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Mar 20, 2017 06:23:18   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
emarine wrote:
That wasn't the suns reflection... it was Nano thermite flashbacks making Barry appear bald... its like an X ray... it's somewhere on You Tube I'm sure...


Maybe the nanothermite blew his hair off?

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Mar 20, 2017 08:53:55   #
payne1000
 
amadjuster wrote:
Maybe the nanothermite blew his hair off?



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Mar 20, 2017 09:36:15   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Larry "the Rat Pornagrapher" Payne. You told us you were a photographer.

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Mar 20, 2017 09:56:37   #
saltwind78
 
nazi boy, The Palestinians are fast losing any chance of getting a state, and they have nobody to blame but themselves! They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
payne1000 wrote:
Frontpage Magazine is a Zionist propaganda rag owned by David Horowitz.
Even the Jewish website Tablet disses Horowitz.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/98401/david-horowitz

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Mar 20, 2017 10:32:41   #
payne1000
 
amadjuster wrote:
Larry "the Rat Pornagrapher" Payne. You told us you were a photographer.


Sorry, someone else snapped that one while you were busy doing your thing.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:34:54   #
payne1000
 
saltwind78 wrote:
nazi boy, The Palestinians are fast losing any chance of getting a state, and they have nobody to blame but themselves! They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.



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Mar 20, 2017 11:17:28   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Being shackled by a lying agenda must appeal to you.
Patriotic Americans prefer to think for themselves.
You're not a patriotic American.



So what's the problem here putz?...you think that you have a monopoly on crazy?... I can do crazy just like you... only difference here is that I'm used to your crazy... seems that you're posting rats again... proof positive of having no argument ... unlike you... I have no agenda... I just dislike neo Nazi propaganda putz's... and I think that's very patriotic...Nazi's of any kind are a clear danger to freedom...

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Mar 20, 2017 14:16:59   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
So what's the problem here putz?...you think that you have a monopoly on crazy?... I can do crazy just like you... only difference here is that I'm used to your crazy... seems that you're posting rats again... proof positive of having no argument ... unlike you... I have no agenda... I just dislike neo Nazi propaganda putz's... and I think that's very patriotic...Nazi's of any kind are a clear danger to freedom...


You demonstrate once again that you don't have the guts to post your false accusations against me using your real name.
How does it feel to be such a despicable coward?

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Mar 20, 2017 14:34:51   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You demonstrate once again that you don't have the guts to post your false accusations against me using your real name.
How does it feel to be such a despicable coward?




You demonstrate once again that you don't have the smarts to learn basic physics... your real problem is with Newton not me... get over it already & learn something useful rather than neo Nazi bullshit...

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Mar 20, 2017 15:37:54   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You demonstrate once again that you don't have the smarts to learn basic physics... your real problem is with Newton not me... get over it already & learn something useful rather than neo Nazi bullshit...


Newton's laws and the laws of physics both agree that this building is being brought down with explosives.
Only anonymous Judeo-Nazi shills say otherwise.



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Mar 20, 2017 16:17:56   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Newton's laws and the laws of physics both agree that this building is being brought down with explosives.
Only anonymous Judeo-Nazi shills say otherwise.



The funny part of all this is... you're so clueless that your claim of explosions are asinine... you need to say chemical explosions to support your claim putz...your entire argument is based on ignorance... you failed to get my volcano hint dipstick.... it must really suck to be you putz...

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Mar 20, 2017 17:06:57   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
The funny part of all this is... you're so clueless that your claim of explosions are asinine... you need to say chemical explosions to support your claim putz...your entire argument is based on ignorance... you failed to get my volcano hint dipstick.... it must really suck to be you putz...


You have no defense of what the photo reveals, so all you can do is make a play with terms which should be understood.
Whether it's a chemical explosion or a natural volcanic explosion, they both create the same type of debris clouds which are made up of dust, debris and hot gasses.
You constantly make statements without supplying anything to back them up.
And you refuse to back up anything you post with your real identity.
My name is Larry Payne. What's yours?

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Mar 20, 2017 17:38:59   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
No one has ever questioned whether Jennings was a credible witness.
The hell you say? Jennings gave his account to conspiracy nut, Dylan Avery, SIX years after the event. Why did he not come forward when everything was fresh in his mind? Did Jennings choose a 9/11 conspiracy loon to talk to? Or, did the conspiracy loon, Avery, make Jennings an offer he couldn't refuse?

In any case, a six year delay between an event and telling about it does not a credible witness make. Investigators, detectives, and police officers generally agree that within 48 hours, a witness' recollection of critical points begins to diminish. There is a marked difference between the memory of an eyewitness (someone who saw it happen) and a victim (someone who experienced it happen) Barry Jennings was a victim. Unlike an eyewitness, a victim is subject to emotional and psychological problems following a traumatic experience. Such as: Post traumatic stress disorder, Psychogenic amnesia, and Mood-congruency effect. These can, and generally do, have a negative effect on memory recall, they can confuse, even alter considerably, the recollection of events.


WTC 7 and the Barry Jennings Story

Barry Jennings worked for the Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing Authority. On September 11th 2001 he was among the personnel called up to staff the Emergency Operations Center (EOC) inside the Office of Emergency Management (OEM) on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7). When WTC 1 collapsed he was trapped on the 8th floor together with the New York City’s Corporation Consul Michael Hess. After some time they were rescued by firefighters who brought them out of the building.

In 2007 Barry Jennings was interviewed by the well-known conspiracy theorists Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas about his experience inside WTC 7. In the interview Barry Jennings gives an honest account of the events that he experienced inside WTC 7. The only problem with the interview is that Barry Jennings had placed the events he experienced that day into a faulty timeline, a simple and understandable mistake by Barry Jennings when he attempted make sense of his experiences in the aftermath. This is something that should be quit obvious to anyone looking into what happened at the World Trade Center that day. But because of the faulty timeline and a few parts of the interview that it is possible to misrepresent, Barry Jennings ends up as the centerpiece in the conspiracy theories surrounding the collapse of WTC 7. Sadly enough this controversy must surly have clouded his last remaining living year. Barry Jennings died on august 19th 2008. True to form Dylan Avery and other conspiracy theorists immediately added his death to their delusional conspiracy theories, implying that Barry Jennings must have been murdered because he knew too much. One of the big issues for the conspiracy theorists was that they could not find his obituary. But his obituary appeared in the October issue of NYCHA Employee Bulletin, a bimonthly publication.

The full uncut interview with Barry Jennings can be seen here on YouTube; together with a short interview Barry Jennings gave to ABC7 on September 11th 2001 shortly after he got out of WTC7: Barry Jennings Interviews (WABC-TV, 2001 / LTW, 2007)
Controversies

In the interview Barry Jennings makes the following claims that seems to contradict the established narrative of what happened in and around WTC 7 that day:

That he and Michael Hess arrived in the Emergency Operations Center on the 23rd floor before Flight 175 hit WTC 2.

That the EOC was empty when they arrived there.

That they experienced an explosion inside WTC 7 that trapped them on floor 8th before either WTC 1 and WTC 2 had collapsed.

That he could see both WTC 1 and WTC 2 standing from the 8th floor inside WTC 7.

That he could see burning buses and police cars outside WTC 7 from the 8th floor before either WTC 1 and WTC 2 had collapsed

That he heard explosions while he was trapped on the 8th floor.

That WTC 2 and WTC 1 collapsed while they were trapped on floor 8th.

That the lobby of WTC 7 looked like King Kong had walked through it.

That he believed it felt like he stepped on dead bodies when he was rescued out of WTC 7.

The claim that the mayor Rudy Giuliani had been in WTC 7 before Barry Jennings arrived before Flight 175 hit WTC 2

Taken at face value the interview seems to contain several controversial statements compared to the well established facts of September 11th, as reported in mainstream media, witness accounts, the NIST reports, the 9/11 Commission report and other reports and studies. But a closer look at the claims made by Barry Jennings and the events he describes in the interview makes it very obvious that Barry Jennings timeline is wrong. The interview contains more than enough information to create a corrected timeline of the events described by Barry Jennings in the interview. In the table below is the corrected timeline of Barry Jennings account.

08:46 Flight 11 hits WTC 1

08:46 – 09:03 Office workers begins to evacuate WTC 7. Activation of the EOC. Barry Jennings on his way to work is called and asked to go to the EOC. This could also have occurred after 09:03.

09:03 Flight 175 hits WTC 2

09:03 – 09:32 General evacuation of the building by all office workers

09:32 – 09:44 Evacuation of the OEM and EOC after it is being reported that a possible third plane is approaching

09:44 – 09:59 Barry Jennings and Michael Hess arrive in the EOC on floor 23. The EOC is empty.

09:59 WTC 2 collapses: WTC 7 Shakes, Michael Hess notes in an interview of power failure that shuts down the elevators.

09:59 – 10:28 Remaining personnel evacuates the building including the EMS triage center established in the loading dock on the ground floor. Barry Jennings makes phonecalls to find out what is going on. Told on the phone to leave the building. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess evacuates down the east stairwell of WTC 7.

10:28 WTC 1 collapses. Large sections of WTC1 debris hits the south face of WTC 7 causing extensive damage to building. Burning debris from WTC 1 starts fires on several floors. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess on floor 6 in the stairwell: The building shakes and the stairwell fills with dust and smoke. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess forced back to 8th floor.

10:28 – 11:59 Evacuation of a WTC 7 security officer trapped on floor 7. Jennings and Hess breaks window on floor 8 and calls for help. Jennings and Hess evacuated by firefighters around noon.

05:21 WTC 7 collapses


Here we see heavy smoke billowing from every floor of WTC 7. Ask any firefighter what he thinks this might indicate. (This is a view of the SE corner. A close look at the photo reveals damage in the building to the left of WTC 7, and some indication that something struck WTC 7 near the top floors at the SE corner.)



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Mar 20, 2017 18:04:33   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The hell you say? Jennings gave his account to conspiracy nut, Dylan Avery, SIX years after the event. Why did he not come forward when everything was fresh in his mind? Did Jennings choose a 9/11 conspiracy loon to talk to? Or, did the conspiracy loon, Avery, make Jennings an offer he couldn't refuse?

In any case, a six year delay between an event and telling about it does not a credible witness make. Investigators, detectives, and police officers generally agree that within 48 hours, a witness' recollection of critical points begins to diminish. There is a marked difference between the memory of an eyewitness (someone who saw it happen) and a victim (someone who experienced it happen) Barry Jennings was a victim. Unlike an eyewitness, a victim is subject to emotional and psychological problems following a traumatic experience. Such as: Post traumatic stress disorder, Psychogenic amnesia, and Mood-congruency effect. These can, and generally do, have a negative effect on memory recall, they can confuse, even alter considerably, the recollection of events.


WTC 7 and the Barry Jennings Story

Barry Jennings worked for the Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing Authority. On September 11th 2001 he was among the personnel called up to staff the Emergency Operations Center (EOC) inside the Office of Emergency Management (OEM) on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7). When WTC 1 collapsed he was trapped on the 8th floor together with the New York City’s Corporation Consul Michael Hess. After some time they were rescued by firefighters who brought them out of the building.

In 2007 Barry Jennings was interviewed by the well-known conspiracy theorists Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas about his experience inside WTC 7. In the interview Barry Jennings gives an honest account of the events that he experienced inside WTC 7. The only problem with the interview is that Barry Jennings had placed the events he experienced that day into a faulty timeline, a simple and understandable mistake by Barry Jennings when he attempted make sense of his experiences in the aftermath. This is something that should be quit obvious to anyone looking into what happened at the World Trade Center that day. But because of the faulty timeline and a few parts of the interview that it is possible to misrepresent, Barry Jennings ends up as the centerpiece in the conspiracy theories surrounding the collapse of WTC 7. Sadly enough this controversy must surly have clouded his last remaining living year. Barry Jennings died on august 19th 2008. True to form Dylan Avery and other conspiracy theorists immediately added his death to their delusional conspiracy theories, implying that Barry Jennings must have been murdered because he knew too much. One of the big issues for the conspiracy theorists was that they could not find his obituary. But his obituary appeared in the October issue of NYCHA Employee Bulletin, a bimonthly publication.

The full uncut interview with Barry Jennings can be seen here on YouTube; together with a short interview Barry Jennings gave to ABC7 on September 11th 2001 shortly after he got out of WTC7: Barry Jennings Interviews (WABC-TV, 2001 / LTW, 2007)
Controversies

In the interview Barry Jennings makes the following claims that seems to contradict the established narrative of what happened in and around WTC 7 that day:

That he and Michael Hess arrived in the Emergency Operations Center on the 23rd floor before Flight 175 hit WTC 2.

That the EOC was empty when they arrived there.

That they experienced an explosion inside WTC 7 that trapped them on floor 8th before either WTC 1 and WTC 2 had collapsed.

That he could see both WTC 1 and WTC 2 standing from the 8th floor inside WTC 7.

That he could see burning buses and police cars outside WTC 7 from the 8th floor before either WTC 1 and WTC 2 had collapsed

That he heard explosions while he was trapped on the 8th floor.

That WTC 2 and WTC 1 collapsed while they were trapped on floor 8th.

That the lobby of WTC 7 looked like King Kong had walked through it.

That he believed it felt like he stepped on dead bodies when he was rescued out of WTC 7.

The claim that the mayor Rudy Giuliani had been in WTC 7 before Barry Jennings arrived before Flight 175 hit WTC 2

Taken at face value the interview seems to contain several controversial statements compared to the well established facts of September 11th, as reported in mainstream media, witness accounts, the NIST reports, the 9/11 Commission report and other reports and studies. But a closer look at the claims made by Barry Jennings and the events he describes in the interview makes it very obvious that Barry Jennings timeline is wrong. The interview contains more than enough information to create a corrected timeline of the events described by Barry Jennings in the interview. In the table below is the corrected timeline of Barry Jennings account.

08:46 Flight 11 hits WTC 1

08:46 – 09:03 Office workers begins to evacuate WTC 7. Activation of the EOC. Barry Jennings on his way to work is called and asked to go to the EOC. This could also have occurred after 09:03.

09:03 Flight 175 hits WTC 2

09:03 – 09:32 General evacuation of the building by all office workers

09:32 – 09:44 Evacuation of the OEM and EOC after it is being reported that a possible third plane is approaching

09:44 – 09:59 Barry Jennings and Michael Hess arrive in the EOC on floor 23. The EOC is empty.

09:59 WTC 2 collapses: WTC 7 Shakes, Michael Hess notes in an interview of power failure that shuts down the elevators.

09:59 – 10:28 Remaining personnel evacuates the building including the EMS triage center established in the loading dock on the ground floor. Barry Jennings makes phonecalls to find out what is going on. Told on the phone to leave the building. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess evacuates down the east stairwell of WTC 7.

10:28 WTC 1 collapses. Large sections of WTC1 debris hits the south face of WTC 7 causing extensive damage to building. Burning debris from WTC 1 starts fires on several floors. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess on floor 6 in the stairwell: The building shakes and the stairwell fills with dust and smoke. Barry Jennings and Michael Hess forced back to 8th floor.

10:28 – 11:59 Evacuation of a WTC 7 security officer trapped on floor 7. Jennings and Hess breaks window on floor 8 and calls for help. Jennings and Hess evacuated by firefighters around noon.

05:21 WTC 7 collapses


Here we see heavy smoke billowing from every floor of WTC 7. Ask any firefighter what he thinks this might indicate. (This is a view of the SE corner. A close look at the photo reveals damage in the building to the left of WTC 7, and some indication that something struck WTC 7 near the top floors at the SE corner.)
The hell you say? Jennings gave his account to con... (show quote)


As usual you don't give credit or the source for your latest plagiarism.
Here it is: https://septembermyths.wordpress.com/world-trade-center/wtc-7-and-the-barry-jennings-story/
As usual the author of your plagiarized article does not give his name.
Like you, he doesn't want his name to be associated with the lies he posts.
Here's Jennings interview on the morning of 9/11 when what he experienced was fresh on his mind.
The fireman accompanying him backs up his account thoroughly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LO5V2CJpzI

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Mar 20, 2017 18:40:42   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
payne1000 wrote:
You have no defense of what the photo reveals, so all you can do is make a play with terms which should be understood.
Whether it's a chemical explosion or a natural volcanic explosion, they both create the same type of debris clouds which are made up of dust, debris and hot gasses.
You constantly make statements without supplying anything to back them up.
And you refuse to back up anything you post with your real identity.
My name is Larry Payne. What's yours?


So does a popcorn fart. So what.

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