trucksterbud

This has been brewing a while, all started by a socialist dictator wannabe.... Remember O'Bamsters famous words, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Premiums will go down by an average of $2500 per year for a household..." Anybody remember those famous words coming out of the 'Liar in Cheifs' piehole...??

Then we were hit with the largest increase of healthcare premiums in the history of the country. But that is only part of the story. There is a much deeper and more troubling part of the story that is hidden largely from view, unless you have had direct interaction with the healthcare industry. Which, incidentally dovetails into the failed Obamacare picture for all to see what this monstrosity really is. A fraud on the American people, Highway Robbery, Extortion...

A friend and co-workers mother had a mild heart attack at home one day. She called her daughter complaining of chest pains, dizziness, so on. The daughter called 911 and dispatched emergency responders to her home. The ambulance crew picker her up and decided that the best thing was to fly this aged mom to Albuquerque from Farmington (about 180 miles or 1 hour 10 min flight by helicopter).. This they did, got the mom to the heart hospital in Albuquerque, got her heart back to normal - as much as possible for a 78 year old lady, and then sent her home.. The bill for all this....??

Emergency Air Ambulance charges - flight from Farmington to Albuquerque - $100,000
One day stay in Heart Hospital of NM - $52,000
Associated fees, administrative, next day follow up, etc. $12,000..... Total cost...?? $164,000.

A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THE 1000% MARKUP, HIGHWAY ROBBERY, EXTORTION AND FRAUD..

I don't know about you, but I can charter a chopper all day long for about $128 an hour, take myself to the emergency room, wait 4 hours and ( if I survive this far ) get some care FAR cheaper than this. Really, $164,000...?? This is beyond outrageous. Its outright EXTORTION, HIGHWAY ROBBERY, AND FRAUD ....!

Another example: An acquaintance's son, who is autistic, was having a mild seizure of some sort. So they called 911 for an ambulance. The ambulance showed up along with 2 cops. The son was in a sort of shock, didn't respond to commands by the ambulance crew or the cops. Soooo, the frikking cops shot him twice from close range with bean bags, seriously injuring this young man in the rib cage and side of the head. (Really, ?? the cops weren't smart enough to realize shooting a kid from close range with munitions bearing the force of a shotgun at close range would injure him..?? REALLY....?) To make matters worse, the cops then proceeded to club and beat this young boy nearly senseless - all in front of the horrified parents..

This incident made national headlines about 2 years ago on nationwide TV... You may remember this...

The ambulance crew then loaded the young boy (about 17 at the time) on the stretcher, tied down so tight that he could barely breathe, and took him to the hospital. At the hospital, the carnage continued. The hospital crew put this kid in triage, with all the hoses, tubes, monitors, etc. and wouldn't let the parents in the room. PERIOD..!! When the boy woke up later on, he went nuts, screaming for help, screaming for his parents and trying to rip out all the needles, monitors, etc. The hospital crew CHAINED HIM TO THE BED..!! (In all this, nobody from the hospital crew EVER asked the parents WHY this kid may be going off the deep end.) To make the long story short, the young man was nearly killed by all this, the parents traumatized, and the final bill for the debacle... $128,000... (Ya, the parents were made to pay for the cops mistakes, beating the kid half to death and subsequent necessary treatment) The bean bag blast actually fractured two ribs... Ya, $128,000 for the ambulance crew to show up, for the cops to beat the kid half to death, and the hospital staff to be complete inconsiderate jerks. (The parents did file lawsuits against the police dept for unnecessary force, the hospital staff for negligence and a host of other charges, which they eventually won)

The parents later revealed that their son was fine until at 7 years old, he got the required vaccines, and then started having problems. Mental disorientation, headaches, slurred speech, and that later turned into autism.. Ever hear of the dangers of vaccines laced with thimerasol (mercury based preservatives) and what it can cause..?? Well, here is a family that has been decimated by it.. Parents that watched in horror as their son went from fine to autistic. Powerless to stop it.. Just like when the cops were beating their son. Powerless to stop it..

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE 1000% MARKUP, EXTORTION, HIGHWAY ROBBERY AND FRAUD...

And these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. My personal doctor who I have been seeing for 28 years, won't even take ANY form of insurance. You pay as you go. He's an old fashioned type, country healer. Keeps it simple and cheap. Since I pay my own healthcare through him, why should I be forced to pay for health insurance which, as soon as the ACA showed up, went from $385 a month, to $583 a month, and as of Jan. 2017 now (if I would have kept it) is up to $760 a month. Ya, O' Bamster, your lies are really showing up now..!! Through a private insurance company (United Healthcare) my wife's health insurance would have gone up to $1295 a month. We dropped it last fall and she got a policy through the state assisted system for $428 a month. And that's the reality of it. The gov wants us ALL to be in the system, dependent on government for it all, be a slave and subject of the gov for it all..

For hidden in the pages of the Affordable Care Act are numerous and onerous regulations - your doctor (if he's a dickwad) can ask you all sorts of unnecessary and irrelevant questions. Like family health history.. (Hell, I don't even know mine) Family MENTAL HEALTH history... Do you have guns..? Have you ever thought of killing people...?? (Really..?) Do you abuse alcohol, do you use drugs..?? And on and on.

Its not just the 1000% Markup, Extortion, Fraud and Highway Robbery, its about SOCIETAL CONTROL... (Look it up)

Final answer - here's a link for any interested about the effects of this disaster, enacted by a socialist dictator wannabe, endorsed by his cronies in a lying deceitful congress, all of it coming out more and more day by day..

http://www.infowars.com/pro-obamacare-tweet-backfires-with-stories-of-insurance-nightmares/

And InfoWars isn't the only one. State of the Nation, Millenium Report, Drudge Report, Zero Hedge News - any site with a following is the same, becoming clogged to the point of unbelieveable with stories of -

THE 1000% MARKUP, EXTORTION, HIGHWAY ROBBERY AND FRAUD..... (Oh, ya lets not mention SOCIETAL CONTROL here..)

PeterS

How horrible. I had a stroke in 2010 and the 6 month stay in the hospital plus the year and a half rehab cost 1.5 million dollars--with a $2,000 a month residual fee in pharmaceuticals for life! Is that Obama's fault too? The only way to insure that prices go down is to go to a single payer system where completion is left out of the equation and government controls the prices we pay. Would you like to try that?

We've had the most expensive healthcare system in the world for decades so why are you crying about it now? Obamacare is on the way out and you conservative magicians are going to fix it so stop with the crying and start enjoying. Enjoy the delusion that you have the best healthcare in the world--the money you pay should at least give you a fantasy to hang onto...shouldn't it!!!

badbobby Loc: texas

yes costs for anything you have no control over are skyrocketing,not just obama care(although I agree,it's robbery)
but surely the 78 year old lady had medicare
and medicare would have cut the costs down
obama is gone now
lets keep him gone

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

One point to be taken is that Obamacare didn't lower costs.

trucksterbud

No, I don't live in a fantasy world. COMPETITION is the only answer. Not a single payer system, which is basically communism, extortion and fraud. This is why there are CANADIANS who come to America to get procedures done. Canada has a single payer system. Doctors are in short supply, and IF you can get an operation you might need, it will come 7 months to 2 years down the road. Should have checked some facts before you posted. And maybe FORCING the healthcare providers to substantiate their outrageous billing.

Case in point: Wife had heart arrhythmia from arguing with her former boss too much. She went to the hospital for an answer. They did this test. She wanted to leave. They said "Well, we can perform another test. Don't you want to know for sure..??" (Insert hand wringing and tears here, so the hospital and staff can jack up the price.) She said okay. They did another test. Nothing wrong. She wanted to leave. They said "Well, we can perform another test. Don't you want to know for sure..??" (Insert hand wringing and tears here, so the hospital and staff can jack up the price.) So they did another test. Nothing wrong. She wanted to leave. They said "Well, we can perform another test. Don't you want to know for sure..??" (Insert hand wringing and tears here, so the hospital and staff can jack up the price.) All said and done, 7 tests in 3 days, total price - $10,800. I saw the bill and said "Ya, that's gonna happen. Sent the hospital and staff a big fat middle finger by phone. Said we aren't going to pay this extortion." They said "Okay, can you afford $380 cash...??" (We didn't have health ins at the time) Long story short, out of a $10,800 bill, we paid $380. Soooo, where is the fantasy world at when I can vouch for the fact that the hospitals and staff do everything they can to pull the 1000% markup. I've seen it with my own two eyes. Dealt with it myself. Do better than that okay..??

trucksterbud

Oh, I'm sure that medicare or something did help pay the bill. My point was - seriously, $100,000 for a helicopter ride for 180 mi..?? $52,000 for a one day stay in the Heart Hospital of NM..?? Seriously..? This is akin to the gov paying $30,000 for a toilet seat in Air Force 1, or paying $25,000 for a claw hammer you can buy at the hardware store for $15.00. IT IS EXTORTION, HIGHWAY ROBBERY AND FRAUD....!

emarine

IT IS EXTORTION, HIGHWAY ROBBERY AND FRAUD....! or free market capitalism gone astray?... there is no place for out of control profits over the basic wellbeing of people... not in a first world country

Weaver

Insurance can't fix the problem when insurance is the problem. That comes back to the fact that government is the problem. Government controls health care be it fed or states. Doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and drug companies control government. If no one could afford the expensive drugs, hospitals and helicopter rides they would not be as expensive. In the 60's ,without insurance, my Dr. charged $6.00 for a visit. My experience, insurance does'nt care what it cost as long as they can raise premiums . And it goes up and up.

badbobby Loc: texas

QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country

So.... Societal control isn't an issue for you?

emarine

Tuesday's earnings report says full-year 2015 earnings from operations for UnitedHealthcare — $6.8 billion — fell $238 million from the previous year, driven by $720 million in losses related to "individual exchange-compliant insurance business."Jan 19, 2016

I wish I made 6.8 billion a year after all expense's... from the numbers above it looks like they had to pay claims that in the past they didn't... & that's why they want to charge more... the ACA changed the rules...health insurance company's actually had to pay out health related claims for a change...6.8 billion dollar profit ... they are trying to say that that's not enough so they will raise your rates 25 to 50%... this sounds a bit greedy to me... I wonder what the CEO got paid in 2015?... he only made 66 million in 2014...poor fella...

trucksterbud

Ya, your final point hits the nail on the head...