I don't know enough about what you are saying to know whether I disagree with you or not. But this is certainly an interesting post. I do agree that liberal or conservative doesn't have a lot of meaning. I do think also that for the most part people who go into politics are narcissistic amorals who don't care about anything but power. And those who do care are often gotten rid of by one dishonest means or another. I think too we have to have a better understanding of what the founding fathers were really saying to us about the threat that not only existed then, but exists now, from the elite who never stop, and never tire, of destroying any form of democracy or freedom. We need to understand they existed not only then, but now. And several of our founding fathers were pretty well convinced that the Republic would not last long due to the forces of tyranny that existed not only at that time but now. And even they realized that, as unfortunate as it might be, the public had to be lied to at times because they could not understand all that was going on in the world

We have now reached a threshold, where it is almost inevitable that a civil war should come, because certain control freaks will never, ever, leave us alone and allow us to control our own destiny. While I think for the most part these control freaks operate on the left, as liberals, they are everywhere, and the public does not have access to good information about how this war is being fought, or even who is on which side.

Here's a liberal response for ya...How do you know its not fake news? Or do you just believe what your evangelical leaders ( Graham, Land, etc ) tell you what to believe. 75% of Christian evangelicals disapproved of trump before he got the nomination. After he was nominateded, 75% approved of him. It is not your fault that you are so easily lead and manipulated. You are honest people who expect to be treated honestly yourselves...that makes you gullible. Do you really believe the FBI would release that information even if they had it. Comey learned that lesson with Wiener's emails. And the CIA will not share files with anyone, especially now...for reasons that should be obvious even if you believe fake news. So we will all have to wait and see what the truth reveals. Otherwise...go fuck yourselves.

True, because he enjoys stirring the pot for reaction more than position...

I'm not speaking behind his back I've said thisvdirectly to him.. he replies with a little something along with the and I know he is admitting it...

Also Hedge I must say he has always been respectful to me... he gives and gets a lot of negative but again it's more for reaction~~》pushing buttons...

Listen to some of his music and really see the man... That universal language you know...