Another Reason To Thank The Founders
Dec 19, 2016 09:20:42 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
"In recent years, California has been turning... (show quote)
This article makes it all perfectly clear. The problem is...a liberals favorite color is clear, in which it makes it hard for them to see things clearly.
Dec 19, 2016 10:20:57 #
archie bunker wrote:
You want to go by population. Does rural America have no say?
You're not understanding, if you want the electoral college vote, which gives vote credits by population it should be straight forward. Just as I had stated, which is similar to state property taxes and every state should do it the same way. One rule book for all.Why should Florida and Texas have more electoral clout? Answer that for me. A more fair base would have every ones vote count. Should a few rural populations carry any more weight, and leaving millions of peoples votes unaccounted for. My point, everyone should their votes as equal weight.
Dec 19, 2016 11:08:18 #
Dec 19, 2016 11:13:02 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Look, this is not rocket science. Why do so many ... (show quote)
quote=Larry the Legend]Look, this is not rocket science. Why do so many people have trouble understanding this? The system is set up so that each State, regardless of overall population, has an effect on the outcome. This, by the way, is a good thing. It means that even the smallest States (such as Maine and Alaska) are not drowned out by the larger States (such as California and Texas).
Even with the electoral college, winning just 4 States; California, Texas, New York and Florida, is sufficient to send a candidate more than halfway to the winning goal of 272 electoral votes (151 votes in just those 4 States). That, I think, is plenty enough clout. Also, it only takes 12 States to elect a president, less than 1/4 of the total number of States.
This statement is contrary to you first paragraph. "Plenty of enough clout" it's way to much clout, which was my point and you just solidified.
If it bothers you that we have an electoral college to select our executive officers (President and Vice President), be glad I wasn't there at the 1787 constitutional convention. If I was there, we would have a single electoral vote per State, regardless of population. And yes, I really do believe in democracy, just not that 'majority rule' kind that says 51% get to make the rules for the other 49%. That is what we generally call 'tyranny'.
do you realize the true intention of the electoral college, or our founding fathers, as you know was to be a republic voting system, but do you realize they wanted our votes to be represented by our"betters" which were our elected representatives. When they created the electoral college it was to try and avoid an imbalance which could have been created by the "representatives" party control. This is the tyranny they feared.
This also means the the electoral college vote is nothing what it was originally created for.What bothers me is not the electoral college vote but that it is not fairly representative of the people.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/how-does-the-electoral-college-work.html?_r=0[/quote]
Dec 19, 2016 11:25:20 #
Larry the Legend wrote:
Here's how it currently stands. Interesting to note that the migration of electoral college votes also indicates the migration of actual people:
When the census is taken they do not ask if one is an illegal or a legal resident of these United States. That does not make sense to me. Illegals should never be counted to determine the legal residents of a state. Only legal residents should have a say about the elections. That is our right, not a right of an illegal, to determine the path of this country.
Dec 19, 2016 11:33:32 #
kenjay wrote:
Here is the map Archie.
When people accept corruption when it benefits themselves, it only continues the decay.
We "all" have to be able to trust our voting process.
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