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Jan 25, 2017 20:37:11   #
HedgeHog
 
Don't know how many Americans realize there was a peace conference in Astana, Kazakhstan between the legitimate president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, and rebel opposition groups, many of whom seem to me to be affiliated, or perhaps, infiltrated by terrorist groups.

The man representing the opposition factions is Mohammed Alloush, leader of the faction: Jaysh al-Islam, a fundamentalist Islamist and Salafist group. The previous leader of Jaysh al-Islam was Zayran Alloush who had spoken aloud about his desire to install a fundamentalist, Islamist state, on the order perhaps of a Saudi theocracy, in place of the secular state of which Assad is president, wherein all sects and religions had freedom to worship as they please.

I have read that Mohammed Alloush has ties to al-Qaeda, and may owe allegiance to them. Not sure about this.

Wondered what other Americans feel about the Ovomit administration's constant call for Assad to step down. (Besides the fact that it didn't work.)

The things that have been coming out of Syria will curdle your blood.

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Jan 25, 2017 20:57:15   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Don't know how many Americans realize there was a peace conference in Astana, Kazakhstan between the legitimate president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, and rebel opposition groups, many of whom seem to me to be affiliated, or perhaps, infiltrated by terrorist groups.

The man representing the opposition factions is Mohammed Alloush, leader of the faction: Jaysh al-Islam, a fundamentalist Islamist and Salafist group. The previous leader of Jaysh al-Islam was Zayran Alloush who had spoken aloud about his desire to install a fundamentalist, Islamist state, on the order perhaps of a Saudi theocracy, in place of the secular state of which Assad is president, wherein all sects and religions had freedom to worship as they please.

I have read that Mohammed Alloush has ties to al-Qaeda, and may owe allegiance to them. Not sure about this.

Wondered what other Americans feel about the Ovomit administration's constant call for Assad to step down. (Besides the fact that it didn't work.)

The things that have been coming out of Syria will curdle your blood.
Don't know how many Americans realize there was a... (show quote)


Obammy went around bowing like a servant to all the world's leaders.

So none of the world's leaders paid him any respect.

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Jan 25, 2017 21:03:17   #
HedgeHog
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Obammy went around bowing like a servant to all the world's leaders.

So none of the world's leaders paid him any respect.


Wolf, how does that fit in with my post, exactly?

As far as I can see, every world leader, except those of Russia and Iran went right along with Ovomit, as far as his demand that "the bloody tyrant" (THE BIG LIE) Assad step down. News alert! Ovomit's gone, and Assad's still there, thank God.

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Jan 26, 2017 16:48:04   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
HedgeHog wrote:
Wolf, how does that fit in with my post, exactly?

As far as I can see, every world leader, except those of Russia and Iran went right along with Ovomit, as far as his demand that "the bloody tyrant" (THE BIG LIE) Assad step down. News alert! Ovomit's gone, and Assad's still there, thank God.


Obama would and did make threats toward the people of this country and the UK because they were trying to break free of the EU and us because we were trying to go in a different direction as well. He felt intitled to speak down to western countrys but scraped and bowed to the muslim countrys and their rulers the man was and is a traitor to this country.I dont say his country because him and his wife were always saying how ashamed they were of this country so if they dont want claim this country I can guarantee we sure as hell dont want to claim him or her.

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Jan 26, 2017 17:19:31   #
HedgeHog
 
bggamers wrote:
Obama would and did make threats toward the people of this country and the UK because they were trying to break free of the EU and us because we were trying to go in a different direction as well. He felt intitled to speak down to western countrys but scraped and bowed to the muslim countrys and their rulers the man was and is a traitor to this country.I dont say his country because him and his wife were always saying how ashamed they were of this country so if they dont want claim this country I can guarantee we sure as hell dont want to claim him or her.
Obama would and did make threats toward the people... (show quote)


He didn't scrape and bow to Assad or Qaddafi or the Egyptians. Only Iran and the Sauds, and mainly because he was non-confrontational and they could overwhelm him. Other than that, I'm not sure what you are implying.

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Jan 26, 2017 17:30:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
No but his desire to control who runs certain countrys sure hasn't paid off very well has it. So far middle east is a boiling pot thanks to him and hillary by removing people they didnt like has turned these areas into a disaster. I'v wondered who he was getting his orders from??? Perhaps my previous statement was off thats because just thinking of what him and his wife have said and done to this country makes me mad. sorry

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Jan 26, 2017 17:37:08   #
HedgeHog
 
bggamers wrote:
No but his desire to control who runs certain countrys sure hasn't paid off very well has it. So far middle east is a boiling pot thanks to him and hillary by removing people they didnt like has turned these areas into a disaster. I'v wondered who he was getting his orders from??? Perhaps my previous statement was off thats because just thinking of what him and his wife have said and done to this country makes me mad. sorry


gamers, apparently you didn't get the notice: Ovomit and Clinton and others, including maybe Fareed Zakaria, instigated those revolutions in the Near and Middle East, that they wanted the world to look on as an Arab Spring. It was to be the first stage in a "world revolution" which, under the auspices of the "might and power" of the U.S. would become a world Communist government.

We're still working on teasing out the threads of just how the power mongers and seekers are contributing to this new world order: financiers only or are they intent on exercising some kind of control as well.

We live in very dangerous times.

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Jan 26, 2017 17:39:09   #
HedgeHog
 
bggamers wrote:
No but his desire to control who runs certain countrys sure hasn't paid off very well has it. So far middle east is a boiling pot thanks to him and hillary by removing people they didnt like has turned these areas into a disaster. I'v wondered who he was getting his orders from??? Perhaps my previous statement was off thats because just thinking of what him and his wife have said and done to this country makes me mad. sorry


But I'm more interested in what you think of Ovomit and Clinton and Kerry's injunction for Assad to step down. President Assad, the legitimate president of Syria, a good man who was given an impossible job, has shown the whole world his strength and courage in "staying the course", even knowing what Ovomit had done to Qaddafi in Libya.

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Jan 26, 2017 17:46:50   #
HedgeHog
 
I am waiting for people to give credit to Assad and Putin (and myself) for the successes in Syria.

I'm waiting, people.


{That probably should be "Myself"---capital M}.

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Jan 26, 2017 18:05:21   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
HedgeHog wrote:
But I'm more interested in what you think of Ovomit and Clinton and Kerry's injunction for Assad to step down. President Assad, the legitimate president of Syria, a good man who was given an impossible job, has shown the whole world his strength and courage in "staying the course", even knowing what Ovomit had done to Qaddafi in Libya.


I think and I'm not politically smart they should have left well enough alone and as for this Assad if he keeps his problems in his own back yard he might just stay alive.But with Mad dog running things I think he's going to let the muslim world know we are not taking any more. Apparently he's willing and able to blow their asses into the next world.

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Jan 26, 2017 18:07:53   #
HedgeHog
 
Has this hit American MSM yet:

http://www.rt.com/uk/375215-uk-shift-policy-syria/

Nice of you to be accommodating, BoJo.
But as Joan of Arc said to Glacidas (The English Gladstone, in 1429): "You...Glacidas...in the name of the King of Heaven I summon you to depart into England!"

And the siege of Orleans was thereupon lifted!

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Jan 26, 2017 18:15:27   #
HedgeHog
 
bggamers wrote:
I think and I'm not politically smart they should have left well enough alone and as for this Assad if he keeps his problems in his own back yard he might just stay alive.But with Mad dog running things I think he's going to let the muslim world know we are not taking any more. Apparently he's willing and able to blow their asses into the next world.


Who is Mad Dog?

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Jan 26, 2017 18:26:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
HedgeHog wrote:
I am waiting for people to give credit to Assad and Putin (and myself) for the successes in Syria.

I'm waiting, people.


{That probably should be "Myself"---capital M}.


As in Russia taking the lead in attacks or the way BO was trying to make it look good while really not being on board to a show down??

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Jan 26, 2017 18:39:58   #
HedgeHog
 
lindajoy wrote:
As in Russia taking the lead in attacks or the way BO was trying to make it look good while really not being on board to a show down??


I'm talking about the peace conferences, at least preludes to the peace conferences, in Astana. I'm talking about the inroads Assad and Putin (and Myself) have made in little over a year in ending that horrid civil war, that was instigated by the "Nightmare Team" of Ovomit, Clinton and others. Ovomit has insisted for 5 years that Assad must go.

The dirty deeds we are becoming aware of in Syria have been accomplished, not just by The Islamic State of Nowhere, but some rebel opposition factions as well.

Lindajoy, where have you been for the past year and a half?

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Jan 26, 2017 19:16:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
HedgeHog wrote:
I'm talking about the peace conferences, at least preludes to the peace conferences, in Astana. I'm talking about the inroads Assad and Putin (and Myself) have made in little over a year in ending that horrid civil war, that was instigated by the "Nightmare Team" of Ovomit, Clinton and others. Ovomit has insisted for 5 years that Assad must go.

The dirty deeds we are becoming aware of in Syria have been accomplished, not just by The Islamic State of Nowhere, but some rebel opposition factions as well.

Lindajoy, where have you been for the past year and a half?
I'm talking about the peace conferences, at least ... (show quote)


I thought you were talking about the inroads of constant warring going on and who is actually against whom..As well as who is actually instigating what, not excluding the U. S.in that comment..

Now you likely have plenty more Intel on this than the typical lay person...(me)

So, in that regard what is your opinion/position based on what you know...Without divulging anything, of course...

I think he is young and got pulled into his position after his brother and father passed and has been involved in a heck of a lot in the short time he has actually been president along with some controversy over the last election...Along with what really caused the Civil War in Syria..

I also have very mixed feelings about the allegation of war crimes levied, but I also do not know enough about all that to say positively and what I do think will remain private..

I will tell you that I do believe back 10~13 yrs ago Syria harbored terrorist and weapons of mass destruction and having done so then believe they did continue to do so..As well as assisting Iraq...

As of right now, doubtful American tanks will probably not be rolling down the streets of Damascus or any place else...

Am I optimistic about the peace negotiations, I'll only say nothing is etched in stone over there or lasts very long.... Geneva peace talks on Syria, of course good but will it be honored??

How do you see it all going down??

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