Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Unfortunately you are correct. There is no reasoning with a cement block.

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

You are the one arguing "illegals" with only yourself. Frankly Doc, this appears to be a pattern for you. .

To quote by recollection, my second post here on this thread to another poster. Both you and HedgeHog seem unable to comprehend the difference between "illegal" and "refugee".

"Refugees do not receive Social Security and MediCare." As the poster had claimed that they do. Where in that, my statement, is the term "illegals"? Or "MedicAid" for that matter?

Now that you are enlightened, are you still going to insist in an argument with me here?. Because I'm arguing "refugees" here and not "illegals".

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

Yes, the truth does indeed have the characteristics of a "cement block" wall when idiocy butts up against it.

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

The point here is that MedicAid is distributed by the States. Whereas as MediCare is distributed through the Federal Government. That is the difference here. You can argue where the money originates with yourself all you want. It's kind of a moot point don't you think?

My state did not take the federal monies distributed for ObamaCare. So yes, a single person without children can not sign up for ObamaCare through the state MedicAid system, regardless of income.

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

You need to practice what you preach, adhoc. Here's a dose of your own medicine. A quick "look it up" google search. We all know Californication operates under it's own mindset of idiocy. Oh, and yes, the subject here, in my post to you here, is "illegals" and not "refugees". I hope I haven't confused you more here.


California State Immigration Laws - FindLaw

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration-laws-and-resources/california-state-immigration-laws.html


7 Ways Jerry Brown and California Democrats Embraced Illegal Aliens

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/california/2015/07/09/7-ways-jerry-brown-and-california-democrats-embraced-illegal-aliens/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us


California Takes A Step Further Toward Immigrant Integration - NBC News

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/amp/california-takes-step-further-toward-immigrant-integration-n565376?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

So you can't admit when you are wrong. Typical liberal.

News Flash: The money Obama used to support "refugees" in part came from Medicaid. He provided them medical care through the Medicaid component of Obamacare. Medicaid is federal tax money trickled down to the state level and administered by the state.

TAX MONEY! GET IT YET?

And CA spends $25.3 Billion dollars per year in illegals. Much of it is federal TAX MONEY.

Illegals AND refugees are being cared for with federal TAX MONEY.

And if you seriously think Medicare isn't being trapped for some if it, think harder.

Another News Flash: some are receiving soc sec benefits there also.

Try actually knowing what you are talking about.

Don't tell me about your state. Do you think only your state has illegals and refugees?

Try to.understand:

Medicaid is FEDERAL TAX MONEY. It is sent by the fed to the state where the individual programs are administered. That is why Medicaid fraud is a FEDERAL FELONY!

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

"Refugees do not receive Social Security and MediCare."

I have not refuted anything you are arguing in my statement. Again, you insist on arguing about "illegals". You are the one that keeps changing the perimeters of the argument. That makes you the NitWit desperately grasping for the 'win' in the argument. In all your ranting, not one site offered to solidify your argument. You only parrot what you have read or heard somewhere. That's pretty much what the MSM does to OUR President Trump.

In order for ANYONE to receive SSA/SSDI, they must have 10 years of work history. As for SSI, the rules are a little different. Again, SSI does not come from the same end-pot monies. You're argument about it all being "taxpayer" funded is a moot point in my argument.


Understanding Supplemental Security Income (SSI)-- SSI Eligibility

https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-eligibility-ussi.htm


Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-claims-power-make-illegal-immigrants-eligible-social-security

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

It is not 10 years. It is 40 qrtrs and they need not be in a row. There are two federal.programs that can provide benefits for disability that require no qrtrs. They are purely diagnosis and income based. They provide for, among other conditions, developmental disability. THEY ARE FEDERAL AND THEY ARE BEING TAPPED FOR REFUGEES. THEY NOT ONLY PROVIDE MEDICAL, THEY ALSO PROVIDE A MONTHLY CHECK.

Who do you think you're talking to? I QUALIFY patients for benefits. I KNOW THE LAW. I LIVE IT. All you know is what you read. I was one of the original consultants for the ACA and my team's report pointed out many of its flaws and predicted what is now happening. Don't try to get smart with me kid. I live this every day. I file reports and have access you don't even know exists and I'M TELLING YOU! YOU ARE WRONG.

Try to side step all you wish. You are ignoring the point which is tax money is being spent to provide for both illegals and refugees. Don't be obtuse. Where do you think the money comes from? Do you pay taxes? If so, it comes from your tax money.

$113 Billion per year just for illegals and the costs of refugees is still being calculated. It includes food, shelter, medical, legal services, cost of transporting them here, etc. Then the costs of settling them and setting up house hold. And more. Enormous costs. And in CA they ARE being given social security benefits and so are illegals. And it all comes from tax money. You don't know what you are talking about.

Perhaps you like paying for people here against our law or people who might want to slice off your head, BUT I DON'T.

I want OUR people, OUR citizens cared for first. If there is anything left over THEN we decide how to use it, but until then NO.

If you can be in favor of supporting these people and be able to look at.our own homeless, you are SICK.

The crime rate of these.people is horrendous. Over 800,000 criminal acts perpetrated by illegals and your refugees IN 2016 ALONE. And YOU want to care for them.

Take a few into your home.

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

WHEN DID I EVER SAY I "WANT TO CARE FOR THEM"? You muddy up the waters better than Progressive One, et al, here on OPP.

"Refugees do not receive Social Security and MediCare."

That is all I said. You on the otherhand seem to take issue with that statement. Why?

You are exploding for no apparent reason beyond some grudge you carry over some long ago (forgotten by me) postings here on OPP.
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I bet your husband says "Yes dear" alot.

vernon

from what you say i have a problem with your handling of the truth.