Kumquat, provide the proof Russia did not hack us. You and Trump must be privy to info no else has in this world. Show it! As foolish as it was to say the Russians did it, to say the didn't without proof is equally foolish. And very, very strange.

I too quickly jumped on the bandwagon of Russian hacking, simply trusting our Intelligence agencies. When no hard evidence materialized, I apologized for that unwarranted leap. Now, supposedly, evidence of that hacking has been unclassified. There appears to be proof.

You are getting very tiring with your lack of intellectual integrity. To address this usual tidbit of sophistry offered by the Right without anywhere else to go, being without facts or support: "For someone who didn't support Hillary, you are awfully upset about her loss." Please show a shred of evidence for this lie.


Do you know what the words "topic" or "subject" mean? It is conversation or comments directed in a forum to what is under discussion. Tangential posts are not necessarily out of order and can add needed insight and depth, but to condemn the topic or subject because tangential material was not presented is absurd and, again, typical Right deflection. Focus, fool. There are at least a few thousand points that could relate to this thread. Space and attention is limited. I am talking to my aunt Lilian about her sister Marion: she is the subject/topic. You interrupt to ask "What about Uncle Alfred? And Hitler? And the 1929 Stock Market crash?" Absurd!

"You never broke wind orally to complain about the 13 times that Obama executive orders were overturned by SCOTUS." Irrelevant and ridiculous but I did specifically, in these comments, say that I disagreed with a number of Obama's executive orders. Give this embarrassing attempt at deflection away. What you appear to be saying is patently absurd. One who has done wrong is excused from wrong-doing because someone has done the same or worse. "Yeah, look at Obama..." So we do not look at Trump?

Once more, I will try and explain this in Very.Simple. Terms. That. You. Can. Understand. I never said, you liar, that the Russians did NOT do it. I said there was no proof that they did. There still is not, in spite of your claim that there appears to be.

You have no room to speak of intellectual integrity; you with your bullshit talk of "sedition" for the crime of disagreeing with your silly assed ideas, and your lemming like acceptance of anything and everything that Obama has done. You could write a book on misdirection except that you would get lost.
Do not speak of my lack of intellectual integrity. I may begin pointing out the myriad examples of your own. Would you like me to also include those examples offered in your other existence as Rumitoid?

Lol go fuck yourself idiot. I cannot believe I once thought you were one of a very few reasonable voices on the Right. It was noteth kingeth Obama that created the report but our Intelligence agencies. Also, the false assumption I support Obama, like you falsely did with Hillary: I do not. I am appalled at his drone warfare and against many of his executive orders. But you guys cannot help but lump all different thinking people into the minions of Satan or something. Yes, there was egregious wrong-doing on the part of Hillary and the Clinton foundation, or at least that is now strongly suggested. So? Your false premise is pretty much like "if you did not dress so Provocatively, you would not have been raped." She did wrong so it is okay for Russia to attack our elections?
No one is talking about hacking "voting machines," an absurd deflection and really petty. But this is the Right's fodder: misdirection. Like holding a snowball conclusively disproves the possibility of global warming. This is how you guys think. And all sing Halleluia! Maddening!

Again, numbnutz, Hillary is not and never has been my "golden girl." More of Right Wing bullshit: lump them all into one, ugly, commie, unthinking slaves for the One World Order. I take you as you present yourself, not by labels or pre-suppositions. Only what you say is addressed and nothing presumed. And what you say is very disappointing.

I did not vote for Obama or Hillary. I do not care for either one. To make a case against what I say by not addressing what I say but rather by guilt of association, where there is none, is very sad.

I am not above feeling self-righteous; it is a constant problem talking with people like you. It is a fight I lose occasionally. Become a jerk. You noted once where I apologized for that, about the hacking, but there are more. I detest more than anything being labeled, as you did. I got very pissed. I un-fuck yourself officially.

Once more, I will try and explain this in Very.Simple. Terms. That. You. Can. Understand. I never said, you liar, that the Russians did NOT do it. I said there was no proof that they did. There still is not, in spite of your claim that there appears to be.

You have no room to speak of intellectual integrity; you with your bullshit talk of "sedition" for the crime of disagreeing with your silly assed ideas, and your lemming like acceptance of anything and everything that Obama has done. You could write a book on misdirection except that you would get lost.
Do not speak of my lack of intellectual integrity. I may begin pointing out the myriad examples of your own. Would you like me to also include those examples offered in your other existence as Rumitoid?

This is so ridiculous. Fine! Match apples and oranges. Both fruits so they are the same. Where the hell is your logic? Obama was terrible so give Russia a pass? It is very hard to respond to the poverty of your thinking on this. New unclassified documents point to Russia.
Why this resistance to the possibility?
Why such stupid sarcasm as "Those mean old Russians" without a shred of evidence showing their innocence?
How do you know how much or not the hacking influenced the election? Polling numbers? Personal interviews?
You pathetic creatures cannot think of anything else than this is all a plot to undermine the extremely minor victory of Trump. Butt-hurt? That's as deep as your thinking goes.
What if Russia did the hacking? Rather than hold them accountable for this attack on our country, you would rather indict America for "our dirty tricks"?
What is this love obsession with Russia?

Let me get the gist of what your are saying (trying to ignore your emblem of ignorance and hate). The Democrats never used the "the Russian hack story in an attempt to damage the nascent Trump presidency." They never accused Trump or the Republicans either.

A question: if the government came to you and asked to scour your computer for possible breaches, honestly, would you say "Fell free"? I have no idea whether your representation of what happened with the DNC and FBI happened or happened as you said; a source would have been good here.

There are so many gaping holes in your arguments it is hard to know which to address next. Let's start here: "Was the report commissioned purely for campaign purposes? Was the report done independent of DNC input, or did members of the party and the campaign direct Crowdstrike toward the Russians?" Bizarre thought: send a probably damaging Crowdstrike report to the Russians.

No, not going to satisfy this blindness any longer; your whole post is as ridiculous as almost all I have read so far. If you had the eyes to see what you said, in effect, is the rapist defense: "if she was wearing such provocative clothes..." Russia is free to interfere with our democratic process and tilt the scales for Trump because Hillary a "nastywoman"?

Dr.Ross, I agree with you. Listening to the news this morning, I noticed that after meeting with the leaders of our intelligence community, Trump praised it, but still refuses to put the blame where it belongs, ON PUTIN. With Trump, it's all about the Donald, and the nations national security comes second. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I have no idea why so many Americans voted for Trump. The only thing he has ever said that has a degree of truth is that he could shoot people on 5th Av. and nobody would say anything bad about him. I agree with Sen. Graham, it's time to throw rocks, not pebbles! I never thought I would ever agree with the senior Senator from South Carolina, but I do now.
I would place a division of troops right on the Ukrainian- Russian border and other sensitive spots . I would also put more economic sanctions on Russia and revive Radio Free Europe to give the Russian people a more truthful and realistic viewpoint of our country, and policies. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gives Putin the Medal of Freedom!