padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

There is a difference between being a Russia lover and cautious of their leadership. Do you hate the Russian people? Where Russia is more intelligent than you Marxist Progressives here in America is found in that which Putin chided Obama about communism. Basically he said, "You idiot! We tried Communism and it didn't work." He saw more clearly than you Progressives where Obama was leading you.....not me or those who elected Trump.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Between your and my dozens of quotes from our founding fathers, demonstrating the opposition they had from the post of this dip stick "infringement ".
He continues with his diatribe and yet ignores our empirical evidence proving his failed ideologies /thinking.

Typical leftist deflection, troll/Rhumatoid

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Thank God.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

I don't know about you but I feel like Dancing.

Free at last . Dang this feels pretty dern good !

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

So...you're a propagandist. Ta ta!

Smokie

You sound like an educated, ignorant left loon.
You need to refer to the writings of the Founding Fathers and then you should have a clear understanding of their intent of the 2nd!

Smokie

Right, the 2nd does not GIVE us the right. We ALREADY HAVE IT!
The 2nd PROTECTS the right we ALREADY HAVE!

Smokie

[quote=jack sequim wa]PROVE ME WRONG LEFTIST / LIBERAL! !!!!
Your the kind of putz that will go and hide upon empirical evidence, right?Who knows better what the Second Amendment means than the Founding Fathers? Here are some powerful gun quotations from the Founding Fathers themselves.
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823
"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788
"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787
"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789
"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803


Do I need to give more quotes? I can no problem, proving your failed efforts of continously searching the Web, for anything to prove your false narratives.[/quote]

Thanks for taking the time to post what my lazy butt didn't!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Smokie, I'm going to add a tag to your excellent post. You progressives may now sit down and shut up.

missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore

I've copied it to word . Wish I had this years ago.
Very well done.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Little good it did. Typically leftist refused to acknowledge, and continued on with his diatribe.
I'm actually surprised he didn’t ask me to prove they were the founding fathers quotes, as a deflection.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Because you dip sticks cling to the trio......socialist /marxist /communist ideologies and political policies. Putz

straightUp Loc: California

I never said the 2nd Amendment implies unrestricted gun possession.


I never suggested that universal background checks and gun registration was the solution either.

So, do you ever make an effort to actually understand what a person is saying or are you just looking for any excuse to make stupid statements?


As if you have the slightest understanding of what my opinion are. I suppose I could dumb things down so you can understand them better, but you would still have to make an effort to read the words.

straightUp Loc: California

"Loki", "Mike" one useful idiot looks like another to me. I'm sure he got the message.


Only if you're the one providing the space. That's what liberals do... they work hard and provide for others less fortunate. Being a conservative who whines and cries every time someone says you should provide for someone else, you probably wouldn't understand that. Too busy focusing on who's getting free stuff.

Loki Loc: Georgia

"Loki", "Mike" one useful idiot looks like another to me. I'm sure he got the message"

Too bad you haven't. So one useful idiot looks like another to you? I suppose as a useless idiot, you have a unique profile. The only time a Liberal provides for someone less fortunate is when he or she can do it with someone else's money.

There is no "free stuff," slick. Somewhere, some way, someone is footing the bill.