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Feb 20, 2017 22:19:25   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Rape has nothing to do with a woman's right to control her body--a woman has a right to an abortion no matter how she was impregnated. And who said anything about abortion being birth control? If they had used birth control she most likely wouldn't have needed an abortion.

And with regard to contraception--Colorado has been pushing contraception as much as they push pot and their abortion rates have dropped to among the lowest in the country. Amazing how effective contraception is in eliminating abortions....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html?_r=0
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Most abortions are done as a method of birth control. Very sad.

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Feb 20, 2017 22:54:42   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
peter11937 wrote:
It is sad that she had to suffer so. One I know had three, another two, but they still live 40 years later and are in relative good physical health. One cost me a lifetime friendship , the other caused a good employee to lose interest in the performance of her job....


Abortion is a tragedy at best. People need to treat it as such. McCorvey is an example we should all meditate on.

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Feb 21, 2017 01:35:20   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BigMike wrote:
All true...and yet, despite everything, God reached her where she was and she spent years trying to atone. She wasn't a waste. She's a testimony to God's ability to change people.


I hate the result of her lies, but not her. It is God's domain to judge and He will do as He decides no matter how I feel about it.

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Feb 21, 2017 02:38:57   #
Ricktloml
 
Docadhoc wrote:
What would your old priest say about abortion?

For you to deny that the responsible use of contraceptives and avoiding unwanted pregnancy is less preferable than abortion, says some things about you that are not good.

A dangerous medical procedure is easily avoided but you would rather deny common sense and favor putting the health of the woman in the back seat.

You are a hypocrite of the first magnitude and I have no use for anyone who puts politics ahead of human life. And you talk about the ACA and how it is important to so many people, but out of the other side of your mouth you advocate women placing themselves at unnecessary risk. You only know what you read and you read only what your side wants you to know. You actually have no idea how unknowledgeable so many of these women are. I do. I'm there picking up the pieces of their shattered lives when they realize what they have done. But to you, it isn't your problem so what's the big deal?

You try looking a 17 y.o. girl in the eye and tell her that 2 blocks from her home she could have gotten contraceptives for herself and/or boyfriend for free, but now she'll never be able to bear children. Or try telling a mother that her daughter will need care for 3 months because of the infection and you don't know how she'll do. Or tell another mom that her daughter is dead.

You go ahead and behave as if life has no value if it pleases you. I'm beginning to think yours may not be. Keep your reading to yourself. Live in it. That is the extent of your experience.
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Every time there is a suggestion that abortion clinics be inspected there is a world class fit thrown. The sorry truth is this BILLION dollar abortion industry doesn't provide much better care than the illegal so called back ally abortions, and women ARE injured and the baby is dead

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Feb 21, 2017 23:24:45   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, it's the woman's fault isn't it doc. If she had only shown restraint there would be no problems would there. As for the murder of 58 million being avoided by the use of contraceptives? My old Priest would completely disagree with that and say that the use of anything to interfere with pregnancy would be murder. I guess it is all in how you define murder isn't it. Now for the law. If you do manage to get RvW over turned, and you will probably need to replace Roberts and Kennedy to have a shot, it will only be overturned again when liberals gain control. Until then, women will do as they once did and get illegal abortions or go out of country. That will certainly make your kind happy but the fetus will end up just as dead. At least the abortion won't be counted will it doc so we can all stick our heads in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong...
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My.kind. The kind that values human life.

I don't care whose fault it is. The result is the reality. If you need to find fault you are sick. It takes 2. And either one could have avoided it. The reason the woman is in the equation is because IT IS HER BODY BEING CUT INTO. I'm getting tried of your attempts to swerve and change focus so knock it off. It isn't about fault. It's about the price being paid in terms of life and the remains of life.

Abortions are not the simple unobtrusive procedures you want them to be. They are invasive surgeries and carry the potentials and risks associated with surgery. They involve major blood vessels, the Round and Broad ligaments, and important neurology....some of which if damaged can result in.problems clearing the urinary tract and bowels to say nothing of the risk of hemorrhage and becoming septic. And death.

Every abortion should be the result of multiple examinations and conferencing with the physician who will.perform the procedure or refer the patient to the proper physician.

You don't walk into any facility, demand a tonsilectomy, and walk out an hour later sans tonsils. But you expect abortions, which have a much higher risk of complication sssociated, to be treated in this cavalier manner.

One of the reasons I have no use for your planned parenthood is that it has reduced abortion, in the minds of people like you, to nothing more than an "in and out" walk off the street operation that carries little risk and should be looked upon as nothing more than a convenience. So people like you harp about the woman's right to choose regarding her own body.

What you do in reality no matter how you spin or defend it, is support an industry based on death and you feel.totally irresponsible for the shattered life or death of the woman you say you are supporting.

You have no clue as to the reality. You read. Whoopee!

Go out to a few of these murder mills run by PP. Watch the women going in and coming out. Then go to some offices where these women are being counseled after they realize what they have done. Talk to them about how wonderful and needed PP is. Ask them how much pre procedure counseling they received there. Tell them how lucky they are to have PP in their area.

Then duck.

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