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“This Will ONLY End In Bloodshed: Biggest Spike In Civil Unrest In American History”
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Feb 15, 2017 13:10:40   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Nope, wasn't mistaken.


http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/28/news/economy/obama-oil-boom/

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Feb 15, 2017 13:12:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
the waker wrote:
You sure that wasn't the last Administration doing things for Wall Street, and Russia?
The 1% got richer, and the middle Class got to pay for ObamaCare (the intrusive goverment take over of healthcare)

Who was it that voted for Trump?
Working class America?
If I'm not mistaken, the Oil industry did pretty good too.




Waker,


I can not believe you posted this... do you read the papers?

Do you know about the EOs trump signed?

I have been having a problem finding anyone who will admit to voting for trump...

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Feb 15, 2017 13:13:26   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
pafret wrote:
If you read my post, I was talking about being attacked by "protestors". Assault is not protest, suppression of others rights to have different views is not protest. The right isn't gob-smacked as you put it, they expect the same civility that was extended to Obama. You can vilify Trump all you want, you can dislike what the right says as much as you please but when you resort to force and coercion you will find that gob smacking works both ways. Killing isn't the solution, it is the response to attempted murder by the "peaceful" protesters.
If you read my post, I was talking about being att... (show quote)


Is it terrorism? Who was attacked: the police? Or people who disagreed with the protestors. Did the police provoke the attack? There are no police reports from the UC or Berkeley Police Department. Sounds like everyone wants to make a mountain out of molehill.

There isn't any information from the protestors who were arrested and posted anywhere to read. No tweets, no follow-up stories from any media outlets. Just rumors and accusations from people who weren't there.

Eventually, the white house is going to turn this into the Berkeley Massacre instead of a protest. No one was killed, so it was a protest. Property damage aside (which I have not found any evidence of it either) is a protest.

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Feb 15, 2017 13:17:16   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
permafrost wrote:
Waker,


I can not believe you posted this... do you read the papers?

Do you know about the EOs trump signed?

I have been having a problem finding anyone who will admit to voting for trump...




I voted for him, considering the alternative, I'd do it again.
If the left doesn't like the result, don't fix your Primaries.

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Feb 15, 2017 13:19:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
the waker wrote:
I voted for him, considering the alternative, I'd do it again.
If the left doesn't like the result, don't fix your Primaries.





Your last line reflects some of why I have such PO attitude.. Damn, dems..

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Feb 15, 2017 13:20:03   #
S. Maturin
 
working class stiff wrote:
I am also curious what 'rioting' is happening now?

Civil unrest and rioting are wholly different matters. Demonstrations and protests are protected speech and as long as the proper permits are granted, there is nothing 'riotous' going on. We just had a pretty large protest (by my city's standards) but it was all done peacefully and legally. There's a lot of resistance and by TEA party approved tactics, in the case of shouting at town hall meetings.

Seeing bloodshed as the outcome is a case of projection. I'm seeing political business as usual...one side pretending the doesn't matter. It seems the right is gobsmacked that the past didn't just disappear, and we didn't go back to some better time. A lot of the country approved of Mr. Obama's time in office and it's not going to just melt away. The threatened bloodshed is going to come from the right as they try to beat liberalism out of the country. It's never worked and it never will.
I am also curious what 'rioting' is happening now?... (show quote)


Rioting and uncivilized behavior is the 'stuff' of the left. When conservatives are angered, they try to define and solve the problem like civilized, reasoning human beings.
Progressive thugs are not civilized, are not reasoning, so all they possess is anti-social behavior and the ability to destroy stuff and people. They resort to violence very quickly because their little buckets are empty of alternatives.

This 'police state' threat is real and is mostly due to Obama's eight (8) years of untiring efforts to divide the population into segments and then sowing seeds of hatred in the minds of the most intellectually deprived.

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Feb 15, 2017 13:58:45   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
permafrost wrote:
Your last line reflects some of why I have such PO attitude.. Damn, dems..





They're both crooked as sh*t, we all know it.

It's what we get when we place lawyers (people who go to school to learn how to manipulate the law and make money from it) as our leaders. 😉



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Feb 15, 2017 14:23:09   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
We intend to be exactly as supportive, considerate and fair as the right wing/GOP was to Obama...


Exactly, keep your rioters and jackboot thugs out of the political process.

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Feb 15, 2017 14:25:17   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Is it terrorism? Who was attacked: the police? Or people who disagreed with the protestors. Did the police provoke the attack? There are no police reports from the UC or Berkeley Police Department. Sounds like everyone wants to make a mountain out of molehill.

There isn't any information from the protestors who were arrested and posted anywhere to read. No tweets, no follow-up stories from any media outlets. Just rumors and accusations from people who weren't there.

Eventually, the white house is going to turn this into the Berkeley Massacre instead of a protest. No one was killed, so it was a protest. Property damage aside (which I have not found any evidence of it either) is a protest.
Is it terrorism? Who was attacked: the police? O... (show quote)


Were you blind from birth or have you adopted that recently. Everyone in the nation has seen the rioters attacking counter protestors on virtually every news channel. You want a police report? Hah!

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Feb 15, 2017 14:33:56   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
pafret wrote:
Were you blind from birth or have you adopted that recently. Everyone in the nation has seen the rioters attacking counter protestors on virtually every news channel. You want a police report? Hah!


So you're saying that you don't trust the police, but trust youtube....Kellyanne Conway....Oil companies....at explaining the truth. You don't trust your own Doctor, but you trust Dr. Oz.

If someone were injured, or killed there would be a court hearing and defendants on TV. Local papers have a police beat section. I don't care what you've seen on TV. You're being manipulated.

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Feb 15, 2017 15:13:20   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
So you're saying that you don't trust the police, but trust youtube....Kellyanne Conway....Oil companies....at explaining the truth. You don't trust your own Doctor, but you trust Dr. Oz.

If someone were injured, or killed there would be a court hearing and defendants on TV. Local papers have a police beat section. I don't care what you've seen on TV. You're being manipulated.


Your arguments are specious, I said no such thing and your insistence on attributing beliefs and ideas to me makes this discussion another waste of time. Unfortunately most discussions with you are a waste of time.

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Feb 15, 2017 15:27:29   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
pafret wrote:
Your arguments are specious, I said no such thing and your insistence on attributing beliefs and ideas to me makes this discussion another waste of time. Unfortunately most discussions with you are a waste of time.


As your topics....

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Feb 15, 2017 17:00:48   #
Cool Breeze
 
pafret wrote:
It will be a simple matter of self preservation. No conservative or Republican is rioting in the streets and blocking essential services. No groups of conservatives or Republicans are attacking and beating people because they are wearing pussy hats or a Hillary T-shirt.

The Progressive/Socialist/Communist left does all that and more. They are becoming emboldened by the lack of punishment for their violent illegal actions. The time is upon us when everyone who possesses a weapon will carry it on his person without regard for the law, because the law cannot protect us. The next batch of conflicts with these lawless elements of disruption will be met with armed resistance and when they are left dead and dying in the streets they may finally understand that theirs is not the only life worth preserving. And, if they don't there is a place for them in Potters Field.

Do note that I said nothing about Liberals above, true liberalism has nothing whatever to do with the true NAZIs in our society.
It will be a simple matter of self preservation. ... (show quote)


OMG! Conservatives are being oppressed! The Revived KKK is going to lead the next Civil Rights Movement.

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Feb 15, 2017 17:06:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
OMG! Conservatives are being oppressed! The Revived KKK is going to lead the next Civil Rights Movement.




LOL

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Feb 15, 2017 17:08:32   #
Cool Breeze
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Rioting and uncivilized behavior is the 'stuff' of the left. When conservatives are angered, they try to define and solve the problem like civilized, reasoning human beings.
Progressive thugs are not civilized, are not reasoning, so all they possess is anti-social behavior and the ability to destroy stuff and people. They resort to violence very quickly because their little buckets are empty of alternatives.

Conservatives don't riot but enjoy instigating one. They throw rocks and try to hide their hands. These protesters wore masks for good reasons. They were paid agitators placed there by subversives in the Trump Administration to blame liberals.
This 'police state' threat is real and is mostly due to Obama's eight (8) years of untiring efforts to divide the population into segments and then sowing seeds of hatred in the minds of the most intellectually deprived.
Rioting and uncivilized behavior is the 'stuff' of... (show quote)

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