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Feb 6, 2017 14:29:11   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
Is The Trump Administration Already Over? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org

I don't agree with everything Paul Craig Roberts states here, primarily his take on Israel, nor his "headline" reference. He does however, bring up some interesting points of fact.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/06/trump-administration-already-paul-craig-roberts/

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Feb 6, 2017 14:56:56   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Is The Trump Administration Already Over? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org

I don't agree with everything Paul Craig Roberts states here, primarily his take on Israel, nor his "headline" reference. He does however, bring up some interesting points of fact.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/06/trump-administration-already-paul-craig-roberts/


QG, after reading his commentary I tend to dismiss his opinion. At least in this matter.

The general is most probably speaking of threat "potential" and in that matter he may be correct. Who the most immediate threat may be is a toss up but Russia is potentially a huge threat. I say "potentially" but not a certainty. Iran is out of control and as a religious driven entity, the fervour of the Ayatollah makes them unpredictable. To that add that I just read that part of the nuclear agreement allows them missiles capable of reaching Israel. If this is true I would place Iran currently at threat #1 because if they attack Israel as they repeatedly threaten, all bets are off in the middle east and the spill over will impact us heavily.

Your author is accusing Israel of terrorizing Palestine and the U.S. of terrorizing the world. This guy sounds like a wounded liberal. What Israel does in self defense I cannot consider terrorism and although the U.S. sticks its nose into far too much outside of America, which Trump plans to curtail, I don't see us in the guise of terrorists in today's context. Causing deaths overseas, absolutely, but doing so in the classic terrorist manner, no.

The way this guy states things in my opinion labels him as "take with a grain of salt" if not a spoonful. I think he has an agenda. I can't tell what it is definitely because he is playing both sides of the fence, but he is going sonewhere.

This is of course, just my opinion.

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Feb 6, 2017 15:04:07   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
Docadhoc wrote:
QG, after reading his commentary I tend to dismiss his opinion. At least in this matter.

The general is most probably speaking of threat "potential" and in that matter he may be correct. Who the most immediate threat may be is a toss up but Russia is potentially a huge threat. I say "potentially" but not a certainty. Iran is out of control and as a religious driven entity, the fervour of the Ayatollah makes them unpredictable. To that add that I just read that part of the nuclear agreement allows them missiles capable of reaching Israel. If this is true I would place Iran currently at threat #1 because if they attack Israel as they repeatedly threaten, all bets are off in the middle east and the spill over will impact us heavily.

Your author is accusing Israel of terrorizing Palestine and the U.S. of terrorizing the world. This guy sounds like a wounded liberal. What Israel does in self defense I cannot consider terrorism and although the U.S. sticks its nose into far too much outside of America, which Trump plans to curtail, I don't see us in the guise of terrorists in today's context. Causing deaths overseas, absolutely, but doing so in the classic terrorist manner, no.

The way this guy states things in my opinion labels him as "take with a grain of salt" if not a spoonful. I think he has an agenda. I can't tell what it is definitely because he is playing both sides of the fence, but he is going sonewhere.

This is of course, just my opinion.
QG, after reading his commentary I tend to dismiss... (show quote)


I gather you did not read my take on the article. As I stated your two objections in my own take on the article.

Nevertheless, there are other points of interest within the article. Do you always throw the baby out with the bath water? There are nuggets of truth in that baby. Gotta grab 'em while we can!

EDIT: The Ukrainian, and Georgia too. We had no business being there, either. Our relationship with Russia has been teetering since Obama's,1st term. Syria was Russia's "had enough of you Obama". breaking point. A war with Russia and/or China or even N Korea for that matter, would be the end of US, imho. Not too thrilled about Iran either given Obama's $150 billion gift.

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Feb 6, 2017 15:10:26   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Is The Trump Administration Already Over? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org

I don't agree with everything Paul Craig Roberts states here, primarily his take on Israel, nor his "headline" reference. He does however, bring up some interesting points of fact.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/06/trump-administration-already-paul-craig-roberts/







That's what "lefty" has been saying about Republican conservatives for 120 years in America, QG; and are STILL attempting to (D)ismantle our "Shining Light on the Hill" with the loudspeaker of the MSM (D), and "Hollyweird" (D), 24/7/365!!! (D)amn, they had Hillary (D), winning over Donald Trump (R), by 82%, FOR POTUS, IN A LANDSLIDE!!! "THE DONALD was a clown, and stood about the same chance at becoming POTUS as would a snowball existing in hell." And NOW the message {by the same MSM/"Hollyweird"}, yelling and screaming and hollering in ALL the "lap-dog, alphabet channel" MSM (D), that President "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R), is about to be impeached or (D)elegitimized to the point of abandoning his post. Even God, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong just said "NO WAY!!!" The "Beast" has been suddenly, electively (D)ecapitated, and the mindless body and tail are reflexively in a "death-rattle," slamming and flip-flopping and attempting to continue to (D)isrupt our LEFTY, HATED, Western free-market Republic. The radical Marxist/Alinsky ideology and agenda couldn't do anything when they had ALL the power of the WH behind them, with a (D)isabled Supreme Court, "lefty" Cabinet, Czars, AG, DOJ, Ambassador to UN, un-vetted Senior "devout" Advisors, etc.; and now they have absolutely NOTHING. "WE" have all the power. What chance do they POSSIBLY HAVE??? None, zero, zip, nada!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 6, 2017 15:22:56   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
robmull wrote:
That's what "lefty" has been saying about Republicans for 120 years in America, QG; and are STILL attempting to (D)ismantle America with the loudspeaker of the MSM and "Hollyweird," 24/7/365!!! (D)amn, they had Hillary winning over Donald Trump by 82%, FOR POTUS, IN A LANDSLIDE!!! "THE DONALD was a clown, and stood about the same chance at becoming POTUS as would a snowball existing in hell." And NOW the message {by the same MSM/"Hollyweird"}, yelling and screaming and hollering in ALL the "lap-dog, alphabet channel" MSM, that President "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R), is about to be impeached or (D)elegitimized to the point of abandoning his post. Even Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong just said "NO WAY!!!" The "Beast" has been (D)ecapitated, and the mindless body and tail are reflexively in a "death-rattle," slamming and attempting to continue to (D)isrupt our LEFTY, HATED, Western free-market Republic. The radical Marxist/Alinsky ideology and agenda couldn't do anything when they had the power of the WH behind them, with a (D)isabled Supreme Court, "lefty" Cabinet, Czars, AG, DOJ, Ambassador to UN, un-vetted Senior Advisors, etc.; and now they have NOTHING.
That's what "lefty" has been saying abou... (show quote)


I just read an article concerning CNN. Apparently, CNN finds "tell it like it is" speak, along with the act of "keeping campaign promises" too "jarring" for their tender little sugar-coated ears to hear truth. Apparently, said sugar is dissolving and now they're in a panic. Tough....!!! Get a plunger and unclog the impacted sugar in your ear canals!

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Feb 6, 2017 15:28:28   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
QuestGirl wrote:
I just read an article concerning CNN. Apparently, CNN finds "tell it like it is" speak, along with the act of "keeping campaign promises" too "jarring" for their tender little sugar-coated ears to hear truth. Apparently, said sugar is dissolving and now they're in a panic. Tough....!!! Get a plunger and unclog the impacted sugar in your ear canals!










THEY CAN'T STAND IT, QG. THEY CAN'T STAND IT. "{T}he sugar is (D)isolving," and "lefty" is still going in and out-of-shock; while their mindless tail is floundering and flip-flopping around our "Shining Light on the Hill," as would ANY suddenly, {quite unexpectedly}, (D)ecapitated "Beast;" 'til dawn. And President Trump is doing just what he said he would do in the campaign, so "lefty" had all the "useful-idiots" and well-paid anarchists to assault America with their LAST {futile} attempt to (D)eligitimize President Trump (R); and America!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!! Hell, they couldn't stop the "Trump Train" with all the power of the WH, administration, Cabinet, Czars, Congress, Intelligence, un-vetted Senior Advisors and (D)isabled Supreme Court; so how in the WORLD do they think {with the total loss of power}, that they will NOW stop the "TRAIN"??? God, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong said "NO WAY," for the POTUS election; and "WE" just keep getting stronger!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 6, 2017 15:37:27   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
Docadhoc wrote:
QG, after reading his commentary I tend to dismiss his opinion. At least in this matter.

The general is most probably speaking of threat "potential" and in that matter he may be correct. Who the most immediate threat may be is a toss up but Russia is potentially a huge threat. I say "potentially" but not a certainty. Iran is out of control and as a religious driven entity, the fervour of the Ayatollah makes them unpredictable. To that add that I just read that part of the nuclear agreement allows them missiles capable of reaching Israel. If this is true I would place Iran currently at threat #1 because if they attack Israel as they repeatedly threaten, all bets are off in the middle east and the spill over will impact us heavily.

Your author is accusing Israel of terrorizing Palestine and the U.S. of terrorizing the world. This guy sounds like a wounded liberal. What Israel does in self defense I cannot consider terrorism and although the U.S. sticks its nose into far too much outside of America, which Trump plans to curtail, I don't see us in the guise of terrorists in today's context. Causing deaths overseas, absolutely, but doing so in the classic terrorist manner, no.

The way this guy states things in my opinion labels him as "take with a grain of salt" if not a spoonful. I think he has an agenda. I can't tell what it is definitely because he is playing both sides of the fence, but he is going sonewhere.

This is of course, just my opinion.
QG, after reading his commentary I tend to dismiss... (show quote)


Also, just because you do not agree with said "author" (have you read his bio?) does not equate as "fake news" with or without your most generous "grain of salt". His opinion does not need to agree with yours to be valid, as well as true.

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Feb 6, 2017 16:02:13   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
robmull wrote:
THEY CAN'T STAND IT, QG. THEY CAN'T STAND IT. "{T}he sugar is (D)isolving," and "lefty" is still going in and out-of-shock; while their mindless tail is floundering and flip-flopping around our "Shining Light on the Hill," as would ANY suddenly, {quite unexpectedly}, (D)ecapitated "Beast;" 'til dawn. And President Trump is doing just what he said he would do in the campaign, so "lefty" had all the "useful-idiots" and well-paid anarchists to assault America with their LAST {futile} attempt to (D)eligitimize President Trump (R); and America!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!! Hell, they couldn't stop the "Trump Train" with all the power of the WH, administration, Cabinet, Czars, Congress, Intelligence, un-vetted Senior Advisors and (D)isabled Supreme Court; so how in the WORLD do they think {with the total loss of power}, that they will NOW stop the "TRAIN"??? God, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong said "NO WAY," for the POTUS election; and "WE" just keep getting stronger!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!
THEY CAN'T STAND IT, QG. THEY CAN'T STAND IT. &... (show quote)


Did you see ABC's "This Week" with George? The interview with VP Pence on Sunday? It was really quite a good interview. VP won't bite the rherotic George throw at him. Leaving George no choice but to move on, covering alot of ground on numerous topics. Compare it to the Nitwit on CBS's Face the Nation". Georges' is the best interview I've seen in a very long time by the MSM.

George, however, appears to have not slept in 3 months. Seems to be inflicted with Tapper Syndrome.

Also, George is a generous man. He has donated up to $500,000 to my local homeless shelter. George has known the now retired inception director of the shelter for decades. They meant in NYC while both were serving at a soup kitchen.

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Feb 6, 2017 16:03:33   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Also, just because you do not agree with said "author" (have you read his bio?) does not equate as "fake new" with or without your most generous "grain of salt". His opinion does not need to agree with yours to be valid.









"Lefty," QG, is now working under the "Taqiyya," (D), ideology and agenda, which has nothing to do with our Western free-market realities. NOTHING. President Trump (R), is the worst thing to happen to "lefty," since even before Saul Alinsky was born {1909}. Their radical Marx/Alinsky "fundamental transformation" world, has suddenly, completely, unexpectedly, electively, been (D)ecapitated; and the "Beast," with its mindless, {well-financed} body and tail will-be flip-flopping and slamming around our "Shining Light on the Hill," until dawn. "Lefty" couldn't do ANYTHING to stop the "Trump Train," BEFORE the LANDSLIDE, EARTHQUAKE ELECTION LOSS, and now that they lost all their power {WH, un-vetted Cabinet, Czars, "(D)evout" Advisors, etc.}, STILL think they can stop it. FAT CHANCE!!! God, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong said "NO WAY," and "WE" mean it!!! No ifs ands or buts. They are currently attempting to "overthrow their enemy, America" {Saul Alinsky (D), "Rules for Radicals"}, by rioting looting, vandalizing, murdering, "PIG" killing, arson, protests and violent, obnoxious (D)emonstrations. They are even attempting to use their pitiful little "lefty" Circuit Courts against President Trump (R); and the "lefty's" neurotic, schizophrenic, bi-polar and frantic agenda didn't work BEFORE the election, and quadrupling-(D)own on their insanity sure-as-hell won't work now with their COMPLETE loss-of-power!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 6, 2017 16:13:42   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
robmull wrote:
"Lefty," QG, is now working under the "Taqiyya," (D), ideology and agenda, which has nothing to do with our Western free-market realities. NOTHING. President Trump (R), is the worst thing to happen to "lefty," since even before Saul Alinsky was born {1909}. Their radical Marx/Alinsky "fundamental transformation" world, has suddenly, completely, unexpectedly, electively, (D)ecapitated the "Beast;" and its mindless, well-financed body and tail will-be flip-flopping and slamming around our "Shining Light on the Hill," until dawn. "Lefty" couldn't do ANYTHING to stop the "Trump Train," BEFORE the LANDSLIDE, EARTHQUAKE ELECTION LOSS, and now that they lost all their power {WH, Cabinet, Czars, Congress, etc.} think they can stop it. God, Jose, Leroy, Mary, John and Wong said "NO WAY," and "WE" mean it!!! No ifs ands or buts. They are currently attempting to "overthrow their enemy, America" {Saul Alinsky (D), "Rules for Radicals"}, by rioting looting, vandalizing, murdering, "PIG" killing, arson, protests and violent, obnoxious (D)emonstrations. They are even attempting to use the "lefty" Circuit Courts against President Trump (R); and the "lefty's" neurotic, schizophrenic, bi-polar and frantic agenda didn't work BEFORE the election, and sure-as-hell won't work now with their COMPLETE loss-of-power!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!
"Lefty," QG, is now working under the &q... (show quote)


"Lefty" would say "Taqiya" is a "made up word" by the Right because Obama, et al, "...all told 'em so."

The train's a comin'.......



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Feb 6, 2017 16:22:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
QuestGirl wrote:
I just read an article concerning CNN. Apparently, CNN finds "tell it like it is" speak, along with the act of "keeping campaign promises" too "jarring" for their tender little sugar-coated ears to hear truth. Apparently, said sugar is dissolving and now they're in a panic. Tough....!!! Get a plunger and unclog the impacted sugar in your ear canals!


CNN has been seathing since Trump called them what they lairs, and told them he didn't need them in the election and doesn't need them now...

Trump in effect cut them out of the mainstream media conferences at the WhiteHouse and Spicer won't take questions from them...

They feel the squeeze rest assured.. Left to scurrying for the news now they are seeing just exactly how Trump can play their game and beat them at it too..

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Feb 6, 2017 17:03:25   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
lindajoy wrote:
CNN has been seathing since Trump called them what they lairs, and told them he didn't need them in the election and doesn't need them now...

Trump in effect cut them out of the mainstream media conferences at the WhiteHouse and Spicer won't take questions from them...

They feel the squeeze rest assured.. Left to scurrying for the news now they are seeing just exactly how Trump can play their game and beat them at it too..


Yes, CNN has been put on notice and thoroughly ostracized. I expect CBS and NBC may follow. Last week I watched the entire WH press conference on-line. I recognized only 1 MSM reporter in the front row. Don't recall his name, don't believe he was called upon either. Want to say he was NBC or affiliate MSNBC, but could be CBS. They 'Skyped' 4 reports too, from small news outlets across the country.

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Feb 6, 2017 17:07:12   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Did you see ABC's "This Week" with George? The interview with VP Pence on Sunday? It was really quite a good interview. VP won't bite the rherotic George throw at him. Leaving George no choice but to move on, covering alot of ground on numerous topics. Compare it to the Nitwit on CBS's Face the Nation". Georges' is the best interview I've seen in a very long time by the MSM.

George, however, appears to have not slept in 3 months. Seems to be inflicted with Tapper Syndrome.

Also, George is a generous man. He has donated up to $500,000 to my local homeless shelter. George has known the now retired inception director of the shelter for decades. They meant in NYC while both were serving at a soup kitchen.
Did you see ABC's "This Week" with Georg... (show quote)








I pretty much stay away from the "lap-dog, alphabet" cannels, QG. In the beginning of BHO's attempt to "coup" the WH with "Hope and Change," and "{T}here's no Democrats and Republicans..., no black and white" crap, and I felt it my duty to force myself to hear what "lefty" was saying. I struggled through their nonsense for a few months in 2007, and found I was ready to throw a brick through my TV screen. It was like when I was working in NYC, {1974, '75}, riding the train everyday reading the NYT newspaper. I would end-up yelling at the stranger next-to-me about the asinine ideology of "lefty," and learned my final "TV" lesson in 2007. Even FOX doesn't last past the first hint that "lefty" is about to try to look at me (D)irectly in my eye, in MY living room, and tell ME how good America and the world is (D)oing with radical Marx/Alinsky BHO "leading from behind." Were you referring to George Stephanopoulos? I'm glad {if you are} that he (D)onated $500,000 to your local "homeless center;" but I have no use for ANY {overall} Marx/Alinsky, "(D)aily morning talking points," ideologies and agendas. If it is Stephanopoulos, I'm rather sure it's been a "no sleep" scenario since "THE DONALD" started building the conservative "TRUMP TRAIN!!!" The very nerve of ANYONE, (R) OR (D), to challenge Hillary has caused MANY-a-tossing, turning sleepless night for the (D) administration, the (D) MSM, and the (D) "Hollyweird!!!" GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!

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Feb 6, 2017 17:09:48   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
QuestGirl wrote:
Is The Trump Administration Already Over? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org

I don't agree with everything Paul Craig Roberts states here, primarily his take on Israel, nor his "headline" reference. He does however, bring up some interesting points of fact.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/06/trump-administration-already-paul-craig-roberts/


Not necessarily. Trump will either adapt, or be removed, where upon it would become a Pence administration. Trumps inherent weakness is his inability to manage anything other than his image. Trying to run the Presidency the way he ran his campaign, is what has gotten him in hot water, and he'll either change, resign, or the Congress will remove him - if and when it starts costing THEM votes.

Sooner or later ( it's looking like "sooner" ), Trump will realize that his "advisors" have their own agenda, and have been manipulating him. Had their shenanigans resulted in praises for Trump, he wouldn't care, but - it didn't.

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Feb 6, 2017 17:17:01   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Not necessarily. Trump will either adapt, or be removed, where upon it would become a Pence administration. Trumps inherent weakness is his inability to manage anything other than his image. Trying to run the Presidency the way he ran his campaign, is what has gotten him in hot water, and he'll either change, resign, or the Congress will remove him - if and when it starts costing THEM votes.

Sooner or later ( it's looking like "sooner" ), Trump will realize that his "advisors" have their own agenda, and have been manipulating him. Had their shenanigans resulted in praises for Trump, he wouldn't care, but - it didn't.
Not necessarily. Trump will either adapt, or be re... (show quote)







YOU, minor, are really listening, believingly, to the "Marxstream" media. Hummmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!! And YOU expect ME to believe that the same MSM that had Hillary at 82% over "THE DONALD," and "MR. Trump had less of-a-chance of taking the WH than a snowball lasting in hell." Hummmmmmmmmm, again. FAT CHANCE!!! ONE MORE TIME!!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. TRUMP (R)!!!

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