HedgeHog

We're sending you over to Palestine to help. You can do a lot more over there than you can over here. Like being part of a human shield used by Hamas.

payne1000

Hamas is an agent of Israel.
They need no human shields.
Hamas tells Israel where to bomb in order to kill the most women and children.
Israel prefers to kill women and children. That's their method of Arab population control.

HedgeHog

Oh.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

Give it up already.
You just are not getting it are you
Everyone here is a Zionist tool.

Tend to your girlfriend.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

'Even the Koran Claims Israel Belongs to the Jews'
Middle East expert discusses new book with Arutz Sheva that proves Islam's claims to Israel are false - even by their own standards.

Jordanian Sheikh: Israel Belongs to the Jews!
Sheikh Ahmed Aladoan of Amman, a member of Jordan’s well-known Adwan tribe, posted to Facebook this week that there is no such place as “Palestine,” and provided references from the Koran to back up his assertion.

One of the Koranic verses provided states that Allah gave the Holy Land to the sons of Israel until the Day of Judgment (Surah Al-Ma’ida, verse 21), and the other (Surah Al-Shara’a, verse 59) says that the land was bequeathed to the Jews.

Qur'an: God gave the Land of Israel to the Jews !

Israel's Right to the Land
A skillful presentation by U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) on the Senate floor, March 4, 2002.

payne1000

This is who really works to sell that ridiculous lie:

payne1000

Your girlfriend lives in the sewer.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

If you ever intend to have any credibility whatsoever, you need to do the following:

* Show verifiable historical proof that the Palestinians are an ancient culture. (Among many proofs needed, archeological evidence will be most convincing--at present none exists.)

* Show verifiable historical proof that the Palestinians have a legitimate right to the Land of Israel. (This proof must predate that of the Jews, and it must be documented with something other than the anti-Semitic propaganda that is your only reference.)

* Show verifiable historical proof of where and when the Jews originated.


Arab cleric: Israel belongs to the Jews

Sheikh Ahmed Aladoan of Amman, a member of Jordan’s well-known Adwan tribe, posted to Facebook this week that there is no such place as “Palestine,” and provided references from the Koran to back up his assertion.

One of the Quranic verses provided states that Allah gave the Holy Land to the sons of Israel until the Day of Judgment (Surah Al-Ma’ida, verse 21), and the other (Surah Al-Shara’a, verse 59) says that the land was bequeathed to the Jews.

The sheikh turned to those who “distort the words of the Koran,” whom he labeled as liars, and questioned where they had even come up with the name “Palestine.” He insisted their claims to the Land of Israel were forfeit because “Allah is the protector of the Children of Israel.”

And if that wasn’t enough, the sheikh went on to turn the tables on the anti-Israel propaganda machine by accusing the Palestinians of killing children, the elderly and women, of using human shields, and of having not an ounce of mercy for even their own children.

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The sheikh’s words caused a storm in the Arab media, and were picked up by the Israeli Embassy in Amman.

The Arabic daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi further explained the sheikh’s position, noting that he supports the notion that Jordan is Palestine, and insists that Arabs living both in Jordan and the Palestinian Authority-controlled territories would almost all love to be Israeli citizens.

The Adwan tribe issued a statement distancing itself from Sheikh Aladoan’s remarks. But the sheikh was not intimidated, and insisted he would continue to make his voice heard on these matters.

Last year, Sheikh Aladoan visited Israel and spent time with the chief rabbi of Tsfat (Safed), Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu. The sheikh informed Rabbi Eliyahu and his students that in the Koran, “there is no name ‘Palestine’ for this land, and therefore, the Arabs should not be fighting the Jews over control of this land.”

FYI: Sheikh Aladoan is not a Zionist propagandist by any stretch.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Israel : Brief History of Israel and the Jewish People

Written by: Israel Hanukoglu, Ph.D.

Quote from Charles Krauthammer - The Weekly Standard, May 11, 1998

"Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store."

The people of Israel (also called the "Jewish People") trace their origin to Abraham, who established the belief that there is only one God, the creator of the universe (see Torah). Abraham, his son Yitshak (Isaac), and grandson Jacob (Israel), are referred to as the patriarchs of the Israelites. All three patriarchs lived in the Land of Canaan, that later came to be known as the Land of Israel. They and their wives are buried in the Ma'arat HaMachpela, the Tomb of the Patriarchs, in Hebron (Genesis Chapter 23).

The name Israel derives from the name given to Jacob (Genesis 32:29). His 12 sons were the kernels of 12 tribes that later developed into the Jewish nation. The name Jew derives from Yehuda (Judah) one of the 12 sons of Jacob (Reuben, Shimon, Levi, Yehuda, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Yisachar, Zevulun, Yosef, Binyamin)(Exodus 1:1). So, the names Israel, Israeli or Jewish refer to people of the same origin.

The descendants of Abraham crystallized into a nation at about 1300 BCE after their Exodus from Egypt under the leadership of Moses (Moshe in Hebrew). Soon after the Exodus, Moses transmitted to the people of this new emerging nation, the Torah, and the Ten Commandments (Exodus Chapter 20). After 40 years in the Sinai desert, Moses led them to the Land of Israel, that is cited in The Bible as the land promised by G-d to the descendants of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Genesis 17:8).

The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham (ca. 1800 BCE). Thus, Jews have had continuous presence in the land of Israel for the past 3,300 years.

The rule of Israelites in the land of Israel starts with the conquests of Joshua (ca. 1250 BCE). The period from 1000-587 BCE is known as the "Period of the Kings". The most noteworthy kings were King David (1010-970 BCE), who made Jerusalem the Capital of Israel, and his son Solomon (Shlomo, 970-931 BCE), who built the first Temple in Jerusalem as prescribed in the Tanach (Old Testament).

In 587 BCE, Babylonian Nebuchadnezzar's army captured Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and exiled the Jews to Babylon (modern day Iraq).

The year 587 BCE marks a turning point in the history of the region. From this year onwards, the region was ruled or controlled by a succession of superpower empires of the time in the following order: Babylonian, Persian, Greek Hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine Empires, Islamic and Christian crusaders, Ottoman Empire, and the British Empire.

payne1000

In order to prove you're not a Zionist propagandist, all you have to do is reveal your identity.
There's no valid reason to keep your identity hidden unless you're a shill.

emarine

Well now you did it again putz... I was just reading along minding my own business and laughing at your lack of an intelligent word in your reply's and you had to involve me... Haven't you figured out that there are no Palestinian's... they are Arabs from the surrounding country's that are trapped for Islamic political gains... I have proved to you many times that Hamas are neo Nazi terrorists who don't give a rats ass for the people trapped in Gaza... for Hamas are their captors trapping them by fear... while brainwashing the young for perpetual war with Israel... Its past time for the world to stop watching this lunacy and put down all the neo Nazi terrorists on the planet starting with Palestine and free the Arabs in Gaza...only then there can be a two state solution where Gaza is the paradise it should be... Its the Nazi bastards like you payne that fuck up this planet...how do you sleep at night putz?

pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ

What you are referring to is "organised religion" of which in a sense is the curse of the world I myself as many others believe in the one god of the universe. We are referred to as "Deists" in that we believe in a single God without the watering down by self serving so called religious factions. If this you, welcome to the club !

payne1000

It's the worse than Nazi Zionists such as yourself who are responsible for most of the turmoil in the world today.
You haven't proved anything on this forum. One who repeatedly refuses to identify himself has no credibility.
Haven't you heard? Trump is agreeable to a one-state solution. That would result in Arabs being second-class citizens with few rights.
It would mean that Israel has admitted to being an apartheid state.
Let me ask you for the 50th time, do you have the guts to insult me using your real name?
Refusing to answer at all indicates you are a yellow-bellied coward.

payne1000

Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were thought to have been deists. It's certainly better than organized religion which believes in a vindictive God. What has the Deist God done for humanity lately?

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

STFU Up with your constant never freakin stopping asking or more pointedly demanding personal names to validate others beliefs and or opinions. What nation do you live in ? In America very very few outside of flat out nut cases are stupid enough to do so. Why would anyone give a paid troll any personal data on this Internet community . You are merely using this ignorant excuse to make any exceptence of others opinions SOMEHOW impossible for your acknowledgement . You pea brained moron. That dog don't hunt asshole.

Now . Run along and tend to your flock of lady friends.