Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Look up the Alien and Sedition Acts signed into law by president Adams in 1798. Specifically the Alien Enemies Act.

It gives the president the power to determine countries and their citizens that in any way threaten the welfare of U.S. citizens and ban, deport, detain, or otherwise regulate their admission into and out of America. The president's oath of office requires him to do this.when he swears to.protect.

The first judge and the appellate judge are both guilty of not recognizing and upholding presidential authority and my guess is they both could be taken down. It depends on Trump's people. If they feel that message must be sent to put others on notice, they may pull the trigger.

The Alien Enemies Act is still in force as we are at war with ISIS.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

This whole thing the left is perpetrating is a farce. It's just another thumb in our country's eye.
The party of obstruction is working overtime. Bunch of asshat wearing malcontents.

CounterRevolutionary

Interesting. How is it that simple laymen such as the posters on OPP can look up these laws and recognize their pertinence but the activist judges cannot - or will not? That's one more piece of legislation supporting Trump's Executive Order. There is that 1952 McCarran-Walker Act, These radical judges legislating from the bench and the hip do not belong in office. They need to be impeached for dereliction of duty.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

The first judge ruled because he said he believes the two states that filed against the EO, MN & WA, would most.probably win their case so he awarded them standing. I have no idea why the appellate judge denied the appeal. The case is to be heard Tuesday. Regardless, both judges made a big mistake that might come back to bite them.

The alien enemies act hinges on us being at war but a good lawyer will make the case that we are under attack and in fact war has been declared by ISIS against us.

And yes, 30 seconds of search turned up more than 50 pages on the presidents power's in this area.

I wonder if being a federal judge qualifies one to flip burgers?

CounterRevolutionary

If it is a matter of technicalities, Congress needs to declare war on ISIS, and the sponsors of terrorism, Iran.

https://warontherocks.com/2017/02/has-china-been-practicing-preemptive-missile-strikes-against-u-s-bases/
War on the rocks
Has China Been Practicing Preemptive Missile Strikes Against U.S. Bases?
Thomas Shugart February 6, 2017

"You’ve probably heard that China’s military has developed a “carrier-killer” ballistic missile to threaten one of America’s premier power-projection tools, its unmatched fleet of aircraft carriers. Or perhaps you’ve read about China’s deployment of its own aircraft carrier to the Taiwan Strait and South China Sea. But heavily defended moving targets like aircraft carriers would be a challenge to hit in open ocean, and were China’s own aircraft carrier (or even two or three like it) to venture into open water in anger, the U.S. submarine force would make short work of it. In reality, the greatest military threat to U.S. vital interests in Asia may be one that has received somewhat less attention: the growing capability of China’s missile forces to strike U.S. bases. This is a time of increasing tension, with China’s news organizations openly threatening war. U.S. leaders and policymakers should understand that a preemptive Chinese missile strike against the forward bases that underpin U.S. military power in the Western Pacific is a very real possibility, particularly if China believes its claimed core strategic interests are threatened in the course of a crisis and perceives that its attempts at deterrence have failed. Such a preemptive strike appears consistent with available information about China’s missile force doctrine, and the satellite imagery shown below points to what may be real-world efforts to practice its execution."

Might we recall that Iran, Pakistan, China and North Korea are part of the "axis of evil" that Bush warned us about? Promotion of the "Axis of evil" is the result of the Clinton/Obama administrations. Trump has every right to strengthen our national security by putting a hold on immigration and visas from those 7 nations sponsoring terrorism, one of them being Iran, China's ally.

For God's sake, read the newspapers and connect the dots!

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

ISIS has openly declared war on us. In my.opinion that satisfies the 1798 Act and I would argue that in court. A declaration of war is not necessarily under the 1952 law which gives Trump all the authority he needs in this matter.

Big dog

I agree. Tomorrow we will see if the 9th circuit court has ANY standing in the U.S. law.

CounterRevolutionary

I hope that the 9th District Circuit Court in California rules as your legal expertise explains. If not, and the case is appealed to the Supreme Court, and this court is spit in its decision, 4/4, then the appeal would revert back to the decision of the 9th Circuit Court. One poster today cited this potential scenario, explaining Congress had the option to dissolve any of the lower courts it felt dysfunctional, and could send the 9th District packing. Apparently, this option has never been exercised by Congress, but it is available under the Constitution.

What do you say?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I say there is no reason to send it to the SCOTUS until after Trump's SCOTUS nominee has been confirmed.

If Trump wins in the 9th and the other side sends it up before Gorsuch is confirned, let it revert back to the 9th. Win--Win.

CounterRevolutionary

9th Circuit Court Refuses to Reinstate Trump's controversial travel ban
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ninth-circuit-travel-ban-2017-story.html

I think we have a lose-lose scenario. What is really going on that the main stream media is not reporting?

Are you aware of the secret State Department deal made on November 13, 2016 with Australia just after the presidential election?
President Obama and SOS John Kerry signed an illegal alien swap with Australia. The United States would trade several thousand Latino illegal aliens for 1,800 un-vetted Middle Eastern boat-people refugees from the Syrian civil war that the Australian navy had interdicted and plunked down on the island of Papua New Guinea. Apparently the boat-people are considered too dangerous to live in Australia but Obama was willing to secretly bring them to the States. This is what has raised grave concern amongst the new Republican administration.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/11/obama-fast-track-1800-muslims-rejected-australia.html/
NATIONAL SECURITY
Obama hastens deal accepting 1.8K rejected Muslims
News Now, November 26, 2016 (thanks to Religion of Peace):

"Fast-tracking the Obama administration’s plan to accept hoards of Islamic migrants from terrorist nations who were turned down by Australia, United States Secretary of State John Kerry worked out a covert deal to bring around 1,800 illegal aliens to the U.S. – ahead of schedule.

Many high-ranking government officials are upset over the secret negotiations that many believe will put American citizens in danger – and be unlawful.

“The chairmen of the House and Senate judiciary committees are demanding the Obama administration provide details of a secret resettlement deal in which the U.S. has agreed to take up to 1,800 mostly Muslim asylum seekers who have been rejected by Australia as illegal aliens,” WND reported. “Congress only learned of the deal through media reports two weeks ago and – according to a letter sent to administration officials by [lawmakers] Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), and Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) – the deal is not only a matter of grave national security concern, but it could be illegal.”

Many of the safety concerns are rooted in the fact that the origins of the rejected Islamic migrants are rooted in the jihadist hotbeds of Iran, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Sudan.

“Nearly 2,500 of them were interdicted off the coast of Australia in 2013, in accordance with that country’s policy of not accepting any of the wave of ‘refugees’ streaming out of the Middle East,” Hohmann pointed out. “Unlike Europe, Australia effectively said ‘no’ to the United Nations’ plan to open up Western democracies for millions of refugees fleeing not only the Syrian civil war, but conflicts in Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan and even countries like Pakistan that are not at war. Germany alone has accepted 1.5 million Muslim refugees and subjected itself to thousands of sexual assaults on its women and girls.”

Australian officials never extended the welcome mat to the Muslim migrants attempting to seek asylum in the Land Down Under.

“They were rescued by the Australian coast guard from their unsafe vessels and taken to off-shore camps on the islands of Papua New Guinea and Nauru, where they have remained ever since,” Hohmann informed.” The United Nations stepped in and is looking for countries that will take the asylum seekers.”

Knowing the Obama administration’s pro-Muslim stance, the U.N. successfully appealed to the U.S. to take in the potentially hostile illegal aliens.

'Kerry confirmed he had reached a deal to take an undetermined number of the 2,465 aliens for permanent resettlement in the United States,' WND announced. 'Goodlatte and Grassley said they have since found out that up to 1,800 of the boat people could end up being distributed to U.S. cities and towns. But very little information has been released about the aliens – or how many will end up in which American cities'”....

The article is very lengthy here, but you get the picture of the Democrat's lying hypocrisy. Obama is allowed to illegally import illegal aliens, but the courts punish Trump for vetting them. More of this saga was mention on the John Batchelor Show out of New York, 77WABC Radio last Wednesday night, 2/8/2017.

CounterRevolutionary

I want to know how the Obama administration could arm the Latino drug cartel FARC in partnership with Columbia and Cuba, arm drug kingpin El Chapo Guzman of Mexico (who has killed over 100,000 Mexicans and US border agents), arm ISIS in Libya to topple Quadaffi (our ally since 9/11), arm the Pashtun Taliban to topple the Afghan government in Kabul (our ally), arm al Qaeda to topple Bashir Assad in Syria, and arm China to destabilize the entire South China Seas (Korea, Japan, the Philippines, India, Australia and New Zealand, our allies) and nobody raise any concerns?

Yet the 9th Circuit Court is accusing President Donald Trump's foreign policy as being "racist and Islamophobic." We are living in a maze of Orwellian doublespeak.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

The 9th Circuit Court have a solid record of being a bunch of bobble headed morons with law degrees . Nothing else.

Big dog

That's a FACT. Either way we know that Trump is well within the law, and if we have to defend our selves and our nation WITHOUT the permission of the courts, well then SO BE IT. Let the revolution begin.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

I understand.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

You have elevated them even by your own comments. lol