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Why is a 30 trillion national debt okay if a republican is in charge?
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Feb 24, 2017 22:48:06   #
HedgeHog
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I need to get educated on 19th century philosophy.


Leibniz, though an 18th century philosopher and mathematician, concentrated on trying to show that God had created the "best of all possible worlds" and thus could still be seen as all-loving. Voltaire satirized that in some of his stories.

Descartes was a little weird in his philosophy: making the distinction between mind and matter. I read once it was done for the purpose of being able to do scientific study without incurring the wrath of the Church. But Descartes was French.

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Feb 24, 2017 23:04:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Leibniz, though an 18th century philosopher and mathematician, concentrated on trying to show that God had created the "best of all possible worlds" and thus could still be seen as all-loving. Voltaire satirized that in some of his stories.

Descartes was a little weird in his philosophy: making the distinction between mind and matter. I read once it was done for the purpose of being able to do scientific study without incurring the wrath of the Church. But Descartes was French.
Leibniz, though an 18th century philosopher and ma... (show quote)


You always refer to 19th century thinking. What is it in a nut shell?

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Feb 24, 2017 23:19:17   #
HedgeHog
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You always refer to 19th century thinking. What is it in a nut shell?


How much of a nutshell do you want?

Let me work on it, and get back to you tomorrow. Tard.

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Feb 25, 2017 00:14:09   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
HedgeHog wrote:
How much of a nutshell do you want?

Let me work on it, and get back to you tomorrow. Tard.


In a word, yes.

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Feb 25, 2017 07:48:16   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
HedgeHog wrote:
That was sarcasm. It never works with the Leftist/Liberals, don't know why I use it so often.

My contention is the common working man can pretty much enhance his own life, if government would just get the hell out of the way!



Sorry.

I know that conservatives are supposed to be the war hawks but the wars of the 20th centruy were mostly intiatives from progressives; the world wars, Korea by Truman & Viet-Nam by Kennedy/Johnson. That stems from the Wilson distortion 'make the world safe for democracy.' I've regressed to the John Adams idea of function of wishing the world the best in its pursuit of democracy but being the stewards only of our own.

I think a reassessment of this entire matter is way overdue and Trump shows an inkling of moving in that direction. The Founding Fathers were very suspicious of standing armies due to the colonial experience.

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Feb 25, 2017 07:52:15   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Petey, Petey, Petey. Trump will be able to do more to pay off the debt, because he intends to "Free Gulliver"---to decrease taxes. I know you have trouble following how that mechanism works to elevate revenue, but that's how it is.




Come on Hedgehog. No progressive appreciates the efforts of the common man. They all despise the common man. Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, FDR, John Dewey, etc. We are pieces on their chess board to be sacrificed to their blue print.

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Feb 25, 2017 08:05:02   #
markinny
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump intends to spend money on the infrastructure and on increasing the military and no one will care because we have tax cuts and plenty of distractions. How is it, if we put a couple bucks in a conservatives pocket they could give a fuk how large that makes debt increase?

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/06/28/national-debt-would-increase-11-5-trillion-under-trump-report-says.html


do you really think you could pay back the 20 trillion we owe now. lol

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Feb 25, 2017 08:05:28   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
markinny wrote:
do you really think you could pay back the 20 trillion we owe now. lol


Will they take a check?

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Feb 25, 2017 08:45:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
'Why is a 30 trillion national debt okay if a republican is in charge?'
It's not; but at least Americans will see something done with it (infrastructure); instead of lining the pockets of the elitist PTB and foreigners.

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Feb 25, 2017 08:59:00   #
HedgeHog
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Sorry.

I know that conservatives are supposed to be the war hawks but the wars of the 20th centruy were mostly intiatives from progressives; the world wars, Korea by Truman & Viet-Nam by Kennedy/Johnson. That stems from the Wilson distortion 'make the world safe for democracy.' I've regressed to the John Adams idea of function of wishing the world the best in its pursuit of democracy but being the stewards only of our own.

I think a reassessment of this entire matter is way overdue and Trump shows an inkling of moving in that direction. The Founding Fathers were very suspicious of standing armies due to the colonial experience.
Sorry. br br I know that conservatives are supp... (show quote)


The Wilsonian fallacy was that he believed that all peoples of the world were like Americans: self-reliant with a knowledge of what they wanted.

Americans more than any other people can not, and do not, kneel to any other. That is why, though they may not know it, people came to America. (In the past, anyway.)

The end result of Socialism/Communism is devotion (kneeling) to the state.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:01:35   #
HedgeHog
 
eagleye13 wrote:
'Why is a 30 trillion national debt okay if a republican is in charge?'
It's not; but at least Americans will see something done with it (infrastructure); instead of lining the pockets of the elitist PTB and foreigners.


And if Trump has his way with a decrease in corporate taxes, Americans will see that debt paid off. Instead of paying taxes, instead of those earned profits going to government and government subsidies (welfare, healthcare, etc.---non-productive purposes) those moneys can go to increasing wages and investment in the future. AND paying off debt.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:02:44   #
HedgeHog
 
Super Dave wrote:
Will they take a check?


"The Czech's in the male!"

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Feb 25, 2017 09:04:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
HedgeHog wrote:
The Wilsonian fallacy was that he believed that all peoples of the world were like Americans: self-reliant with a knowledge of what they wanted.

Americans more than any other people can not, and do not, kneel to any other. That is why, though they may not know it, people came to America. (In the past, anyway.)

The end result of Socialism/Communism is devotion (kneeling) to the state.


Right on. America has been used as a cash cow.
The Mooing and mooching has to be reversed. The cow is beyond skin and bones.

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Feb 25, 2017 09:29:03   #
HedgeHog
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Right on. America has been used as a cash cow.
The Mooing and mooching has to be reversed. The cow is beyond skin and bones.


How do you teach someone who has relied on others or the government for his living his whole life that he can take care of himself, and that in fact it is okay to do so? How?

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Feb 25, 2017 09:47:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Sorry.

I know that conservatives are supposed to be the war hawks but the wars of the 20th centruy were mostly intiatives from progressives; the world wars, Korea by Truman & Viet-Nam by Kennedy/Johnson. That stems from the Wilson distortion 'make the world safe for democracy.' I've regressed to the John Adams idea of function of wishing the world the best in its pursuit of democracy but being the stewards only of our own.

I think a reassessment of this entire matter is way overdue and Trump shows an inkling of moving in that direction. The Founding Fathers were very suspicious of standing armies due to the colonial experience.
Sorry. br br I know that conservatives are supp... (show quote)


One Clarification; JFK was going to try and stay out of Nam. Some believe it was one of the reasons he was taken out.
Johnson was the stooge that got us in Nam.

JFK Secret Societies Speech (full version)
https://youtu.be/zdMbmdFOvTs
Published on Oct 24, 2012
Was JFK's comment on "secret societies" a statement against the "NWO"? I searched this famous quote and finally found the full unedited written transcript and audio of this speech.

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