lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well, I say Thank You for your effort. The Rothschild Soros race to propaganda I viewed with special interest.. Sons of Liberty was kind enough to share similar type videos involving the One World Order and NWO outlining exactly what is going on right this very minute.. undisputed because with our own eyes and ears we see it taking place.. The gullibility of the people is what they all play on.. I've watched your vids on the Banksters and what they are doing!' Much like what Liberty turned me onto.. Read almost half the night and decided the next day it was no political anything 😳..

As Liberty said"if this isn't stopped we're in deep trouble".. paraphrasing as he was a little more vocal about it.

Have you watched this one??

http://youtu.be/MeM_l5mkyYc

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Informative link. all concerned should watch it and share.
"Soros Caught Funding Anti-Trump Disturbances Nationwide!" on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=J251g7tzCKg

Beware of anyone that covers for George Soros.
Question their motives.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Is it ever going to get where this treasonable menace is charged??? My gosh they have more evidence than needed.. Forget the tax investigation.. Sedition and Treason are the real charges!!

Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!

George Soros is nothing more than a cancer eating away at our freedoms. His, obammy's and the rest of the globalists ideology for genocide of the American people needs to be stopped.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Amen!!!!!

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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Really, with the new vehicles coming off the assembly line, we have cars that are at least 5 times better than in the 50's. If the auto industry keeps the standards that are required today, we should be just fine.

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

Happy St. Patty's day everyone. May ya have the Good Luck of the Leprechauns. Wear green, drink green and have a wonderful day!

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eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Same to you, Mom
Bottoms up!

Big Bass

And top o' this fine day to you too. "May yer never die 'til a dead horse kicks yer!"

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Wow!!!
St Padys day on Friday, and Bike Week in Daytona.
Free mug refills, 4 to 5 at Iron Horse.
Quite the combo.

Progressive One

Clean air rule reversal tests GOP
Efforts to roll back methane gas mandate draw public backlash.
By Evan Halper
WASHINGTON — As Republican lawmakers consider how closely to align with the climate skepticism and fossil-fuel fervor radiating from the White House, a nascent clean air initiative that energy firms want scrapped is fast testing their comfort zone.
Weighing on them is 41 billion cubic feet of methane, a greenhouse gas leaking from many of the nearly 100,000 oil and gas wells on federally owned land. Methane is among the most potent accelerators of global warming, 25 times more harmful than carbon dioxide.
Since the House swiftly voted last month to lift a requirement that escaping gas be trapped and converted to electricity, the backlash has been intense.
Anger is most pronounced in the West, where tens of thousands of residents near drilling operations risk exposure to the toxic compounds that leak in tandem with the methane. Local governments are also desperate for the royalty money they would be entitled to if that gas were turned to energy.
“The thought of a bunch of disconnected lawmakers who don’t live next to leaking gas wells deciding to vote to take this protection away from us just leaves me speechless,” said New Mexico cattleman Don Schreiber, whose Devil’s Spring Ranch in Rio Arriba County is surrounded by 122 natural gas wells.
Supervisors in adjacent La Plata County, Colo., passed a resolution calling on Congress to abandon the rollback. More than 80% of the people in Western states including Arizona, Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming support the Obama-era mandate, according to a Colorado College poll taken in December.
The political tension has left many Republican senators wavering as they struggle with the potential fallout of going after a signature Obama administration climate change policy that — like many others — has a constituency that extends far beyond climate hawks.
They face competing pressure from the Trump administration, as Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt rebukes climate science and steps away from his agency’s far-reaching methane blueprint, intended to stem leaks that in some cases are so large they can be spotted from outer space.
Oil and gas companies have recruited powerful allies in the fight, including in California’s Central Valley, home to some of the highest concentrations of methane anywhere.
“As federal lands become less cost-effective to produce energy on, this unnecessary rule adds to that burden and could wipe out marginal wells run by family-owned businesses who can’t pack up and move their operations,” warned a report posted by House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy of Bakersfield.
He also forecasts financial peril for local governments if the Obama-era rule is not immediately rolled back.
Such pressure has yet to sway many GOP colleagues tangled in the messy politics of methane, such as Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner. His state, like McCarthy’s, is among several that have passed their own laws requiring oil and gas companies to pursue aggressive measures to contain the methane. Many of Gardner’s constituents, including energy firms subject to the new state law, are demanding he help preserve the federal restraints so operators in adjacent states with no local laws would have to abide by the same rules.
They point to pollution drifting from Utah and New Mexico, exacerbating air problems in Colorado. Firms there resent that their nearby competitors can ignore leaks they can’t. The state’s burgeoning clean-energy industry, with its growing bipartisan political might, is applying its own pressure.
“I’m continuing to meet with my constituents on this topic and will continue to do so until the vote,” Gardner wrote in an email.
GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina both announced they would vote against efforts to roll back the rule.
Other Republicans are leaving open the option of joining them, as public concern about leaking methane across the country puts energy firms under new pressure to invest in technology to contain it.
Charges by energy companies that the rule would bankrupt them conflict with Bureau of Land Management findings that the average small business with an oil or gas operation on federal property would see its profit margin reduced by two-tenths of 1% as a result of the rule.
The amount of methane escaping each year, the Obama administration ultimately concluded, is enough to provide electricity for nearly 740,000 homes. The Government Accountability Office alerted Congress in July that capturing it would boost royalties owed to taxpayers by $23 million.
“We shouldn’t just be giving away these taxpayer assets,” said Ryan Alexander, president of the advocacy group Taxpayers for Common Sense. “We should be demanding fair compensation for them.”
But layered over the fights about royalties and air pollution is the more contentious issue of climate change. Methane was a focal point in the Obama administration’s governmentwide plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions that President Trump set about tearing up upon taking office.
The White House calls the plan “expensive and unnecessary.” This month, Pruitt told oil and gas companies not to bother complying with a directive from the EPA to compile and report data related to their methane emissions, which the agency was to use in crafting new restrictions that would apply to all oil and gas operations, not just those on federal land.
Some Republicans have allied with the charge that methane’s role in changing the climate is exaggerated, noting the gas escaping from oil and gas operations on federal land accounted for a tiny fraction of the greenhouse gas that must be cut under the global climate agreement President Obama signed in Paris.
But as climate actions go, this one packs a relatively big punch for the price. Methane leaks are America’s second-biggest industrial source of climate change, behind power plant emissions, according to the Environmental Defense Fund. Retreating on efforts to contain them is another signal internationally that the U.S. is ceding the leadership role on the issue it cemented in Paris to other nations, such as China.
And that doesn’t sit well with some Republicans, leaving in limbo a rule rollback that oil and gas companies once anticipated would be easy.
evan.halper@latimes.com

wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia

Only option is name calling, intelligent conversation is obviously out.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Progressive one;
Are you a paid troll/Hasbarat for the Left’s Political Zionists; or just a dumb angry black man, of low character?
To defend your positions, it would be good to explain why you aligns with the likes of George Soros.
10 Things You Didn't Know About George Soros
https://youtu.be/tfBHYxEojZk
George Soros: Evil Zionist Puppet Master Exposed
https://youtu.be/1eRFTHD2CTg
The Devil On Earth (George Soros)
https://youtu.be/_dLWv6ONtd8

Progressive One

Homegrown labor in short supply
Trump’s immigration crackdown threatens to worsen state farmworker shortage
LEOVIJILDO MARTINEZ earns $19.50 an hour working vineyards for Silverado Farming, which has had trouble finding enough workers despite the premium pay. (Gary Coronado Los Angeles Times)
By Natalie Kitroeff and Geoffrey Mohan reporting from stockton
Arnulfo Solorio’s desperate mission to recruit farmworkers for the Napa Valley took him far from the pastoral vineyards to a raggedy parking lot in Stockton, in the heart of the Central Valley.
Carrying a fat stack of business cards for his company, Silverado Farming, Solorio approached one prospect, a man with only his bottom set of teeth. He told Solorio that farm work in Stockton pays $11 to $12 an hour. Solorio countered: “Look, we are paying $14.50 now, but we are going up to $16.” The man nodded skeptically.
Solorio moved on to two men huddled nearby, and returned quickly.
“They were drug addicts,” he said. “And they didn’t have a car.”
Before the day was through, Solorio would make the same pitch to dozens of men and women, approaching a taco truck, a restaurant and a homeless encampment. Time was short: He needed to find 100 workers to fill his ranks by April 1, when grapevines begin to grow and need constant attention.
Solorio is one of a growing number of agricultural businessmen who say they face an urgent shortage of workers.
The flow of labor began drying up when President Obama tightened the border. Now President Trump is promising to deport more people, raid more companies and build a wall on the southern border.
That has made California farms a proving ground for the Trump team’s theory that by cutting off the flow of immigrants they will free up more jobs for American-born workers and push up their wages.
So far, the results aren’t encouraging, for farmers or domestic workers.
Farmers are being forced to make difficult choices about whether to abandon some of the state’s hallmark fruits and vegetables, move operations abroad, import workers under a special visa or replace them altogether with machines.
Growers who can afford it have already begun raising worker pay well beyond minimum wage. Wages for crop production in California increased 13% from 2010 to 2015, twice as fast as average pay in the state, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Today, farmworkers in the state earn about $30,000 a year if they work full time, about half the overall average pay in California. Most work fewer hours.
Some farmers are even giving laborers benefits normally reserved for white-collar professionals, like 401(k) plans, health insurance, subsidized housing and profit-sharing bonuses. Full-timers at Silverado Farming, for example, get most of those sweeteners, plus 10 paid vacation days, eight paid holidays, and can earn their hourly rate to take English classes.
But the raises and new perks have not tempted native-born Americans to leave their day jobs for the fields. Nine in 10 agriculture workers in California are still foreign born, and more than half are here illegally, according to a federal survey.
Instead, companies growing high-value crops, like Cabernet Sauvignon grapes in Napa, are luring employees from fields in places like Stockton that produce cheaper wine grapes or less profitable fruits and vegetables.
Growers who can’t raise wages are losing their employees and dealing with it by mechanizing, downsizing or switching to less labor-intensive crops.
Jeff Klein is doing all of the above. Last year Klein, a fourth-generation Stockton farmer, ran a mental ledger, trying to sort out the pros and cons of persevering in the wine business or quitting. He couldn’t make the math work.
Wineries pay Klein a tiny fraction of what they pony up for the same grape variety grown in Napa, and the rising cost of labor meant he was losing money on his vineyards. So in October, Klein decided to rip out 113,000 Chardonnay grapevines that once blanketed land his family has owned for decades. Now they lay heaped into hundreds of piles, waiting to be taken to the dump.
“I try to make any decision I make not emotional. When you’re running a business, it has to be a financial decision,” he says, sifting through the mangled metal posts.
Five years ago, Klein had a crew of 100 workers pruning, tying and suckering his grapevines. Wineries paid $700 for a ton of grapes, and Klein could make a solid profit paying $8 an hour, the minimum wage.
Last year he could barely get together 45 laborers, and his grapes sold for only $350 per ton. Klein knew his vines were done for when California passed laws raising the minimum wage to $15 by 2023 and requiring daily overtime for field laborers.
“There’s not enough guys, and everybody is fighting for everybody else’s guys,” he says. “In Napa and Sonoma, they’re getting $2,000 a ton [for grapes]. So, those guys can afford to pay $15. For me, I’m just trying to break even.”
Although Trump earned Klein’s vote, he worries that recent executive orders ratcheting up deportation plans and calling for a wall are putting a chokehold on an already tight pool of workers.
“That’s killing our labor force,” says the 35-year-old grower.
Already, fewer Mexicans had been willing to risk border crossings as security and deportations escalated under the Obama administration. At the same time, Mexico’s own economy was mushrooming, offering decent jobs for people who stayed behind.
Klein says he’ll spend the next five years planting almond and olive trees, which require a fraction of the human labor.
With the grapevines he has left, Klein is doing what he can to pare his crews. Last year, he bought a leaf puller for $50,000, which turns the delicate process of culling grapevine canopies into an exercise in brute force. The puller hooks onto a tractor and, like an oddly shaped vacuum cleaner, sucks leaves from grapevines.
He used to spend $100 an acre culling the canopies, which allows the right amount of sunlight to hit the grapes and turn them into sugar balls. Now, he says, “It will cost me 20 bucks, and I can get rid of some labor.”
About 80 miles west in Napa, growers aren’t facing quite the same challenge. Cabernet Sauvignon grapes in Napa go for nearly $6,900 per ton, 10 times more than in San Joaquin County.
That’s the reason Napa County pays its farmworkers $41,940 a year, the highest in California, The Times’ analysis of federal data shows.
That’s also why Leovijildo Martinez clambers into a van around 4:40 a.m. every morning to travel from Stockton to the Napa Valley.
By 6:30 a.m. he is at a Napa vineyard, and 12 hours later, he returns to his two-bedroom apartment.
“You get home, you shower, you eat a couple of tortillas with whatever is here,” Martinez says. He gets to see his kids’ faces and give them a hug before turning in at 9:30 p.m. They still complain about not seeing him enough.
“It’s hard for me, as a man and as a father,” he says.
But the commute is paying off. A year ago, the 31-year-old from Mexico was earning $14.75 an hour doing the same work for a different Napa company. He joined Silverado in April and now he’s making $19.50 working vineyards that produce grapes for a winery whose bottles go for about $300.
“Everything in Napa is different. They treat you differently there, they don’t pressure you, and they respect the law,” he says. “If you work here, in Stockton, you don’t have enough money.”
According to the economic theory behind Trump’s immigration crackdown, Americans should be following Martinez’s van into the fields.
“The law of supply and demand doesn’t stop being true just because you’re talking about people,” says George Borjas, a Harvard economist and prominent foe of unfettered immigration. “[Farmers] have had an almost endless supply of low-skill workers for a long time, and now they are finding it difficult to transition to a situation where they don’t.”
Borjas believes the ones who reap the rewards of immigration are employers — not just farmers, but restaurant owners and well-to-do homeowners who hire landscapers and housekeepers. The people who suffer most, he says, are American workers who contend with more competition for jobs and lower pay.
But Silverado, the farm labor contracting company in Napa, has never had a white, American-born person take an entry-level gig, even after the company increased hourly wages to $4 above the minimum. And Silverado is far from unique.
U.S. workers filled just 2% of a sample of farm labor vacancies advertised in 1996, according to a report published by the Labor Department’s office of inspector general. “I don’t think anybody would dispute that that’s roughly the way it is now” as well, says Philip Martin, an economist at UC Davis and one of the country’s leading experts on agriculture.
Indeed, Chalmers R. Carr III, the president of Titan Farms, a South Carolina peach giant, told lawmakers at a 2013 hearing that he advertised 2,000 job openings from 2010 through 2012. Carr said he was paying $9.39, $2 more than the state’s minimum wage at the time.
He hired 483 U.S. applicants, slightly less than a quarter of what he needed; 109 didn’t show up on the first day. Another 321 of them quit, “the vast majority in the first two days,” Carr testified. Only 31 lasted for the entire peach season.
Borjas, the Harvard economist, says it may just be that wages are still too low. “Believe me, if the wages were really, really high, you and I would be lining up,” Borjas says.
Or perhaps farms are just not a place where native-born Americans want to work. The job is seasonal, so laborers have to alternate between long stretches without any income and months of 60-hour weeks. They work in extreme heat and cold, and spend all day bending over to reach vegetables or climbing up and down ladders to pluck fruit in trees.
“You don’t need a deep analysis to understand why farm work wouldn’t be attractive to young Americans,” says Martin, the agriculture expert.
If farmers upped the average wage to, say, $25 an hour, people born here might think twice. But that’s a pipe dream, many argue.
“Well before we got to $25, there would be machines out in the fields, doing pruning or harvesting, or we would lose crops,” Martin says.
Already, strawberry growers in Ventura are experimenting with robots that plant seedlings, and growers in Central Coast counties are culling, weeding and even harvesting heads of lettuce with machines. At the outer edge, engineers are trying to teach machines to pick fruit.
Brad Goehring, a fourth-generation farmer, is re-engineering his vineyards so they can be harvested entirely by machines.
The 52-year-old owns 500 acres of wine grapes in Lodi, near Stockton. He tends another 10,000 or so acres of vineyards that belong to several clients across Northern California.
Being the boss used to be fun for Goehring, but his labor problems are wearying.
In the last five years, he has advertised in local newspapers and accepted more than a dozen unemployed applicants from the state’s job agency. Even when the average rate on his fields was $20 an hour, the U.S.-born workers lost interest, fast.
“We’ve never had one come back after lunch,” he says.
For now, Goehring is betting his future on 10 floppy rows of Malbec vines. The vines, visible from the slender country road that borders Goehring’s house, were among his first experiments in mechanization.
About five years ago, Goehring changed the wiring holding up parts of his vines so that no metal stakes exceed the height of the wire. The setup allows for a machine to prune the top of the vine, as well as both sides.
“I think we can eliminate, I’m just guessing, 85% of the labor on these new vineyards,” he says, reducing pruning costs from $300 per acre, on average, to $80. He plans to keep spending more on machinery, like his $350,000 tractor-like vehicle that shakes grapes off the vine and catches them before they fall to the ground.
Now, he’s replanting entire ranches for clients interested in machine-managed vineyards.
Goehring’s long game is hundreds of acres of wine grapes harvested without ever touching human hands. If that doesn’t work, he’d reluctantly replace it all with almonds.
“If we have to, we’d go there,” he says. If filled with nut trees, his entire property could be managed, he says, by three employees.
natalie.kitroeff
@latimes.com
geoffrey.mohan
@latimes.com
Times staff writer Ben Welsh contributed to this report.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Black Bird Fly
https://youtu.be/qokMu7BMv_8

Or just go back to sleep in your lice ridden nest, Programmed One.

America Only
Did some back checking:
PO; “ You lied to everyone on this website. It is what you do. You as a liar, also have a piss poor memory. You always use the age of 26 that you did something spectacular as to impress everyone...but you failed to recall, you posted here in this above thread to DOC that at age 26 you were on your way to work for a space program...or on a ship which you stated you were on for 2 years...but a long time ago when you used your other name here and you claimed you worked on a shuttle for a few years...at age 26.....oh my...you just don't know WHEN to stop your bullshit lies!”
“He (PO) is a total frigging liar, an idiot! When this moron came on this website saying he worked on the Shuttle, his statement was the Shuttle was the exact same one from one to the next...NO difference...but clue in on this fact..IF he worked on any part of the Shuttle in the EE department as he claimed...he not only would have had to sign for published updates on it...he would have KNOWN about what was different...he knew ZERO and denied anything was different at all...but then...I had to shoot him down in flames...how so you ask? EASY! The same people that informed me he did not work and had not been employed by Rockwell sent me reports that if he would have worked for them, he would have had to SIGN for them...and low and behold what do those reports speak of? Hahah ALL of the CHANGES that are NEW for the systems on the Shuttle..check this out!”
“So now..at age 26 you worked at NASA, worked on the Shuttle for Rockwell and then on a ship up in Alaska...and all of those for "about two years" from your own past posts on this website.

Oh let us know when the detectives stop by your place...they will be there fairly soon...count on it”

Oh I get it!!!!!
Propaganda One is the Jack Benny of OPP.
OP will always be 26.
In a time warp, a black hole with a warped brain.