teaman

If I were a Catholic, which I am certainly not nor ever will be, I would leave the church over this idiot! By the way Catholics, you don't need a Pope.....PERIOD!!

Um… I’m not sure what world Pope Francis is living in, but he’s certainly not in touch with the current realities facing our planet today.

During a speech he delivered on Friday to a world meeting of populist movements, the Pope said that “Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist.”

The Pope then argued that terrorism is the result of income inequality more than religious fervor. Something that must surprise the uber-wealthy leaders of the Islamic terrorist movements.

“No people is criminal or drug-trafficking or violent. The poor and the poorer peoples are accused of violence yet, without equal opportunities, the different forms of aggression and conflict will find a fertile terrain for growth and will eventually explode.”

Finally the pope said that there is extremism in every religion and we shouldn’t blame Islam for Muslim terrorism (Sadly the pope forgets that while Islam and Christianity share a similar number of adherents, Islam contains millions of supporters of violent extremism, while in Christianity the numbers are negligible).

“There are fundamentalist and violent individuals in all peoples and religions—and with intolerant generalizations they become stronger because they feed on hate and xenophobia.”

Some have argued that the Pope was simply arguing that not all people who hold to these faiths, and Islam in particular, are terrorists. The problem with that train of thought is that NO ONE thinks that all adherents to any faith are terrorists. No, indeed what it sounds like the Pope was trying to express was that terrorists who claim to be Muslim are not actually practicing Islam. This is a favored refrain of liberals all over the world — that somehow the hundreds of thousands of Muslim terrorists are not actually practicing Islam properly.

Here’s the problem with this theory. While liberals (liberal Muslims included) may buy the hype that Islam is a “religion of peace,” that is simply not what the Koran itself teaches. Even more importantly, that is not what the life of Mohammed taught. This is vital because orthodox Islam teaches that Mohammed lived an ideal life from which Muslims today can build their lives off of. This is part of the reason that spousal abuse is allowed in Islam, child marriages are allowed, men are allowed to marry multiple wives, and violence against non-believers is also allowed.
Mohammed did all of these things, and because Islam teaches that he lived an “ideal” life, then his example is to be followed by all Muslims.

Which is why terrorism is endemic to those who follow the religion of Islam.

It is why Pope Francis is wrong and Muslim terrorism does most certainly exist.

During his lifetime, Mohammed built a kingdom that would become an empire and conquer half of the known world within just a few hundred years. He did this partially through proselytizing; he attempted to convert the surrounding tribes and nations to his religion. However, if they did not convert, he attacked them with his armies. Mohammed conquered and murdered thousands upon thousands of people simply because they would not convert to his religion.

Because Islam teaches that Mohammed lived the ideal life, all Muslims are cleared to follow his example. Hence, Islamic terrorism.

There is no similar theological correlation in Christianity or Judaism. Nowhere in either faith’s orthodoxy is it taught that the followers of those faiths can berate, rape, steal, or kill in the name of that faith. The tenet does not exist. In fact, Judaism doesn’t proselytize at all, and Christianity teaches that believers should be prepared for persecution and should always be ready to forgive. Neither faith ever gives permission for their adherents to use violence preemptively. Which is why acts of terrorism committed by Christians or Jews fall completely outside of thousands of years of orthodox teaching in both faiths.

The same cannot be said for Islam. Throughout the history of Islam, force and violence have always been acceptable tools to be used in the spread of the religion. ALWAYS.
Pope Francis is wrong. Again. Muslim terrorism most certainly exists, and it is an existential threat to Western civilization.

By the way, in the same speech Pope Francis later argued that global warming was a very real threat to our planet. He made sure to use the words “scientific consensus,” as he told his listeners that we should not “disregard the voice of Nature.” No wonder liberals love this pope, all he ever talks about is politics…

http://constitution.com/pope-francis-says-muslim-terrorism-not-exist/

Big Bass

The Catholic church has had troubles getting into the TWENTIETH century, let alone the twenty-first. This will not help their cause. Denial could be regarded as acquiescence.

teaman

I call it butt kissing islamic pukes who would take out the Catholic church in a heart beat just as they would Christians of another church. This isn't the first time Catholics have butt kissed islam and if you go back to WWII, they kissed a lot o Nazi butt as well!

Norwood

If he's right how many are in his house?????

Big Bass

You called it. It is also interfering with Trump, as I'm sure this is aimed squarely at his proposed immigration policies. If pope wishes to be involved in this way, then he MUST expect the government to become involved in the Catholic church.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

He denies the existence of a thing, then explains the reason for its existence.

Clearly he either isn't playing with a full deck, or a pawn performing badly.

pafret Loc: Northeast

This Pope is not the Catholic Church. He has been a severe disappointment in his liberal socialist progressive speeches. He like most of the left, is drinking the party line koolaide. I can believe he is one of the communists that infiltrated the church. This Pope will pass, the church will endure. The Moslem menace is too well known for any, to place any credence in his words. When they attack Vatican City and spray paint on the Sistine Chapel's ceiling he will begin to understand the nature of the beast, right before his head rolls down the steps.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I don't pay much attention to him but I have read that many people are leaving the Catholic Church because of him.

I wonder if there is a process through which the church can take down a Pope if it is determined he is detrimental to it in real terms.

pafret Loc: Northeast

A Pope can fall into heresy and the consensus is that he can be deposed by the same group that elected him. The gist of it is:

"The common opinion of theologians and canonists is that an heretical Pope can be deposed for the crime of heresy. The highly respected author, Arnaldo de Silveira, surveyed the writings of 136 theologians on this question (22), and found only one who taught the contrary. All other affirmed that if a Pope falls into heresy he can, and indeed should, be deposed."

There is an excellent exposition of this topic at this link:


https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1284-can-the-church-depose-an-heretical-pope

Incidentally, kissing the Koran is heresy.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Very interesting. Thank you.

It is a bit confusing to me how someone who is considered to be infallible can be guilty of behaving in a manner considered to be wrong, but I suppose that is due to my ignorance.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Can't stand this Pope. Gotta love a guy who lectures about immigration, giving to the poor and lives behind walls and is rich beyond belief.

atomikmom Loc: Burien, Washington

And he calls himself a Man of God? HUH!!!!!. I am a true God loving Christian Lady, and i know that our Holy Father will judge this Man, til the day he dies, and beyond. Muslim Terrorism does exist and always will as long as the Dark Side supports these Blood Thirsty Savages from Hell !!!!".As God is my Witness,, they will pay with their lives, forever and ever!!!. AMEN!!!I am not a Catholic, and never will i join. By the Power Invested in Me!! Satan be Gone!!!! AMEN!!AMEN!!!.

Radiance3

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Right, the Pope does not even know that all Christians in the Middle East and Africa, are now being annihilated by ISIS, Boko Haram, and other Radical Islam. Muslims chop off their heads, rape the women, burn them alive, including their children, burn their homes, take away their assets, and destroy all Christian antiquities to erase them from ancient history. Is the Pope so blind to know this? The Christians are the victims of massacre, why does the Pope did not ask Obama to accept the Christian refugees? Obama rejects Christians to enter the US.

13,210 Syrian Refugees So Far in 2016; Up 675% from 2015; 99.1% Are Muslims
By Patrick Goodenough | November 1, 2016 | 4:04 AM EDT

As a window dressing, Obama pretended to accept Christians. Here are the numbers.
Gross injustice': Of 10,000 Syrian refugees to the US, 56 are Christian. That is .0056% of 1%.
Adam Shaw By Adam Shaw Published September 02, 2016.

'Staggering': 680,000 Muslims to U.S. under Obama - WND.com.
The Pope even ignored that fact that Christians are raped and killed including children by Muslims.

Is the POPE A MUSLIM NOW? I hope he resigns and replaced by a true Pope who protects the Christians.
The Pope must understand that Muslims will never stop killing the Christians no matter how Christians treat them nicely.
Muslims commandment at the Quran is: Kill the infidels or non-believers if they don't convert. Read the Quran to believe what I am saying.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

And that's the problem. If he would just stick to the religious issues, his message would stand out and be much clearer. Instead, he feels the need to inject his socialistic tendencies into everything he says and that muddies the waters - a lot.

Putting it in plain English, what he says about religion and terrorism makes sense. Basically, there are no Muslim terrorists, but there are Muslim extremist terrorists. His assertion is that some Muslims have taken the ideology to the extreme, ignoring the less violent portions. This would suggest that Islam has somehow been 'hijacked' by a faction more intent on exercising political power than promoting religious piety. I would argue that this is an observable probability.

There are those who see it differently, who say that the Koran agitates for warfare and strife. That the world rightly belongs to Islam. When challenged, they deny that they are extremists, yet they ignore the less controversial portions of that same ideology. I would much prefer to remain ignorant of these issues but the threat is real and it could become existential. That is not easily passed over.

Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines

He is playing with a full deck most people cannot see that unless you are a pawn in Satan's game . I have him pegged as a false prophet . Any takers ? Please prove me incorrect . This is Texas truth command of quarters and defender of truth standing by awaiting the Christ . Over