How about the ACA: Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the Affordable Care Act the moment they had the chance. It would be the first order of business in 2017, Republican leaders vowed.

There was every reason to believe the GOP would keep this promise – that is, until very recently. The Huffington Post published a helpful report last night of how quickly the Republican approach is unraveling.
Anxiety about repealing Obamacare without a replacement got a lot more visible in the U.S. Senate on Monday evening, as a half-dozen Republican senators called publicly for slowing down the process.

[A]t least three other GOP senators have now expressed reservations about eliminating the Affordable Care Act without first settling on an alternative. That brings the total to nine – well more than the three defections it would take to deprive Republicans of the majority they would likely need to get repeal through Congress.
To quickly recap, the GOP strategy since the elections is built around a clumsy idea called “repeal and delay.” Roughly speaking, the gambit involves Republican lawmakers using their majority status to quickly pass legislation that repeals the Affordable Care Act, while also leaving the law – or at least most of it – intact for years while Republicans work on their alternative.

The original GOP idea, of course, was “repeal and replace,” but that fell out of favor when it dawned on Republicans that replacing an effective reform system is extremely difficult, and they had no idea how to achieve their goals.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and other party leaders want to move forward on “repeal and delay” anyway, but they’re running into an arithmetic problem: too many Republicans are skeptical of their own party’s plan. Ryan and McConnell just don’t have the votes.

What’s more, let’s not forget that if GOP lawmakers decide they’ll wait to repeal “Obamacare” until they’ve completed work on their own health care alternative, they may never repeal the ACA. Republicans like to boast that they can put together a superior plan that Americans will love, but they’ve been working on a health care plan for about seven years now, and so far, they’ve produced nothing.

EL Loc: Massachusetts

permafrost wrote:

Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the Affordable Care Act the moment they had the chance. It would be the first order of business in 2017, Republican leaders vowed.

There was every reason to believe the GOP would keep this promise – that is, until very recently. The Huffington Post published a helpful report last night of how quickly the Republican approach is unraveling.
Anxiety about repealing Obamacare without a replacement got a lot more visible in the U.S. Senate on Monday evening, as a half-dozen Republican senators called publicly for slowing down the process.

[A]t least three other GOP senators have now expressed reservations about eliminating the Affordable Care Act without first settling on an alternative. That brings the total to nine – well more than the three defections it would take to deprive Republicans of the majority they would likely need to get repeal through Congress.
To quickly recap, the GOP strategy since the elections is built around a clumsy idea called “repeal and delay.” Roughly speaking, the gambit involves Republican lawmakers using their majority status to quickly pass legislation that repeals the Affordable Care Act, while also leaving the law – or at least most of it – intact for years while Republicans work on their alternative.

The original GOP idea, of course, was “repeal and replace,” but that fell out of favor when it dawned on Republicans that replacing an effective reform system is extremely difficult, and they had no idea how to achieve their goals.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and other party leaders want to move forward on “repeal and delay” anyway, but they’re running into an arithmetic problem: too many Republicans are skeptical of their own party’s plan. Ryan and McConnell just don’t have the votes.

What’s more, let’s not forget that if GOP lawmakers decide they’ll wait to repeal “Obamacare” until they’ve completed work on their own health care alternative, they may never repeal the ACA. Republicans like to boast that they can put together a superior plan that Americans will love, but they’ve been working on a health care plan for about seven years now, and so far, they’ve produced nothing.

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The government shouldn't be involved in healthcare at all. First of all, everything through the government is too expensive and secondly, everyone's taxes also go up to support whatever agency runs it. I wish they'd get back to what government is supposed to be.

F.D.R.

From the peanut gallery: You're opinion please. I would suggest forming 6 committees who will meet independently for 1 week to form proposals on what they could contribute to a workable healthcare plan. Doctors, Nurses, Drug Companies, Hospitals, Insurers and a mixed group of Citizens. At the end of the week a representative from each group will meet to exchange idea's and try to find guidelines that everyone can live with nationwide. Insurer's must allow individual insured's to tailor their policy to their needs. Those groups exempted from ACA must participate in one of the available plans. Illegals showing up at doctors or hospitals for treatment either pay or it's at the expense of the treatment source. This cost may not be passed on. Pregnant illegals should be put on a plane and sent home. ANYTHING ELSE?

Rivers

permafrost wrote:

Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the Affordable Care Act the moment they had the chance. It would be the first order of business in 2017, Republican leaders vowed.

There was every reason to believe the GOP would keep this promise – that is, until very recently. The Huffington Post published a helpful report last night of how quickly the Republican approach is unraveling.
Anxiety about repealing Obamacare without a replacement got a lot more visible in the U.S. Senate on Monday evening, as a half-dozen Republican senators called publicly for slowing down the process.

[A]t least three other GOP senators have now expressed reservations about eliminating the Affordable Care Act without first settling on an alternative. That brings the total to nine – well more than the three defections it would take to deprive Republicans of the majority they would likely need to get repeal through Congress.
To quickly recap, the GOP strategy since the elections is built around a clumsy idea called “repeal and delay.” Roughly speaking, the gambit involves Republican lawmakers using their majority status to quickly pass legislation that repeals the Affordable Care Act, while also leaving the law – or at least most of it – intact for years while Republicans work on their alternative.

The original GOP idea, of course, was “repeal and replace,” but that fell out of favor when it dawned on Republicans that replacing an effective reform system is extremely difficult, and they had no idea how to achieve their goals.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and other party leaders want to move forward on “repeal and delay” anyway, but they’re running into an arithmetic problem: too many Republicans are skeptical of their own party’s plan. Ryan and McConnell just don’t have the votes.

What’s more, let’s not forget that if GOP lawmakers decide they’ll wait to repeal “Obamacare” until they’ve completed work on their own health care alternative, they may never repeal the ACA. Republicans like to boast that they can put together a superior plan that Americans will love, but they’ve been working on a health care plan for about seven years now, and so far, they’ve produced nothing.

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Your worthless leftist opinion means jack shit!

reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.

permafrost wrote:

Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the Affordable Care Act the moment they had the chance. It would be the first order of business in 2017, Republican leaders vowed.

There was every reason to believe the GOP would keep this promise – that is, until very recently. The Huffington Post published a helpful report last night of how quickly the Republican approach is unraveling.
Anxiety about repealing Obamacare without a replacement got a lot more visible in the U.S. Senate on Monday evening, as a half-dozen Republican senators called publicly for slowing down the process.

[A]t least three other GOP senators have now expressed reservations about eliminating the Affordable Care Act without first settling on an alternative. That brings the total to nine – well more than the three defections it would take to deprive Republicans of the majority they would likely need to get repeal through Congress.
To quickly recap, the GOP strategy since the elections is built around a clumsy idea called “repeal and delay.” Roughly speaking, the gambit involves Republican lawmakers using their majority status to quickly pass legislation that repeals the Affordable Care Act, while also leaving the law – or at least most of it – intact for years while Republicans work on their alternative.

The original GOP idea, of course, was “repeal and replace,” but that fell out of favor when it dawned on Republicans that replacing an effective reform system is extremely difficult, and they had no idea how to achieve their goals.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and other party leaders want to move forward on “repeal and delay” anyway, but they’re running into an arithmetic problem: too many Republicans are skeptical of their own party’s plan. Ryan and McConnell just don’t have the votes.

What’s more, let’s not forget that if GOP lawmakers decide they’ll wait to repeal “Obamacare” until they’ve completed work on their own health care alternative, they may never repeal the ACA. Republicans like to boast that they can put together a superior plan that Americans will love, but they’ve been working on a health care plan for about seven years now, and so far, they’ve produced nothing.

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Don't worry , you will soon be free of the unconstitutional mandate and your health care will become more affordable unlike the 2700 pages of regulations desined to seperate you from your pocket book and grow the govrenment control of your freedom . You're posing a question that calls for speculation , kinda like how many eggs will hatch , perhaps you should restrict your thought process to something you can handle like how many eggs are in a dozen .. I'll send you a calculator if needed .

archie bunker Loc: Texas

permafrost wrote:

Two months ago, when Republicans enjoyed a successful Election Day, one thing seemed obvious: GOP officials would use their dominant position to repeal the Affordable Care Act the moment they had the chance. It would be the first order of business in 2017, Republican leaders vowed.

There was every reason to believe the GOP would keep this promise – that is, until very recently. The Huffington Post published a helpful report last night of how quickly the Republican approach is unraveling.
Anxiety about repealing Obamacare without a replacement got a lot more visible in the U.S. Senate on Monday evening, as a half-dozen Republican senators called publicly for slowing down the process.

[A]t least three other GOP senators have now expressed reservations about eliminating the Affordable Care Act without first settling on an alternative. That brings the total to nine – well more than the three defections it would take to deprive Republicans of the majority they would likely need to get repeal through Congress.
To quickly recap, the GOP strategy since the elections is built around a clumsy idea called “repeal and delay.” Roughly speaking, the gambit involves Republican lawmakers using their majority status to quickly pass legislation that repeals the Affordable Care Act, while also leaving the law – or at least most of it – intact for years while Republicans work on their alternative.

The original GOP idea, of course, was “repeal and replace,” but that fell out of favor when it dawned on Republicans that replacing an effective reform system is extremely difficult, and they had no idea how to achieve their goals.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), and other party leaders want to move forward on “repeal and delay” anyway, but they’re running into an arithmetic problem: too many Republicans are skeptical of their own party’s plan. Ryan and McConnell just don’t have the votes.

What’s more, let’s not forget that if GOP lawmakers decide they’ll wait to repeal “Obamacare” until they’ve completed work on their own health care alternative, they may never repeal the ACA. Republicans like to boast that they can put together a superior plan that Americans will love, but they’ve been working on a health care plan for about seven years now, and so far, they’ve produced nothing.

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Effective reform system? You mean, like using the power of the government to force person A to provide for person B? Sorry, I'm still in the A group, and I don't think the government should force me to provide for the B group. Feels kind of like slavery to me.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

archie bunker wrote:

Effective reform system? You mean, like using the power of the government to force person A to provide for person B? Sorry, I'm still in the A group, and I don't think the government should force me to provide for the B group. Feels kind of like slavery to me.

Archie, while I do feel sort of that way..

I have to remind myself that group B also gets to pay for the same stuff as group A...

Whatever the Republicans come up with, I bet that any reduction in price will be very short lived if we see it at all...

And yes, I have always seen the insurance companies as the enemy.. but for that record, I should have a look at my SS statement laying around someplace.. Bet my Medicare bill has gone up, as well as my personal insurance so I am indeed bitching about the cost..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

reconreb wrote:

Don't worry , you will soon be free of the unconstitutional mandate and your health care will become more affordable unlike the 2700 pages of regulations desined to seperate you from your pocket book and grow the govrenment control of your freedom . You're posing a question that calls for speculation , kinda like how many eggs will hatch , perhaps you should restrict your thought process to something you can handle like how many eggs are in a dozen .. I'll send you a calculator if needed .

recon,

Part of what I posted to archie should have gone to you.... sorry about that...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

permafrost wrote:

Archie, while I do feel sort of that way.. br br... (show quote)

Actually, no Permi. Group B is subsidized by the Fed. Government for their plans, and pay much less than group A who make too much money to qualify for the subsidies. That is what I think this was built on. Group A paying for group B.
Otherwise, why would a man be required to pay for coverage for mammograms, pap smears, pre-natal care, maternity care, etc.?

When I had this awesome coverage, I demanded a pap smear, and was refused. So, then I demanded my free birth control, and was refused because I had a vasectomy 18 years ago. So then, I wanted a mammogram. (Men have boobs) That was refused too in spite of the fact that I was willing to put out the 55.00 co-pay for all of these services that I'm insured for.
We have no insurance now because we can't afford this garbage. 7200.00 deductibles? That should be for young people with catastrophic policies.

In spite of my smartassedness, this was designed to make person A pay for person B. It's obvious.