful, purposeful, willful actions to create this cycle of economic devastation. I understand why Obama isn’t focused on blaming the Bush administration. He’s right to look forward, rather than back. There’s way too much to do to spend any cycles placing blame. At the same time, if we don’t name our pain, then we’re likely to find ourselves fighting off right wing pundits in 2 years, and 4, who try to re-write history and hold the Obama administration responsible for the very things they’re trying to fix. So, with that in mind, let’s catalog the drivers that have created the Bush Recession, and make sure we agree that these collective actions happened long before the Obama administration was in the White House. First, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. During the 8 years the Bush administration was in charge, we saw a dramatic expansion in available credit to borrowers who where not able to quality for conventional mortgages. This boom in new buyers drove up housing prices, creating a bubble of newfound wealth in the equity of homes, and creating a cycle of borrowing against newly inflated home equity. This bubble was evident to economists and consumers alike, yet in the absence of any legislation or government controls - the trend continued to balloon. Second, Iraq. The cost of our dramatic increase in military spending provided a huge drain on the Federal Budget, as services that were heretofore part of the military budget became privatized and outsourced. Companies like Blackwater and Halliburton received huge military contracts to provide services - often without bids or oversight. Now, seven years later, we’re uncovering fraud, waste, and violations of human rights that reflect both the size of the contracts and the Government’s basic lack of ability to oversee or administer these programs. The elixir of privatization and deregulation created an environment that was ripe for fraud and misuse. In hindsight, is this any surprise? Third, abandonment of a US economic vision. For 8 years the Bush administration focused on security and fear, while any vision of our economic future got put on hold. Gasoline taxes, emission standards or innovation in our core sectors were all either ignored or frowned upon. Fourth, the environment. As George Bush dragged his heals on any environmental science, things like Kyoto were left unsigned. As former Vice President Al Gore raised the nation’s awareness of Global Warming, the Bush Administration sought to minimize and obfuscate the science around climate change. As a result, government funding for new energy was back-burnered, and industries that count on the Government to legislate change and create a level playing field continued to build and produce gas guzzling trucks and automobiles. While world governments have used gas taxes to drive both conservation and innovation, the Bush administration essentially subsidized fossil fuel burning automobiles. The result, our energy industries are desperately behind, and our automotive industry is almost a decade behind in thinking about alternative energy. Fifth, Wall Street and Banking. For 8 years there has been a dramatic expansion in the services and fast consolidation of what had been separate and in some cases regulated industries. As banking, brokerage, insurance, and financial services companies acquired and merged - the speed of these transactions far exceeded the regulatory ability or resources (not by accident) resulting in such things as credit default swaps that now even seasoned wall-streeters say were hard to understand. The Bush Recession isn’t the result of a single bad decision, or even actions out of our control. For 8 years we’ve allowed a handful of private industries to operate without oversight or review, with a focus on short term gains, as environmental and world economic issues have loomed large. The Obama administration will face all the known issues that were the underpinning of the Bush Recession, as well as the need to manage and respond to the emerging crisis. So to suggest that a mere 24 months from the start of his administration, Obama and his Cabinet should be able to show enough progress to push back a full on frontal assault from the Republicans is beyond optimistic, it is impossible. The Republicans have made it clear by voting en-mass against the Stimulus Plan that they are positioning their party to run against Obama - and to essentially do what they can to blunt any potential progress or improvement in the conditions for average Americans that might be held up as a success for the Administration. This kind of partisan politics comes at the expense of average Americans and the country itself. To suggest that after spending 8 years building the largest government, the least oversight, and the largest deficit in history, they will run in 2010 on a platform that is against Stimulus and ‘small government’ is a clue about just how short a memory the Republican’s think average Americans have for the condition of the economy. We shouldn’t let this happen. It is the Bush Recession. We’re deep in the teeth of it now. And we’ll need to fight to regain economic stability and future prosperity that once seemed like an American birthright. The Bush Recession didn’t happen overnight, and it won’t be fixed overnight either. Republicans should take responsibility for the economic conditions they brought on the country. And that means being part of the solution, rather than standing on the sidelines and looking for a ‘Rovian’ way to misdirect American anger in a cynical attempt to regain power.
Let’s call it what it is — “The Bush Recession.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-rosenbaum/the-bush-recession-lets-c_b_167231.html

“The Bush Recession” — Let’s Call it What It Is br... (show quote)

Let's be truthful and call it what it really is.......bullshit! Let's call you what you really are.......full of bullshit! Let's call people who get their news from the Huffington Post what they really are.....fed by bullshit! But I'm glad there are people like you who gobble up enough bullshit to be an example for the rest of us to observe the fatal results. Thank you!

moldyoldy

padremike wrote:

Let's be truthful and call it what it really is.......bullshit! Let's call you what you really are.......full of bullshit! Let's call people who get their news from the Huffington Post what they really are.....fed by bullshit! But I'm glad there are people like you who gobble up enough bullshit to be an example for the rest of us to observe the fatal results. Thank you!

You and trump rely on breitbart.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

moldyoldy wrote:

You and trump rely on breitbart.

You just proved something we've already known about you radical extreme leftists.......you lie! You've never read anything I've ever posted from Breitbart because I never have. I do not subscribe to or read their site; Hell's Bells, I don't even know if they have a site. Unlike you, I'm not an internet troll endlessly searching for articles and obnoxious clip art that strictly conform to a perverted ideology. You, on the other hand, are a expert, an aficionado of perversion.