Mr Bombastic

I keep hearing about this so called separation of Church and State. Could someone please point out where, in the Constitution, it mentions this? I can't find it.

The simple truth is that the Constitution says that Congress shall make no law concerning religion. That's it. Also, if you read what our founding fathers have to say about it, it is obvious that the Supreme Court got it wrong.

Mr Bombastic

Well? Still waiting. Can one of you liberals please point out where I can find this, or are you a bunch of gutless cowards?

Mr Bombastic

What's this? Did I silence the opposition? Surely, one of you can tell me where the Constitution mentions the separation of Church and State. Or can you? LOLOLOL!

kankune Loc: Iowa

They won't test you, Bombastic. They can't make up a lie about that one or even spin it to fit their narrative. LOSERS!!!!

PeterS

I keep hearing that the constitution grants us the right to use a gun for self defense. Can you please point out where it says that?

We just went over this very same topic a couple weeks ago. Is facebook getting redundant?

kankune Loc: Iowa

Good grief....read the 2nd amendment.....

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Doesn't exist, Buddy. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion or impeding the free exercise of religion, it says nothing about 'separating' religion and government. There is no further reference to religion anywhere in the entire document.

Saying that the Supreme Court 'got it wrong' will not do anything to address this problem. It seems to me that the Supreme Court has developed this 'ability' to find texts and meanings in the Constitution that the rest of us have overlooked, or are simply too blind to see. 'Gay marriage' immediately springs to mind as one of the most recent. I cannot find the word 'marriage' or any of its derivatives anywhere in the Constitution, yet the Supreme Court of the United States managed to not only find 'marriage', but 'gay marriage'! 'Healthcare' would be another one. Where is it written that the Federal Government has the authority to force anyone to buy anything? Well, the supreme Court found it, and more.

Here's a partial listing of the unconstitutional acts by Congress and the Executive that are still (at least partially) in force:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36517-Proof-Government-is-Hijacked--List-of-Unconstitutional-Acts-Our-Government-Has-Done-&s=770a463d88bc2a9d79222067d7affd52

Don't try, you'll never make sense of it, just drive yourself to the nuthouse in the process.

Mr Bombastic

It doesn't say we can't. And everyone has the God given right to defend themselves. The government, at least the libturds in government, want our guns for ONE reason. So that we cannot defend ourselves against them. YOU are an idiot. The ONLY reason we are still free is because we have our guns. Take those away, and you have tyranny.

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

Please Pete ,, you come take my gun .. Please !!!! I will not split definitions of what the Constitution say's .. It is written in plain english , not mohammad mumbojumbo so I'm sure you will try to twist and use our laws to destroy us pig fker ! Please pete .. come and take it !!!!!

kankune Loc: Iowa

Hey Recon. You know they only think they're tough if they're in a group. Get one by themselves and they are cowards and wet their diapers.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

That is a good point. It is the sheer magnitude of America's arms in the hands of civilians which makes us a most difficult population to be controlled by a military. In fact, it would be impossible. Our civilian guns give us the backing we need to have our freedom, earned with blood and maintained thru strength.

Basically was are a dog with teeth. A very big dog at that!

kankune Loc: Iowa

Yah....150 pound Rottweiler with very very big teeth and the weight behind him to knock you down before u can bat an eye...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Kind of like that, yes!

Mr Bombastic

And the War for Independence was fought with weapons owned by private citizens. At least in the beginning. Historically, the first act of every would be tyrant was to confiscate the guns. That is why we cling to them. Some say that we could never resist the modern weapons that our government possesses. I say quantity is it's own quality. We probably couldn't win a direct engagement, but imagine millions of guerrilla fighters. Hundreds of thousands of snipers, many of them trained by our own military. As long as there are armed patriots, willing to die for their freedom, tyranny can not exist. Our elected officials govern at our pleasure. If we really wanted to, we could take them down. That is why they want our guns. They fear us. And they should.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

The right to use a gun for self-defense. Right here:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." - US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendment 2.

27 words. Plain English. What part of 'shall not be infringed' is so hard to comprehend, right? Of course, self-defense is just one way this may be applied. Another is in defense of property. Yet another is in defense of the State. And yet another, far more controversial application, is defense against the State, should it get too big for it's britches; that's the one that causes all the kerfuffle. That's why politicians are always crying about 'common sense gun control' every time some moron violates a 'gun free zone' law. By the way, those 'target rich' gun free zones are just another way of making ordinary people accustomed to gun control laws. Think about that. How many lives could have been saved if the law-abiding gun owners hadn't been forced to leave their sidearms at the house when they went to the school?

Digging a little deeper, it is obvious that the framers of the constitution were not being especially picky about people keeping and bearing arms so that they might occasionally go hunting or target shooting. They made sure that the people would be armed and dangerous should the Federal government lean towards tyranny. The people are armed and that goes some way to keeping the politicians at least somewhat less that despotic.

In essence, those 27 words mean all of those things, simply because there is no specific purpose mentioned beyond the "well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State".